Newbie 1815: Prisons [Endgame]

[osuka]

oh for fuck's sake, jae unvoted mwap. fuck me, i guess. let's add fuel to the fire!

my purpose on the wagon wasn't to lynch the kid. In fact, I don't wanna lynch anyone this early in the day - i don't think a lynch with almost 8 days on the deadline is warranted at all short of a shitty scum crumb (which i've seen). I got the feel that it was a bully wagon and that's why i hopped on; it can be very effective, especially with newbies (see what it did to tatters?)

the problem i have with mwap should be obvious to anyone who reads his iso. he provides no tangible content - his posts are all super hazy and so infrequent that it looks like he's prodging

I agree with whoever it is likes icibalus' slot for scum (i think it's yakko + ciara) but I'd love to wait for some actual content from his replacement before anything is done there

paul reads town, jae i'm a bit more skeptical of because they're

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nice and don't seem to really wanna push on anyone. still a townlean because of the content of the posts however, but i'll mark it with a star

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 10 Man With a Plan - 2 ( osuka, NotTheRealPaul ) L- 3 Madtatters ------ 1 ( Icibalus ) L- 4 Icibalus -------- 1 ( DoctorPepper ) L- 4 osuka ----------- 1 ( Madtatters ) L- 4 DoctorPepper ---- 1 ( JaeReed ) L- 4 Not Voting ------ 3 ( Ciara24, Man With A Plan, hi im yakko ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-08-17 16:47:00)

FOS COUNT 1 . 10 NotTheRealPaul - 2 ( osuka, NotTheRealPaul ) Osuka ---------- 1 ( DoctorPepper ) Not FoS'ing ---- 6 ( hi im yakko, JaeReed, Madtatters, Man With A Plan, Icibalus, Ciara24 ) With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-08-17 16:47:00)

[NotTheRealPaul]

more votes on mwap. looks like best wagon rn. i dont mind going for dp either.

7 days left should probably start consolidating for wagon so we have time to switch in case something happens and lynch isnt deadline

[Ciara24]

Would prefer to wait for icibalus replacement before we start consolidating a wagon, I still like his slot for lynching but if a replacement isn't found in the next day or two then all aboard the MWAP train

[osuka]

what's the deal with dp? I don't get it

he's kinda weird kinda nullscum kinda thing to me right now but I don't understand why people want to lynch him so bad. I wouldn't be opposed to a d2 but at this point I'm not pressed about it, though that could change very quickly given how little content he's posted so far and how most of it strikes me

[NotTheRealPaul]

aame but ici slot is a lot more scummy.

rn id go mwap > ici slot > dp

as far as priority that is.

[Alisae]

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[NotTheRealPaul]

aphix are u scum?

[osuka]

nice, warm welcome from ntrp

welcome to the game aphix, thanks for subbing in

[aphix]

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aphix are u scum?

Well, this is probably town.

Jae is scum. Most likely with madtatters.

Yakko isn't necessarily off the hook for claiming BP without CC. If I was PR, I wouldn't counterclaim that at all. But less likely to be scum as he's not scum with Jae. As a scum partner, jumping onto the claim BP plan here would be super crazy.

I don't think the get BP to claim is a scum tactic by Jae, in fact it's not alignment indicative at all, so those who are giving him TC for it are wrong. It looks like it could help, and he has very nice helpful IC posts and I think you are combing those into a town read. Though I don't really see any good it does. I mean, if scum claim BP, BP counterclaims ... Cool, that's fine, but just because there isn't a CC doesn't mean anything, just means there isn't a BP and most likely not a cop. Rather that is happening or not here, no way to know unless you are scum. I don't really see this whole thing helping much, seems futile. Doesn't really give us much.

Anyways, going madtatters whole whining about why it was scum for him to do something but from his view point someone else is doing the same thing so it should be okay for him to do it, and his discussion afterward didn't come from confused town. It was newbscum. I mean, the why is me confusion can come from new town players, but the AtE was not real. Combined with the whole, "I don't know why people want to lynch MWAP" in 214 is a super weird distancing from the wagon. It's not the usual distrust I'd see in a newer town player.


I don't see a lynch happening on Jae today, so ... I guess I'm putting my vote back.

VOTE: madtatters

[aphix]

DP: Why do you say you aren't down for a townblock ... but then go ahead and decide to go with the crowd regarding NTRP?

[DoctorPepper]

DP: Why do you say you aren't down for a townblock ... but then go ahead and decide to go with the crowd regarding NTRP?

2 unrelated things. Town blocs are where you collectively decided by assuming everyone in your Bloc is town. Me not being sure of NTRP is me wondering if I'm not seeing something everyone else is.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Where do u see jae and tatters as scum together? I dont get that too much.

DP i'm with u on townblocs. i think theyre bad and can be the downfall of town when theyre not mod-confirmed town blocs like some sorta mason stuff/cop invests or something.

[Ciara24]

@ Aphix what do you think of MWAP weird, vague and without content posts?

[aphix]

DP: Why do you say you aren't down for a townblock ... but then go ahead and decide to go with the crowd regarding NTRP?

2 unrelated things. Town blocs are where you collectively decided by assuming everyone in your Bloc is town. Me not being sure of NTRP is me wondering if I'm not seeing something everyone else is.

So you think because enough people read NTRP as town that you should also read him as town, but not because you think the people reading NTRP as town are town, but because there are enough of them? You might not be seeing something someone else is seeing but you aren't asking questions regarding it? No need to interact and try to figure it out just lay down and accept the masses thoughts?

Where do u see jae and tatters as scum together? I dont get that too much.

Because it looks to me like he very cleverly single-handedly derailed the tatters wagon. And the people that he's been calling town just jumped off the wagon with him.

@ Aphix what do you think of MWAP weird, vague and without content posts?

I agree they don't have content. Which isn't good but I don't see anything alignment indicative in them. They are just blah and not helpful. I think it's more likely to come from town, scum tend to try harder to look like they are helping.

[osuka]

He may have brought ntrp down the wagon (and derailed the wagon by doing so), but i was getting off very soon either way (vide 225 at the top of this page)

If jae flips scum I can put tatters back on the hanger but i don't expect either of them to

[aphix]

He may have brought ntrp down the wagon (and derailed the wagon by doing so), but i was getting off very soon either way (vide 225 at the top of this page)

If jae flips scum I can put tatters back on the hanger but i don't expect either of them to

Are you partners with one of them?

[osuka]

both actually

[aphix]

Knew it.

[NotTheRealPaul]

alright aphix i like u more than ici.

idk about scum!jae. like only reason to tr him tn imo is like paranoia. ive been agreeing with him on reads almost all the time, but maybr because nothing really controversial has happened

@dp only two pll are hard tring me as far as i know. tatters, aphix, mwap, and ciara arent.

actually nvm i think ciara trs me.

but stiill only half the game tring me shouldnt dissuade u of ur sr on me.

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[Man With a Plan]

Whoever just replaced and joined, welcome. Still getting used to the site functions. Not used to this forum engine.

[aphix]

*yawn* Sad day. Hate going into weekends on this site.

Alright. Anyone mind giving top two lynch preferences and what reasons you think they are scummy?

[osuka]

mwap because (s?)he keeps fucking posting shit like that

then i had your slot in mind but you're significantly less scummy then icibalus so you're kinda null, and i'm not super excited to lynch a null read

[osuka]

like i wasn't gonna push for a lynch on anyone just yet but that tone and just everything about the posts makes me wanna lynch myself just so i'm out of this fucking game

so can we please, before mwap pushes me over the edge