Mini Normal 1943 [Game over]

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Robbnva

[Zachstralkita]

Good morning Mr. Zachary. Would you please explain your vote on me?

sure


I think we would benefit from lynching scum in the RVS stage, so I have placed my vote on you

Maybe Zach is sk

Hey, guess what, Lily? Mulch is the mod, so he can't be on a scum team with me if I were scum. Now that means hypothetically if you and I were scum together, I'd probably bus you without hesitation!

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Uzi vertical has red pm

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VOTE: WhyMafia

[Zachstralkita]

whymafia trying to hide that he scum

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I cant imagine you seriously believe this

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I cant imagine you seriously believe this

Oh? Do you feel like you've been caught for the wrong reasons?

I'm going to lynch in you/WhyMafia/Uzi and get a red

[Zachstralkita]

Aye so what's good with the wagon on me?

[Zachstralkita]

someone bring iaafr to l-1 y/y

robbnva if you could dayvig somebody rn who would it be

Zach

Come on bro.

[Zachstralkita]

To answer your question I'd say in Alchemist/Whymafia there's min 1 max 2

Wider pool includes Uzi


Yes, that's how you spell O M G U S

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I'll dodge questions if they're really bad, Robb. Alchemist is playing games with me.

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I mean, I'll explain why the wagon on me sucks even for RVS but, I'll give people space to get content from it or whatever.

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Wait, I'm L-3


Fuck off don't vote me lol

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Wait I think that scum are pushing me cause they think I'm not finna snap on em

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VOTE: WhyMafia


Will switch to Uzi in a heartbeat.


Wait I'm on this man already right

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: WhyMafia


Will switch to Uzi in a heartbeat.


Wait I'm on this man already right

plz explain your scumreads in terms of how you personally tend to read people

if only I could scumhunt then I might

since you're so good you can win anyway








pedit lol I don't even keep up with x music to know if it's good or not atm honestly. heard he mock hanged himself on Insta to promote the album, bro just be doing all type of crazy shit

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also going to note that zachs pop in here is scummy

because its only accomplishing "lemme decide which counterwagon against me to go on"

no updated reads, no sign of trying to figure out peoples alignments

etc

but what if zach just plays like this lol

because what is presented to you in the game thread is clearly all that exists

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: WhyMafia


Will switch to Uzi in a heartbeat.


Wait I'm on this man already right

plz explain your scumreads in terms of how you personally tend to read people

so I'm sure it's glossing over me but I don't know your meaning here. I personally tend to read people based on their play. A vote on me does not make up all of "play" before someone asks

looks like zach is though

or just sandbagging out of spite because he doesnt like to articulate stuff when pressured for ego reasons or something?

anyway hes probably town at this point

don't know what I did to get shaded anyway but it's probably warranted


I'm aware you're miles ahead of me but I'm stuck on what you think I need to articulate exactly when a dumb wagon formed on me but the people were actually scummy? back in rvs?


Should I do a reset and just come back playing like you do (in the superficial sense)

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an example of explaining a scumread on liluzivert would be like

i find him scummy because i read people by amount of reads they have at certain points in the thread/day and he doesnt match my impression of how many reads he should have as town by a point

or something

can be a lot of things

just basically articulating what you find scummy as best you can

Uzi vert is capable of playing scum, my perception of what town!him would do would probably only serve to obstruct my judgment

this is how I treat most of my "meta reads"






I mean he's normally an easy townread



Oh explain why he's scum? He's bullshitting, I don't genuinely believe that he believes I rolled red.

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I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing




iaafr is probably town at the moment. I think he's a bad day one lynch

[Zachstralkita]

I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing




iaafr is probably town at the moment. I think he's a bad day one lynch

But if iaafr isn't lynched this game is going to go down the tubes fast. You know how I like to death tunnel. Do
You really want 3/4 game days of it?

Going to fix your quote.

Do you want to lynch my scumread before I tunnel him to unplayability?

My answer is no, I think. Your axiomatic play/read style becomes less of tool and more so a weapon, and the faction it damages usually depends on who you tunnel.



anyways although iaafr's progression *in thread* on me is absolutely wonderful, id like to think scum would be self aware of that

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catching up

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Spoiler:

robbva are you going to rationalize deathtunneling a town who is actually trying to solve the game with just my posting habits?

not sure what you call your deathtunnel threat then

but whatever

luv outside of rabbit who do you dislike rn

you're going to have to get used to his tunnely style of play

i dont intend to have that control the game though

rather i'm not going to do anything whatsoever if this game turns into a shit show, i play mediator too fucking much

house king of deathtunnel

Nah pretty sure that's me.

