I can see reading the post that way. I have a different thought, but I'd like for Chiaotzu to address this with you before I say more.In post 3149, Realeo wrote:Radja was being dismissive in that post and simply attack Bin credibility which smells unhonest manipulation.
I mean, even if that the same thing happened to me/Bins, I spend sometime to adress her concern.
Radja sounds like a politician who knew he cant win an argument so he just question the credibility of the asker.
And we all know politicians is evil.
kIn post 3150, Errantparabola wrote:I wonder if I can get Bins and implosion fired?
Here's my recap as to why OT(Realeo's predecessor) was scum. I don't really have any reasons to feel better about Realeo.In post 3029, Game Replacement wrote:Okay, where's the Scum part?
This is what we have
Real
-Bad hammer (NAI)
Dreal
-Counter wagon day 1 (maybe AI, but very weak)
-pushing people voting Nos when he was counter wagon (NAI)
-Said to vote Wisdom (possibly AI)
How many people Scum read Wisdom at that point?
I'll check at my pc soon and decide if Dreal was at fault for fueling it or if he was just blinded on voting.
In post 1813, Chiaotzu wrote:I don't really remember Undertale? So that's probably correctIn post 1619, GuiltyLion wrote:you were scum in Undertale mafia where you lurked out, but I think that's the only game I rememberIn post 1617, Chiaotzu wrote:GL, have you played with me before of is it just because you played several games I modded that it feels like we have?
I wouldn't say meta is primarily driving my scumread of you though
Can you walk me through your OT read, you had them as town early (635) and through 641, then scum in 1261 and then voted them and didn't explain. Why were they an early townread and then what was it that swung them to a scumread
also what are your thoughts on Wisdom townreading you
Hmm, let's see. OT was originally town for me because I really liked the pressure he put on morph in order to read them. They moved down to null after Nacho said he wanted to give me time to produce content and then while I was still catching up, they started pushing me for reasons I don't think Town Nacho would push me for and also at a very opportunistic time. After that Nacho has ignored me entirely and hasn't bothered to answer to me at all. The way they voted you after then and after that went on to say you were making a lot of sense also rubs me the wrong way. This can be a conflict between heads, but they've refused to answer any questions about that. And even then, if it is a conflict, I don't see them not talking about it and just both doing their own thing.
There might have been more to it, but that's all I remember right now.
As for Wisdom, I think the first(?) game we played together, Wisdom pressured and scumread me the entire game, to the point that he was confbiased on everything I did at a certain point. I was town but never really could get any towncredit because I was constantly getting brought down and almost nobody listened to anything I had to say. After that game we have played together again, at which point he did townread me correctly, so I guess he learned how to read me better because of that first game? Either way, I have no issue at all with his townread on me.
That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. You thought the wagon was great and supported it, but you thought it was scum driven too?In post 3030, Bins wrote:because initially I was pretty ok with thinking Valhalla was scum? I was voting them?In post 3027, Chiaotzu wrote:that I did. I don't see the problem. I also don't see why you would have a problem with anyone supporting a wagon you're pushing for any reason at all.In post 3026, Bins wrote:my mistake you said you didnt have a read on them but you put them to L-1In post 3024, Bins wrote:your vote was bad
you literally came in and said your scumreads were elsewhere but still voted the top wagon
i unvoted because of that alnost lol
When I put Valhalla at L-1, you were so quick to force a claim, why didn't you call me out at that point instead of asking for that claim?
but then their claim was town so I looked for bad votes on the wagon
why is Bins town?In post 3047, morph the cat wrote:Because I felt like it? I've come into thread and almost voted Implosion a couple times. Also, it amused me to sheep Ceph after he sheeped us on Valhalla yesterday.
Ceph has become my strongest townread.
I approach games with find-town-and-POE. This game, I've been struggling to form strong scumreads from the start and it's gotten marginally better.. The one thing I'm sure about at this point is that Ceph and Bins are town.
wtf is this?In post 3053, Realeo wrote:Is it just me or Chaiotzu game plan is like Flubber : scumread everyone who scumread me?
I can't ignore my scumread on OT and I won't. Realeo has been asking me (and others probably) questions but I don't get the feeling like he's doing much with the answers. He's not doing anything to improve my read but he's not doing anything to make it worse either(aside from hammering town). I sometimes have a hard time understanding him because his English can be pretty confusing for a non-native speaker like myself.In post 3060, implosion wrote:I'm asking what your opinion on Realeo's posting is, ignoring your prior scumread on OT.Chi wrote:Realeo still bothers me and his hammer doesn't exactly improve things...
I'm not sure what you're asking me here though. Want to explain?
I'm not saying implosion(or other scum) pushed any lynches. But when 3 confirmed townies are scumreading the same person, it is worth reconsidering that slot.In post 3068, GuiltyLion wrote:"really" worrying? I mean scum have only directly killed 1 of the 3 dead townies so far. Do you think scum pushed Nos or Wisdom in part because they were scumreading implosion? If so, then who specifically do you think may have been doing that and why?In post 3021, Chiaotzu wrote:It's also really worrying me that literally all the dead townies were scumreading implosion.
Did I miss this part somewhere?In post 3127, morph the cat wrote:You were the attempted scum kill last night so clearly they thought so too.In post 3117, Cephrir wrote:if bins were scum i wouldn't be surprised if it was with morph, the latter thinking it's ok to have a massive townread on her because of me having one
You're going to have to explain this to me like I'm 5 years old. I did what now?In post 3149, Realeo wrote:Radja was being dismissive in that post and simply attack Bin credibility which smells unhonest manipulation.
I mean, even if that the same thing happened to me/Bins, I spend sometime to adress her concern.
Radja sounds like a politician who knew he cant win an argument so he just question the credibility of the asker.
And we all know politicians is evil.
What is it you don't understand?In post 3162, Chiaotzu wrote:Did I miss this part somewhere?In post 3127, morph the cat wrote:You were the attempted scum kill last night so clearly they thought so too.In post 3117, Cephrir wrote:if bins were scum i wouldn't be surprised if it was with morph, the latter thinking it's ok to have a massive townread on her because of me having one
How do you know Ceph was targeted last night?In post 3164, morph the cat wrote:What is it you don't understand?In post 3162, Chiaotzu wrote:Did I miss this part somewhere?In post 3127, morph the cat wrote:You were the attempted scum kill last night so clearly they thought so too.In post 3117, Cephrir wrote:if bins were scum i wouldn't be surprised if it was with morph, the latter thinking it's ok to have a massive townread on her because of me having one
In post 3141, morph the cat wrote:There's a conditional on our role that lets us know if we screwed up the night kill.
I'm insulted that it's that low of a percentage.In post 3171, Cephrir wrote:if i were scum with morph in this game id be having at least 400% more fun
