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Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:33 am

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Ok, finished.

I think Carcalilly is town. Since her #16 or so, she actually has posted more content than I thought.

She has been consistent in giving reads. Some of her explanations have been, well, unhelpful: "it's just the stuff they say and the way they say it". However, she interacted with a wide swath of the game, in reaction to game events, with opinions, and that is content. I don't find any obvious contradictions in those opinions. In fact, all of them make some kind of legitimate sense to me.

She also has done at least a little scum hunting / investigation. During the neighborizer fiasco, she pressed hebi on her hesitation to be Masoned. She asked for a meta read on PV. She asks if Ninja is a scum roll.

She's consistently shared her reads on other players, and they aren't bad.

Her scetchy interaction with narna is the worst part of her play as far as I can see. But even that has a very simple town explanation.

Town by me.

Carc, you have posted a lot more than I gave you credit for. I apologize. Now go do your homework.
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Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:34 am

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In post 3272, Bins wrote:
In post 3251, TPFKAP wrote:Bins is voting for a wagon that she says is grapes'
thats.. thats not what i meant? or like how is this bad? my original vote was sheeping grapes but i still agree with the scumread
Bins, what is the scumread, in your own words?
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Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:34 am

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In post 3137, Zachstralkita wrote:fuck those 60+ pages.
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Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 3278, Hopkirk wrote:Theatre involving multiple replace outs and a site ban seems like pretty next level theatre. Their partner(s) must be really persuasive if this happened. Option 2 also need analysis with it, hence doesn’t sound like what you initially called scum theatre.
As of page 120 I dislike the guy with the big wagon thing.
Was someone actually banned?
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Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:36 am

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In post 3300, TPFKAP wrote:Ok, finished.

I think Carcalilly is town. Since her #16 or so, she actually has posted more content than I thought.

She has been consistent in giving reads. Some of her explanations have been, well, unhelpful: "it's just the stuff they say and the way they say it". However, she interacted with a wide swath of the game, in reaction to game events, with opinions, and that is content. I don't find any obvious contradictions in those opinions. In fact, all of them make some kind of legitimate sense to me.

She also has done at least a little scum hunting / investigation. During the neighborizer fiasco, she pressed hebi on her hesitation to be Masoned. She asked for a meta read on PV. She asks if Ninja is a scum roll.

She's consistently shared her reads on other players, and they aren't bad.

Her scetchy interaction with narna is the worst part of her play as far as I can see. But even that has a very simple town explanation.

Town by me.

Carc, you have posted a lot more than I gave you credit for. I apologize. Now go do your homework.
Which parts here are alignment indicative? 2 sounds like busywork questions, and 3 is somewhat mitigated by 1.
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Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:37 am

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I don't see scum motivation for anything she's done.
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Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:38 am

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In post 3303, TPFKAP wrote:
In post 3278, Hopkirk wrote:Theatre involving multiple replace outs and a site ban seems like pretty next level theatre. Their partner(s) must be really persuasive if this happened. Option 2 also need analysis with it, hence doesn’t sound like what you initially called scum theatre.
As of page 120 I dislike the guy with the big wagon thing.
Was someone actually banned?
RB and all his alts were site banned for over a month. I assume some of the 'multiple reports' came from the 2 most vocal people about it, and reporting a scum partner for an agreed startegy just isn't believable.

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Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:44 am

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Just over a month? Doesn't change my mind. However, I don't know any of the people involved, and everyone who talks about it says I'm wrong about this, so ok, I'll move on for now.
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Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:45 am

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Lol
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Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:49 am

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In post 3307, TPFKAP wrote:Just over a month? Doesn't change my mind. However, I don't know any of the people involved, and everyone who talks about it says I'm wrong about this, so ok, I'll move on for now.
Given it mentions abusive PMs too, and RB wasn't in any other games, it seems logical to conclude this continued out of thread.
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Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:53 am

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In post 3302, Lycanfire wrote:
In post 3137, Zachstralkita wrote:fuck those 60+ pages.
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Damn you. Towniest post.