And I keep laughing every time rabbit says I'm tunneling a town. I'm not

can we have a pact where you write a paragraph how youre embarrassed in postgame this game when you find out im town

town tunnel town all the time

i dont think itd be that embarassing

syndesis do i know you

we are acquainted

can you tell me what i know you as because this is going to bug me

charts bird

got it ty

VOTE: Alchemist21

im sheeping my boy zach on this one

no you not motherfucker i read the post immediately following this

what are you disliking from him rn

also anyone else?

I don't like how she's whining about how fast the game is going.

as much as I love a nice posty game under regular circumstances,

my ability to extract anything useful out of a game this fast while i am v/la is basically nil

So replace out?

What is your deal? You know people will hate hyperposting but still opt to adapt more often than not? No one's gotta force them to say they enjoy it though or should be posting like that on a VLA.

what are you disliking from him rn

also anyone else?

I don't like how she's whining about how fast the game is going.

as much as I love a nice posty game under regular circumstances,

my ability to extract anything useful out of a game this fast while i am v/la is basically nil

So replace out?

are you going to die if i slank for a few days in a ten day phase? probably not

Yes. I will die if I'm not able to effectively sort people.

Please stop whining or replace out.

oh no, going to say it. you haven't sorted jack shit and you have me scum. I'd say that's not sufficient grounds to be talking to people like that :/

Man the rebuttal to this post is going to kill me, and I'm not even prepared for it.

first even if you disagree that it's bad play(I could probably write an essay on why it is) it's still absurdly terrible to do any threat with the explicit purpose of making the game less fun for a player if they don't acquiesce to your demands

second rabbit is a he I believe

third you're 99.9% wrong and you aren't listening to anyone telling you why, you're just assuming that the validity of literally any read is based on whether it agrees with your conclusion

but especially part 1 wtf

1. It's not my intention to make the game less fun. But it is my intention to lynch scum.
2. Oops
3. Nobody has explained why he's town outside of you himself. your reasons are non AI reasons and of course I'm going to ignore his own explanations.

Fluffy's reaction to me saying I dislike reads lists was fake ate. Add in 104 which is basically a cheap shot at me with another ate gimmick of threatening not to interact with me. At this point he calls me town when I did nothing townish. Makes me think he knows I'm town and he wants to try and buddy me after he just insulted me. Calls uzi scummy for agreeing with me which raises another red flag. 122 implies he knows Zach is town (adding to the later post about not caring if he's lynched) is another red flag. I could add more but it's really unnecessary. The icing on top is the self meta.

Meta should never be used. Self meta is a used by desperate people. Town should never be desperate.

There is nothing else in his ISO that looks even remotely town.

So idk where the game is going from here but there is no way rabbit should be alive at the end of the day. If people disagree idk what else I can do but I can't unvote

I mean you do this weird thing where you expect everyone to find scum in the exact same manner you do and it's rather odd

lol at meta should never be used

Meta is so easy to manipulate.

bingo but doesnt apply to iiafr to make him scum at the moment. that's not someone id like to sort today

mafia is also a team game not a "do what i want or I will dislike this game and its players" game . you kind of do it sometimes but several people on this site

your deathtunnel post was actively threatening to do it, which given that you think it's good play means that (I think luv)'s fun was the only thing you could possibly be targeting


lol at meta should never be used

i agree with him that mostly meta blows but it has its uses and there are several






what happened on page 14? nothing

robbva




but like my overall read on him is just still probably town? xdxdxd

facts

acid - uzi,:tchill, and whymafia all had super awkward entrances

Can you explain why you felt they were awkward? Why did they lack social grace or assurance?

awkward as in i could see the "hey guys i'm just a town nothing to see here move along move along radiating off them"

I wouldn't call that awkward.

What's wrong with making a statement that says just that?

i feel like we might just be on totally different wavelengths bc i have no idea how to express this to you

Or you're bullshitting

This is a decent scumpost from Uzi. makes no attempt to relate to player or seek understanding when clearly playstyle differences exist in the first place

Can we turn it down a bit by the way?

The mafia theory discussions aren't doing us any good. They're only creating noise.

this would be a more resonant if you were producing any decent signal in the first place

Fluff and off topic posting isn't noise.

false completely, what is this


when you ISOing someone it is


Tchill can go in null pile for now


would put syndesis leantown but that's sort of silly atm so going to null



acidphoenix is leantown

wm still scummy

Carca, what the hell are you doing this game? I know you're going to give me an aggravating answer, I just like to give myself hope sometimes.

