Normal 1934: Civilization Mafia Mafia (Endgame)

[Ginngie]

I'm also a town PR \o/

[Ether]

Civilization Mafia may have been the longest game in terms of pagecount, but there are other games that dragged on longer

chronologically

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Chess Mafia would have been the longest mafia game ever, coming in at 682 days, if it even counted as a mafia game. The town could win through either lynching the scum or winning the ongoing chess game, while the scum had to succeed at both aspects of the game to win. The obvious strategy for town was to play out the chess game and only bother turning to lynches if they were about to lose at chess, and this was exactly what they did. At no point during this almost two year time span was anybody ever lynched.

The runner up, Egypt Mafia, ran for 447 days, and it probably did qualify as a mafia game! That is about the best thing you can say for it. When the cult leader recruited my mason buddy, the mod forgot to mention this to him, and he unwittingly led his own recruiter's lynch the next day with no one else in the cult, confirming himself. The game would then lurch on for another year, long past the point where anybody could be assed to post more than once a week, before finally being declared a draw at the very end because of the cult screwup.

This is our heritage.

Civilization Mafia Mafia:

Votecount 2.35:

Tchill13 (4): massive, Assemblerotws, Eddie Cane, Korts
humaneatingmonkey (3): Dark Horse, Sunlit Diamond, Grendel
Eddie Cane (2): Tchill13, Robbnva
Assemblerotws (1): Ginngie
Robbnva (0):
Grendel (0):
massive (0):
Korts (0):
Sunlit Diamond (0):
Ginngie (0):
nancy (0):
Dark Horse (0):

Not Voting: nancy, humaneatingmonkey

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.

The day has begun and will end in (expired on 2017-08-29 23:00:00).

Remaining posts count to come later.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Just have me survive until Day 3 and we're good.

DH, that "you weren't reading" quote was a misquote. it was supposed to be TChill.

Also, I'm not targeting TChill. I'm sorting him. It's the easiest sort of the day since he's claimed vig but the problem is he didn't confirm the kill which is suspect.

[Tchill13]

Look if I was scum I just would have said that vecna was the jail keeper and I was role blocked.

[Korts]

What reason would scum!TChill have for saying he didn't shoot versus hiding behind Vecna's JK?

Actually that's a good question. I... don't know.

VOTE: Unvote

Then again, Tchill's play has been less than optimal regardless of alignment, so arguing out of a position of "why would scumTchill do this" doesn't help my read a hell of a lot either. I kinda dread having him around at endgame, because who the fuck can tell.

I gotta go catch a train, I will address other stuff later today.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: korts

If you believe my claim and unvoted me because of it there's no reason for me to be around end game because I would be NK'd. You should believe this because you apparently believe my claim now. You throw shade while hopping off the wagon in hopes that my lynch goes through while you're not on it.

[Robbnva]

I'm also a town PR \o/

On now you are a pr? Changing your claim?

[Eddie Cane]

VOTE: monkey

lmk if anyone is down for a korts wagon.

t chill, vig tonight or you're just scum. assemble is still a good target

[Korts]

You did the opposite. It seemed like instead of causing you to back down, you just started gunning for his lynch even harder, which is mad scummy. Even now, you’re trying to dismiss being wrong by saying it was a “bogus claim.”

I'm not trying to dismiss being wrong. I'm just trying to justify my position. It was a bogus claim because of all the weaselly shit before it that made it look like a last-ditch survival attempt. I was wrong, but I stand by my judgement. Vecna was incredibly scummy.

As for monkey, well - I wasn't focused on him, because I thought I caught a scum already. But looking back, I don't see how his claim is so similar to Vecna's, because of a distinct lack of weaselly shit beforehand. Both of them made early partial claims, but that's about the extent of it, and you're disregarding a whole lot of circumstance to make your comparison. monkey's wagon built up simply as an alternative to Vecna rather than due to any one reason, and he claimed out of deadline jitters. It didn't look particularly scummy on first skim, and it doesn't look scummy to me now.

A silly question, but humor me please. What was the last game you played through to completion here?

Last summer - Micro 623 was the first time I played since 2013. I joined another game this March, but quickly replaced out due to the spamposting.

VOTE: korts

If you believe my claim and unvoted me because of it there's no reason for me to be around end game because I would be NK'd. You should believe this because you apparently believe my claim now. You throw shade while hopping off the wagon in hopes that my lynch goes through while you're not on it.

I did not unvote because I believe you, I unvoted because I do not see any more scum justification for your claim than I do town, and that is not a good basis for a vote.

What gave you the idea that I believe you being town? What I said is I don't know, because your bad play transcends alignment and can no longer be used as a reliable gauge. If you're scum, you're clearly not going to be a kill target, and even if you're town, it's not sure you would be killed at this point.

Analyses and way forward tomorrow. I'm off to play with my parents' new puppy now.

[Korts]

VOTE: monkey

lmk if anyone is down for a korts wagon.

t chill, vig tonight or you're just scum. assemble is still a good target

Of course you are, Eddie.

[Tchill13]

"even if I'm town it's not sure I'd be killed at this point" lol. Yeah scums gonna leave the pr alive that can kill them. That's laughable. If you don't believe I'm a vig then you should believe I'm scum. It's as simple as that.

[Korts]

Well a) vigs can kill town just as easily as they can kill scum, and with greater probability. And b) leaving you alive would raise that very question of why you aren't dead yet, potentially hijacking a lynch if they can whip up enough of a frenzy about it.

[Tchill13]

A) we lynch scum, I get lucky and kill scum then that's probably most of the scum team right there.

B) the risk of a vig killing scum isn't worth the risk of hoping he kills town when you're scum.

[Sunlit Diamond]

@mod please replace me

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My RL has gone crazy town. Dropping out of all games to focus. Sorry guys, I'll be back in a few weeks. </3

[Grendel]

Just have me survive until Day 3 and we're good.

DH, that "you weren't reading" quote was a misquote. it was supposed to be TChill.

Also, I'm not targeting TChill. I'm sorting him. It's the easiest sort of the day since he's claimed vig but the problem is he didn't confirm the kill which is suspect.

Okay Monkey, I was top scum read of yours yesterday.

Why are you avoiding me today?

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A silly question, but humor me please. What was the last game you played through to completion here?

Last summer - Micro 623 was the first time I played since 2013. I joined another game this March, but quickly replaced out due to the spamposting.

Yes, I was in the Making Friends and enemies when you subbed out there.

Anyways, thanks. I have something to say, but I need to look at your iso first.

[massive]

"even if I'm town it's not sure I'd be killed at this point" lol. Yeah scums gonna leave the pr alive that can kill them. That's laughable. If you don't believe I'm a vig then you should believe I'm scum. It's as simple as that.

None of us believe you're a vig. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T VIG ANYONE. Jeezus.

[massive]

Like, honestly, why would Mafia kill you if you actually ARE town? You're too terrified to actually shoot. You're just a named townie.

[Tchill13]

I don't understand how you can say I'm not a vig but I might be town.

[Robbnva]

Is anyone town reading korts?

[Eddie Cane]

t chill is just bad town me thinks

[Assemblerotws]

No way TChill is ever becoming obvtown in this game.

[Ginngie]

No way assemblr is ever becoming obvtown in this game.

FTFY

[Eddie Cane]

No way Eddie cane is ever getting lynched in this game.

FTFY

FTFY

[RadiantCowbells]

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