Mini Normal 1940: The Apartment [Endgame]

[RadiantCowbells]

I did say so: I said that there is a person here who is capable of reading Firecrocer and they think that she's town. That person is me.

There is also a large portion of the site who irrationally thinks that Firecrocer is scum or who roll scum and use her as a free mislynch because towns are shit, and that portion is called other people.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I haven't seen any push from Croc so I'm not sure where Tes is getting that from. I just see hard to believe reasoning.

[RadiantCowbells]

I understand you have experience with her as well as meta. You do realize that others don't and some aren't going to view her play the same way in those games as you do if they bother to compare it to here right? Or that there are players that don't put much stock in meta?

I think if you want people to come around to town Croc, you need something better.

I don't think I need to do anything beyond what I've already done to be 100% sure that she doesn't get lynched while I'm alive.
If you want to be dumb and lynch her when I'm gone, that's your prerogative and I have no control over that.

[RadiantCowbells]

I haven't seen any push from Croc so I'm not sure where Tes is getting that from. I just see hard to believe reasoning.

So you agree that Tesxx is twisting what actually happened to help justify a shit push on Firecrocer? You should vote them with me then.

[TesXX]

I don't recall putting Croc at L-1 unannounced.

Are you drunk RC?

Nah I just wanted to get people to unvote because I'm concerned that scum are trying to rush a mislynch today to nightkill me.

Although why would scum rush a mislynch? Wouldn't that make them clearly obvious?

I mean I think that you're obvious scum with your shit tier push on Firecrocer but apparently that's not a universally agreed upon opinion so . . .

There is a difference between not scumreading me for the reasons you are and not scumreading 3 or 4 people that rush a quicklynch on pages 6-8.

[TesXX]

Wait Radiant -- why are you townreading fire again?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I understand you have experience with her as well as meta. You do realize that others don't and some aren't going to view her play the same way in those games as you do if they bother to compare it to here right? Or that there are players that don't put much stock in meta?

I think if you want people to come around to town Croc, you need something better.

I don't think I need to do anything beyond what I've already done to be 100% sure that she doesn't get lynched while I'm alive.
If you want to be dumb and lynch her when I'm gone, that's your prerogative and I have no control over that.

Well this is my first encounter with her so I guess I can do some homework.

And I think you do? How can you have the "towns are shit" stance and not think you need to do more than usual?

[TesXX]

Like I get you have meta with her, but what ABOUT meta is it that you're townreading her for.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I haven't seen any push from Croc so I'm not sure where Tes is getting that from. I just see hard to believe reasoning.

So you agree that Tesxx is twisting what actually happened to help justify a shit push on Firecrocer? You should vote them with me then.

Except I can see how one can see her explaining her reasoning as a push.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wait Radiant -- why are you townreading fire again?

How did you forget or not know this? He just basically stated it like a minute ago.

[RadiantCowbells]

I understand you have experience with her as well as meta. You do realize that others don't and some aren't going to view her play the same way in those games as you do if they bother to compare it to here right? Or that there are players that don't put much stock in meta?

I think if you want people to come around to town Croc, you need something better.

I don't think I need to do anything beyond what I've already done to be 100% sure that she doesn't get lynched while I'm alive.
If you want to be dumb and lynch her when I'm gone, that's your prerogative and I have no control over that.

Well this is my first encounter with her so I guess I can do some homework.

And I think you do? How can you have the "towns are shit" stance and not think you need to do more than usual?

...I've done enough. My job is done.
I don't think that I have anything more that I have to do today and I don't think spending more time committing to that townread will change people's actions when I'm dead.
Your issue is that you think that I am required for some reason to give reasons. I'm not, it doesn't give town any sort of benefit, my job is mostly done here.

Except I can see how one can see her explaining her reasoning as a push.

There's choices of words and phrases that show a clear malicious intent to frame the push in a bad way.

How did you forget or not know this? He just basically stated it like a minute ago.

This is called TesXX realizing that they're pushing a dead end and trying to find an excuse to back off of it.

[TesXX]

You've explained why you think things she did was NAI but link me to the post where you explain why you think she's TOWN, because I seem to keep missing it.

[TesXX]

How did you forget or not know this? He just basically stated it like a minute ago.

This is called TesXX realizing that they're pushing a dead end and trying to find an excuse to back off of it.

How? I asked why you're townreading her. I want to know. How is this finding an excuse to back off of it when I can just read your reason for townreading her and then back off?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I understand you have experience with her as well as meta. You do realize that others don't and some aren't going to view her play the same way in those games as you do if they bother to compare it to here right? Or that there are players that don't put much stock in meta?

I think if you want people to come around to town Croc, you need something better.

I don't think I need to do anything beyond what I've already done to be 100% sure that she doesn't get lynched while I'm alive.
If you want to be dumb and lynch her when I'm gone, that's your prerogative and I have no control over that.

Well this is my first encounter with her so I guess I can do some homework.

And I think you do? How can you have the "towns are shit" stance and not think you need to do more than usual?

...I've done enough. My job is done.
I don't think that I have anything more that I have to do today and I don't think spending more time committing to that townread will change people's actions when I'm dead.
Your issue is that you think that I am required for some reason to give reasons. I'm not, it doesn't give town any sort of benefit, my job is mostly done here.

Except I can see how one can see her explaining her reasoning as a push.

There's choices of words and phrases that show a clear malicious intent to frame the push in a bad way.

How did you forget or not know this? He just basically stated it like a minute ago.

This is called TesXX realizing that they're pushing a dead end and trying to find an excuse to back off of it.

Well can you at least link those games before you go?

[TesXX]

Well can you at least link those games before you go?

[RadiantCowbells]

Postie drones did 9/11

[Keyen]

I dont get the argument
So tes voted our mod
And it's considered scummy
Like why?
I mean it's not
How is that scum indicative

[Keyen]

Fire scumreads tes because tes voted the mod. According to fire, it's unhelpful. I think it's ridiculous, but firecrocer doesn't sound scum for me because of that.
I kinda feel like tes is more scum rather than fire

[RadiantCowbells]

It's not

that's not why tesxx is scum

but I totally understand the line of reasoning Firecrocer went down for that vote and it's not difficult to understand.

Votes in RVS from a certain point of view give everyone information.
Votes on the mod in RVS obscure information.
Therefore, TesXX is scum because they're obscuring information.

It's bad reasoning. But it doesn't make Firecrocer scum.

[TesXX]

RC, I still want the link to the post where you explained why you're townreading firecrocer. And I don't mean the posts where you say she isn't necessarily scum. I want why you are TOWNreading her.

[TesXX]

Also, I have no way of knowing that YOU'RE town therefore I don't know if you're reading her right so idk really why you think I should listen to you over what

I

think is right.

I'd also like an ACTUAL response to this EXPLAINING why you think this is wrong RC.

[Fykus]

Sorry guys, ill try and post something worthwhile today after work. Finding it a little hard to find a "jumping off point"; this game is filled with so many people I look up to so its a bit overwhelming.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, I have no way of knowing that YOU'RE town therefore I don't know if you're reading her right so idk really why you think I should listen to you over what

I

think is right.

I'd also like an ACTUAL response to this EXPLAINING why you think this is wrong RC.

It's not about wrong or right it's about the fact that this is a super scummy way of asking the question and you're not talking to me like town who thinks I'm scum.

[Boonskiies]

TesXX is probably scum that's mad about being pushed without concrete evidence and from what he was meaning as joke posts. That's probably why Mulch chainsaw'd onto me with a wrong meta case.

[Boonskiies]

Vedith \o/

I'm quoting this for emphasis. I think it's the most hilarious post ever.