Oh and heads up I town very easily, by the way. People like Uzi and Clilly shouldn't be moving to lynch me at all. The fact that they're still on the wagon makes me want to die.


There's bullshit somewhere. Why the flying 747 fuck are there 4 votes on me?


VOTE: Alchemist

Acid and Zach are scum

this morning I just threw up. reading this post gives me the same wonderful feeling.

Zach when caught up whaddya think of: syndesis, luv, torque, chill

see bottom spoiler

I kinda really don't like Uzi's posting this game though independent of the vote on me

it goes torque then tchill/syndesis in order of townier --> nulltownier but id be lying if I said I hadn't preflipped Alchemist red already

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I don't think Robb believes he was threatening to make the game unfun.

why wm / alch scum

going back to the pt and im going to think of how much words i can put this in to make people townread me for this read





(Their ISOs are scum.)

Why do you post so much

oh no is carca scum

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Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I thought he was joking

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I cant imagine you seriously believe this

Oh? Do you feel like you've been caught for the wrong reasons?

I thought this was joking too then I realized he was serious both times.

This is bullshit, the assumption he starts on is one that you have to "create" anyway. Then he just acts like that's actually what I did, then points a loaded question at me like I'm supposed to respond with anything but "that is terrible and utterly confusing"

Of course if you proceed like nothing actually happened, then the townies wont notice you being scum

Robbnva gets it.

Robbnva gets... what? He has a strict list of town and scum behavior and when you do one of those things that falls into either category, guess where that places you? Citing his stance is like an illusion, it does nothing to defend your position. It's sort of like an argument from authority.

Fluffy and uzi are Town

Please explain both cause I disagree

if you dont have at least a town lean on me youre probably not very good at playing with new people in general

im like level 1 towny because the game has never been "look as pro town as possible == town"

too pro-town looking often comes from scum

etc

if you think some sloppy stuff i say is scummy youre just bad

Why should anyone have a Townread on you at this point? Posts like these make it look like you just want to discredit any suspicion that comes your way.

VOTE: Fluffyrabbit

begs the question why should anyone townread anyone at this point?


also you did unvote after... so you really don't have any scumreads.. except..?

alchemist who are your other scum candidates as of right now

Nobody right now. I don't know most of y'all and there still isn't much to go on imo.

really

that's not what one would assume

at all...

I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing




iaafr is probably town at the moment. I think he's a bad day one lynch

So what's actually been scummy about my posts to you?

then he tops it off with this one, this is great. if the plan was to leave me silent in utter confusion at the circumstances taking place right now then you have succeeded


I don't really see how you townread any of that ISO

"tone" is a bad reason to read people in general

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if his rvs vote on me was rvs and not a genuine "scumread" there should have been opposition taken to me being a fucking L-3 wagon at any point, I'd think


towns normally react when something like that happens. except his read on me is now seemingly ambiguous

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im aggressive and emotional

lol

i can link you all my scumgames in which im aggressive and emotional in almost none

furthermore proactive, still trying to figure out other peoples alignments and reads, etc

I trust self-meta about as far as I can throw it.

Proactivity is a good thing but I don't think it solidifies you as obvTown here.

yiiikes



I mean the statement is correct but it doesn't sound natural at all

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WM's ISo isn't really that deep. After his first 6 posts which I won't even comment on, here's what we have in order if you go down



- here are some random town reads
- why are there so many pages
- iaafr(the guy being lynched at the time) is lynch-bait
-what does v mean
- "skims" alchemist ISo and arrives at.. light town? how sway
- another random townread
- makes a post where he.. actually explains a read! groundbreaking
- "acid and zach are scum" (this doesnt get explained)

What is town of that



Is the formula of playing scum make arguments from authority until you score mislynches now because confbias gets townread by people? This is all scummy shit and I would take WM over Alchemist right now.

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lol you asked her then she was like "aaa we i wavelength" and you said "lol or ur just lying ya scum fuck"


that's what I saw



and yeah you have been sorting but you really going hard in the wrong way. you probably playing for the opps




Get off me mf I've town told out the ass

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I mean that tone can be manipulated so it's completely fallible. I tend to not do "this guy is town because of tone"

generally i'd agree w the l-x thing(although probably less so l-3) but nobody reacted when i was trying to get a wagon on someone who hadn't even posted to l-1 so it just seems like nobody wants to

Confusing concept isnt it

don't see how saying "x gets it" on somebody who agrees w you is meaningful

In line with an agenda anything is meaningful. Clearly he wanted me lynched, right? If he didn't, wouldn't that still be questionable?