Stardew Valley is a good game, by the way. Why don't I play it?
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Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:54 am

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Uzi, what actions did carcallily do that made you think she was scummy, and why?
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Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:55 am

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In post 3309, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3307, TPFKAP wrote:Just over a month? Doesn't change my mind. However, I don't know any of the people involved, and everyone who talks about it says I'm wrong about this, so ok, I'll move on for now.
Given it mentions abusive PMs too, and RB wasn't in any other games, it seems logical to conclude this continued out of thread.
Sure, and/or in the scum chat. Ok back to moving on.
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Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:59 am

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In post 3312, TPFKAP wrote:
In post 3309, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3307, TPFKAP wrote:Just over a month? Doesn't change my mind. However, I don't know any of the people involved, and everyone who talks about it says I'm wrong about this, so ok, I'll move on for now.
Given it mentions abusive PMs too, and RB wasn't in any other games, it seems logical to conclude this continued out of thread.
Sure, and/or in the scum chat. Ok back to moving on.
Which means it wasn't planned, which was your theory. I'm happy to move on now.
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Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:11 am

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In post 3313, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3312, TPFKAP wrote:
In post 3309, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3307, TPFKAP wrote:Just over a month? Doesn't change my mind. However, I don't know any of the people involved, and everyone who talks about it says I'm wrong about this, so ok, I'll move on for now.
Given it mentions abusive PMs too, and RB wasn't in any other games, it seems logical to conclude this continued out of thread.
Sure, and/or in the scum chat. Ok back to moving on.
Which means it wasn't planned, which was your theory. I'm happy to move on now.
i WANT to ask "3hat means it wasn't planned?" But I won't cause of moving on.
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Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:08 pm

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the implication would be tactical anyway. suggesting it as a theory is disingenuous.
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Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:19 pm

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In post 3311, TPFKAP wrote:Uzi, what actions did carcallily do that made you think she was scummy, and why?
Narna interactions mainly. Self explanatory.
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Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:30 pm

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I contradicted myself and will always go back and forth on Narna's alignment this game *shrug*
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Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:50 pm

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In post 3316, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 3311, TPFKAP wrote:Uzi, what actions did carcallily do that made you think she was scummy, and why?
Narna interactions mainly. Self explanatory.
I read carcalilly's interactions with narna and see an easy town explanation. You obviously don't see this issue the same way. Therefore, the situation is not self-explanatory.

You decided to include "mainly", what other factors are you considering?

You have not justified your vote, which makes it hard to analyze. It looks like you are just bandwagoning because you are itching for the day to end.
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Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:53 pm

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In post 3315, Zachstralkita wrote:the implication would be tactical anyway. suggesting it as a theory is disingenuous.
Could you say this another way? I don't understand what you are trying to say.
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Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:54 pm

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In post 3319, TPFKAP wrote:
In post 3315, Zachstralkita wrote:the implication would be tactical anyway. suggesting it as a theory is disingenuous.
Could you say this another way? I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Tactical play as scum. Replacing tactically is illegal, but two scum coordinating replaces wouldn't be missed at all. Unless there's a preference for that that I don't know about.
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Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 3318, TPFKAP wrote:
In post 3316, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 3311, TPFKAP wrote:Uzi, what actions did carcallily do that made you think she was scummy, and why?
Narna interactions mainly. Self explanatory.
I read carcalilly's interactions with narna and see an easy town explanation. You obviously don't see this issue the same way. Therefore, the situation is not self-explanatory.

You decided to include "mainly", what other factors are you considering?

You have not justified your vote, which makes it hard to analyze. It looks like you are just bandwagoning because you are itching for the day to end.
The overall consensus is that's self explanatory. Just because one or two people might answer 5 for 2+2, does not mean the answer isn't 4.

I don't like her read on me. We only have one completed game together in which she was scum and I don't believe that's succiffent due to such a small sample size and as scum you're not trying to read for alignment but more for how people are reacting to you.

I am bandwagoning because I scum read the play and the slots I want to get lynched aren't preferred right now.
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Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:10 pm

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In post 3320, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3319, TPFKAP wrote:
In post 3315, Zachstralkita wrote:the implication would be tactical anyway. suggesting it as a theory is disingenuous.
Could you say this another way? I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Tactical play as scum. Replacing tactically is illegal, but two scum coordinating replaces wouldn't be missed at all. Unless there's a preference for that that I don't know about.
I did not know it was illegal.
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Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:13 pm

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I'm 40% gut, 20% past games, and 15% logic
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Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:14 pm

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and sorry//kfap if youre town i will not disappoint
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