Kidney Mafia (Game Over)

[TPFKAP]

Okay do you want to start over and see if we can find some common ground?

Love to! Ask away I will give honest no bullshit answers.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you disagree with anyone in my townblock and why?

[RadiantCowbells]

I wonder what the mod feels about me trying to play town leader and trying to glue stuff up as survivor.

This is going to be a great dead/mod thread to read in postgame tbh.

[Transcend]

Do you disagree with anyone in my townblock and why?

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red role pm

[RadiantCowbells]

I honestly think you're a lot more likely to be scum than several people in there.

[TPFKAP]

hebi, lycan, gerry, pv, hopkirk, toroginitoh, trans, raybells, vecna, and grapes

My poe for town is

Hebichan, PeregrineV, Gerryoat, Lycanfire, Transcend, probably Vecna, Carcalilly, tbh probably TPFKAP, probably Arcade Fire,

I know hebi claimed mason. Last time I played "mason" wasn't always 100% town. i swear her first 5 posts are scum, yes in RVS. I can't let go until PV posts, honestly.

Vecna, let me get back to you in a minute...

AP I hesitate on because of what other people have said about the ninja modifier (which I don't understand), but also again their RVS felt scum to me in concert with gonk.

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ruh roh raggy

[RadiantCowbells]

So you think that they're scum -with- Gonkadoop taskmaster? Why, specifically?

[TPFKAP]

I just don't understand why the narna slot swooped in so hard to save hebi.

[RadiantCowbells]

People defend their townreads. You should see me in several games where I've completely halted the game because I've refused to allow people to get wagoned.

[TPFKAP]

The first 20 pages indicate to me that gonk manipulated Zach into claiming. It looks like he used Arcade, either intentionally or unwittingly, to help him leverage Zach. Therefore, I'd rather lynch gonk, but I'm ok on Arcade.

I chose to include PV in the story because he played an integral part in the pressure dynamics in that conversation.

Several of the players in this game are treating this like chat-room mafia, and I am unable to process this much text in depth. Likewise, I am not able to chime in on every topic or react to every development in real time. I have notes on everyone whose posts I have read so far, and I am currently reading several people carefully. When I have another confident lead, I will share that.

Can we start with what your reaction to this answer of what I think is the same question?

[RadiantCowbells]

(If you cite specific instances in RVS I can discuss that. I don't think Narna's defense of Hebi is scum indicative: can you explain why you think it is?)

[TPFKAP]

People defend their townreads. You should see me in several games where I've completely halted the game because I've refused to allow people to get wagoned.

So she fakeclaimed neighborizer to defend her townread?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can we start with what your reaction to this answer of what I think is the same question?

I feel like it's very narrativey: you've come to a conclusion about how everything fits together and what that means and are matching the evidence to it rather than sorting the evidence independently. It's easy to fall into the trap of just assuming that the first idea that comes into your head about what happened is the right one but that doesn't mean that's what happened.

[TPFKAP]

Yes! That's exactly what I am doing. I am looking at the evidence as it comes and trying to fit it into a narrative. Im also making predictions about what I think will happen next. I call those theories. Then more things happen, new discoveries are made, and the narrative is examined again. My theories evolve.

[TPFKAP]

...as I close in on the truth.

[TPFKAP]

that was an indication of teamwork or manipulation to me. I don't think it's happened again, but it did happen. I have no townreads on AP so, they are still at -1.5

[TPFKAP]

...as I close in on the truth.

Except, of course, that the absolute truth will never be known.

[TPFKAP]

...as I close in on the truth.

Except, of course, that the absolute truth will never be known.

Scumtell, goodnight

[TPFKAP]

That's sarcasm.

[grapes]

@RC

she might be on a different scumteam, but idk

scumslip?

yes, i scumslipped saying that you might be on a different scumteam than vedith

Only time he interacts with carca that I'm seeing; not sure what's town about this. Carca read progression in general started and has stayed a white knight all game. The reasons for that wagon were pretty justified like carca even admitted it herself; thinking this is more scum indicative than town if carca's town which is where I'm leaning at the moment especially after the GR flip.


and gerry revolving all his reads around caught scum wifom is actually pretty bad; especially considering bins already made a good point that GR was just listing off the names of who was online at the time; gerry keeps the scumread though because "lol you're still scum by rb interactions yesterday anyway"

I'm mostly squinting at rb interactions and overall staleness.


There are some turnarounds, yea

But hebi was after she claimed mason..

And the arcade turnaround you quoted isn't bad admittedly but if gerry's scum 4195 means he never really planned to keep the tr there in the first place. (and it's a slot that he has scum motivation to fake a little bit of progression on because of who's in the hydra) add that to there not being anywhere close to as much thought put into reads on like.. any other slots including his stronger scumreads and yea I'm actually more happy with where my vote's at now heh

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btw 4831 or something of that calibre is a common scumline for me

not sure how you called town solely for that

[grapes]

seems p reasonable at a glance

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Excellent

Anybody else?

[grapes]

trans you wanna vote gerry?

pretty sure that's scum

[Transcend]

i mean i think he might be but i need like a solid case that isn't meta to want to push there