Large Normal 205: Sibling's Love and Quarrel [Endgame]

[Creature]

He was spamming, I didn't know what his stances were.

[Alisae]

Mulch Jul 10, 12:04pm Aug 13, 05:39pm 0 days 1 hour 1204
Lil Uzi Vert Jul 10, 11:45am Aug 13, 06:23pm 0 days 0 hours 820
Zachstralkita Jul 10, 10:35am Aug 13, 06:41pm 0 days 0 hours 779
Transcend Jul 10, 02:55pm Aug 05, 05:31pm 8 days 1 hour 776
Creature Jul 10, 10:57am Aug 13, 06:47pm 0 days 0 hours 624

[mastina]

You can read the review thread to see what the reviewers had to say about it
they approved it so...

It's not public yet but presumably will be.
And actually, looking at it.

For the current setup we didn't actually say much.

We just went,
"Oh. This is good. We need details, but we don't need revisions".
I stand by that judgement call by the way--we didn't go into any elaborate detailed breakdown of the setup but had we done so it would have just been a more verbose way of saying exactly what we did, that the setup was good as-is and we were approving it. I think setup balance was fine.
Player balance was not.
In that this particular playerlist was a trainwreck waiting to happen. (And trainwreck = scum win.)

Sure enough...

[mastina]

(That being said the review PT is an interesting read from a mafia theory/discussion viewpoint anyway, because the setup we passed is altogether an entirely different animal from the setup originally proposed and Fro99er had originally planned something really ambitious which pushed the limits of Normality and brought up a valid concern which is a topic the NRG to this very day is discussing.)

[Zachstralkita]

Carcalilly plays like scum but she magically escapes (I WK'd her very hard here) and Mulch manages to get townread for every reason people should scumread him, it's great. I don't know why I was townread, though.



Also, apparently I have a scum tell. Interesting.

[Chickadee]

I just need to work on putting words with my reads.

[Alisae]

I definitely agree with what mastina had to say,
if you're interested in setups and stuff, read the review thread, it is definitely worth the read

Frog had came up with the idea of a Traitor Enabler
so that's interesting

[Nosferatu]

Carcalilly plays like scum but she magically escapes (I WK'd her very hard here) and Mulch manages to get townread for every reason people should scumread him, it's great. I don't know why I was townread, though.



Also, apparently I have a scum tell. Interesting.

you just kept dodging questions and people were just ok with it

it was just a bizarre experience

[Alisae]

We went from


Town (13):
2-shot Jailkeeper
2-shot Private Thread Cop
2-shot Gunsmith
Miller Neighbor (Hood A)
Miller Neighbor (Hood A)
Mason
Mason
6 VTs

Mafia:
Traitor Neighbor (Hood B)
Traitor Neighbor (Hood B)
2-shot Rolecop
Traitor-Enabler

If the traitor-enabler dies, the Traitors no longer possess traitor ability (which means they essentially become goons and lose all traitor abilities meaning they can make night kills, they join the main mafia PT, they don't get endgamed if they are the only scum alive, and they report as DO have a gun to a gunsmith).

To our current setup!

[Creature]

Carcalilly plays like scum but she magically escapes (I WK'd her very hard here) and Mulch manages to get townread for every reason people should scumread him, it's great. I don't know why I was townread, though.



Also, apparently I have a scum tell. Interesting.

Apparently her being a lynchbait got her away.

[Creature]

Yeah, that setup definitely would be confusing.

[Zachstralkita]

Carcalilly plays like scum but she magically escapes (I WK'd her very hard here) and Mulch manages to get townread for every reason people should scumread him, it's great. I don't know why I was townread, though.



Also, apparently I have a scum tell. Interesting.

you just kept dodging questions and people were just ok with it

it was just a bizarre experience

Just Like U Dodged The W

[mastina]

For what it's worth in the original setup my concern wasn't the Normality of the mechanic but just how ridiculously scumsided the proposed setup was.
The other reviewers however had very strong words about the normality of the mechanic.

[Creature]

What I dislike about jailkeepers (and roleblockers and trackers/followers) is that once it's down to one scum they become very efficient.

[Nosferatu]

I didn't dodge the W

I ran away at Mach fucking 5

[Zachstralkita]

Lmao you were freaking out tho with the Vedith push, Nos.




Also if I were town this game I would have blasted Vedith for toxicity. That interaction should have been moderated a little.

[Nosferatu]

the fact that it occurred to me that it could be scum on either side is just ludicrous

[Creature]

Vedith was a massive help for scum with that kraska push, I could've locked kraska as town.

[Mulch]

I didn't bus the entire game. I wanted to but never did. Thanks for saying I was pro town alisae

[Nosferatu]

Mulch is just the type of person to bus. Now that I saw that he'll turn into Pine his next scum game.

[Nosferatu]

*Say

[Mulch]

Thanks for shitting on me the entire dead thread alisae

[Mulch]

And putting my private discord messages that I thought were in confidence for everyone to see

[Creature]

idk why I kept assuming Transcend was jailkeeper despite him never claiming it.

[Mulch]

ALSO: fuck you all who said I was obvious scum. Lynch me next time.