Kidney Mafia (Game Over)

[Arcade Pals]

I chose to include PV in the story because he played an integral part in the pressure dynamics in that conversation.

Go on - I want to hear about PV's intergral part in the pressure dynamics in that conversation.

[Arcade Pals]

Can we just get this shit day over with?

It's been 4 real life days

maybe mafia is not the game for you, you said this last game.

[Arcade Pals]

Then why can't you compromise it? Someone's going to have to give and it's likely not lycan and it's likely not Gerry.

We weren't even the lead wagon and you're trying to "compromise" on us by jumping off the lead wagon

[Arcade Pals]

This isn't hard - we don't get lynched until at least day 3 so we can use our actions

[Transcend]

14 day deadlines are shit.

i prefer 3-7 day ones.

12 hour ones are too fast.

[Zachstralkita]

RB WOULD IN FACT CROSS THE LINE AND IT HAS NO FUCKING BEARING ON HIS ALIGNMENT

yeah it does? If you think he still can be scum you're fine with rb being a blacklist player.

[Narna]

The post you quoted says that...

[Zachstralkita]

The no bearing on alignment thing means nothing.

Want me on the lynch? If it greens we mandate people stop saying that shit in games and using it to lynch people.

[Narna]

you 100% don't see frustrated scum being sr for reasons he disagrees with there?

[Zachstralkita]

His overreaction to the wagon was jumping at shadows to the third degree and likely a misinterpretation . He claimed the wagon on him was meta when to that point he had done nothing in the game besides say I scumclaimed then push my Miller claim only to let that fade into obscurity with the only progression being that he townreads me later. That's why I and people should have been voting him. His reaction says he believed he was doing nothing wrong and he was being attacked for meta, then goes "I didn't want to be toxic" "bes toxic excessively" and kraska played into it. I think if rb rolled red he can fuck off. Except I don't think he rolled red and I think he'd have fun playing again after a hiatus. I hope I'm not wrong.

Posing arguments that the player in question is just scum or the action is merely NaI is lazy and false. These arguments rely on people being able to judge character when most people can't.




But Lycan has created a false dilemma anyway so it doesn't matter.


Why are we talking about "evidence" of multi ball, by the way? Speculation only hurts if we're acting on assumptions about the setup. Otherwise scum gain no info from town discussion.

[Zachstralkita]

if rb!scum was frustrated he was getting voted for the ISO he had in this game, he can fuck himself, but the infinitely more likely option is that the slot is town.

[Gorkington]

youre acting like he couldnt be angry about the situation as scum
and that him and kraska dont have history outside the game that fuelled that interaction.

youre also simultaneously telling us we cant judge his character while judging his character.
:v

[Gorkington]

like, in no way do i think rb thought "i will deter this wagon on me by bringing it to a level of personal insults"
i think he was probably just expressing how angry he was at what he thought was a garbage push on him for all of the wrong reasons.

like, i wouldnt confidently say "oh his anger was SCUM MOTIVATED" but it seems pretty weak to ignore the possibility of someone getting that angry as scum.

[Gorkington]

Carcalilly (7)- grapes, Bins, Zachstralkita, hebichan, Spiffeh, Game Replacement, Gorkington

i dont really get why this wagon comp is bad other than gamereplacement being on it.

[Zachstralkita]

youre acting like he couldnt be angry about the situation as scum
and that him and kraska dont have history outside the game that fuelled that interaction.

youre also simultaneously telling us we cant judge his character while judging his character.
:v

Cause I think I'm able to do so. But I'm happy with finding out humans are even worse than I thought and also there's a decent chance I'll get to spite people pending this flip, which is always great. What's the count?

VOTE: Game Replacement







What bothers me more is that If Arcade Pals is red and I let them live because I actually tried to evaluate this game and fell for that stupid AtE shit then towned them even though they were my most confident scumread at one point, I should probably stop playing.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm pretty sure Lycanfire is a scumlean of mine though.

[Gorkington]

if youre confident that the slot is town, then the content before him being angry/vedith's content should be easy to defend?

[Narna]

rb is not a bad guy regardless of alignment here. It's just a game.

[Gorkington]

or i guess thats actually kind of lame.
partially just want something to pick at that isnt making me uncomfortable.
q.q

[Zachstralkita]

Game Replacement/Vedith is rather obv town when he channels it, but a lot of people can't discern it cause his posts


The content rb posted before the meltdown was what actually made him scummy. Then the meltdown happened lol and I said I see a lot of TvTs on this site... this might be one of them

[Narna]

It might not be tvt. Especially woth him being scummy beforehand. Vedith isn't channeling it here.

[Gorkington]

the more i sit with carca, the more i just dont really understand how she could immediately go from scumreading narna, to sheeping townNarna, to scumleaning narna again.
and the really trolly feel of her subsequent posts doesnt really feel like.. she actually feels as bad about it as she says she does?

i really dont think this is a bad vote.

[Zachstralkita]

The first 20 pages indicate to me that gonk manipulated Zach into claiming. It looks like he used Arcade, either intentionally or unwittingly, to help him leverage Zach. Therefore, I'd rather lynch gonk, but I'm ok on Arcade.

I chose to include PV in the story because he played an integral part in the pressure dynamics in that conversation.

Several of the players in this game are treating this like chat-room mafia, and I am unable to process this much text in depth. Likewise, I am not able to chime in on every topic or react to every development in real time. I have notes on everyone whose posts I have read so far, and I am currently reading several people carefully. When I have another confident lead, I will share that.

This post is either a hard scum claim or a hard town claim.


You have to be reading the game a certain way to even come to the conclusion that I was being "manipulated" into claiming by any stretch. It's information we can't discern without further information and suggesting a lynch/vig here day 1 is lazy.

the more i sit with carca, the more i just dont really understand how she could immediately go from scumreading narna, to sheeping townNarna, to scumleaning narna again.
and the really trolly feel of her subsequent posts doesnt really feel like.. she actually feels as bad about it as she says she does?

i really dont think this is a bad vote.

carcalmao is also a good lynch.

[Gorkington]

if youre townreading gr
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you could vote her
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and we could wagon her to murdertown instead

[Narna]

Carc explain your read progression on me without being cute.