49 is maybe partially serious?

i don't think it's ever fully serious in rvs there

Escape hatch :/ That would be for him to establish, and it doesn't look like that was his intention

62 is serious but just bad-skill-read not bad-alignment-of-user-read

Dont know how you make the conclusion so easily


I know you guys have alch meta but eh

alch carca melas rabbit Robb
wm synd zach
chill
luv
torq dany

#cpdfrompt

speaking of dany you're posting elsewhere get in here

...aye thats a big ass town pool



dont obvtown Carcalmaouse please

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having carcalilly as a townread on day one is like robbing a bank with just bullets in your hand

[Zachstralkita]

I don't have alch meta lol I literally don't know him; see tone thing

only ppl itg I know are melas/rabbit/synde/sorta carca

sory i took to many flintstone vitamin before game

[Zachstralkita]

Carca actually has no scumreads







It's okay I'll bus her tomorrow




Townies should now proceed to lynch scum immediately

VOTE: WhyMafia

lmfaoooooo, I'm side-eying the shit out of Alchemist. Get ready for this vig bullet buddy

[Zachstralkita]

bye bye

[Zachstralkita]

we are having the farewell party... whymafia is .. taking.. an unexpected vacation

to rope city

[Zachstralkita]

I can townread the whole game if I want to

[Zachstralkita]

I think it is absolutely adorable you believe Carca spews town just cause she posts like Minnie Mouse's third grandchild

[Zachstralkita]

Carcalilly was instrumental if not completely central in the scumteam's success in large normal 205, she is an expert of strategic manipulative capabilities outlined by strategists like Sun Tzu and that one roman guy





definitely do not townread her presumed innocence, it will be tragic

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I'm bussing her on one of Day2 or 3, I was really just asking you to prepare in advance

[Zachstralkita]

Because... the big question I've been meaning to pose is

Can The Town Lynch Scum If acidphoenix Townreads The Entire Scum Team? (Players please answer with Yes/No)

1. iDanyboy
2. Tchill13
3. iamafluffyrabbit
4. awesome5000
5. Torque
6. Carcalilly
7. Zachstralkita - No
8. Lil Uzi Vert
9. WhyMafia
10. Syndesis
11. Robbnva -
12. Alchemist21 -




@Lil Uzi Vert why don't you townread me?

I've committed The Tell, haven't I?

[Zachstralkita]

fuck it this wasn't that hard to make i'll just remake it

alch carca melas rabbit Robb
wm synd zach
chill
luv dany
torq

asdf

current list straight out of pt

isnt this like the same and you have 2 changes

Zach is too low on this list, alchemist is so high I'm going to have to call the DEA and NASA

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Because... the big question I've been meaning to pose is

Can The Town Lynch Scum If acidphoenix Townreads The Entire Scum Team? (Players please answer with Yes/No)

1. iDanyboy
2. Tchill13
3. iamafluffyrabbit
4. awesome5000
5. Torque
6. Carcalilly
7. Zachstralkita - No
8. Lil Uzi Vert
9. WhyMafia
10. Syndesis
11. Robbnva -
12. Alchemist21 -




@Lil Uzi Vert why don't you townread me?

I've committed The Tell, haven't I?

Don't you think I'm scum? Why are you showing interest in wanting to find out why I don't town read you?

And what tell?

This is a bad response. Treating players like they are or could be town isn't even AI or questionable.

I'm showing interest in wanting to find out why you don't town read me because I'm obviously town and you're ignoring the fact which leads me to believe you're scum as I've been your push this game... Stonewall me if you want to?






Also, it doesn't really matter who townreads Carca. I thought there was some magical rule in place that said scum couldn't get strongarmed but then I realize that doesn't exist.

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yes zach is very town hes a very town guy

[Zachstralkita]

Because... the big question I've been meaning to pose is

Can The Town Lynch Scum If acidphoenix Townreads The Entire Scum Team? (Players please answer with Yes/No)

1. iDanyboy
2. Tchill13
3. iamafluffyrabbit
4. awesome5000
5. Torque
6. Carcalilly
7. Zachstralkita - No
8. Lil Uzi Vert
9. WhyMafia
10. Syndesis
11. Robbnva -
12. Alchemist21 -




@Lil Uzi Vert why don't you townread me?

I've committed The Tell, haven't I?

Don't you think I'm scum? Why are you showing interest in wanting to find out why I don't town read you?

And what tell?

This is a bad response. Treating players like they are or could be town isn't even AI or questionable.

I'm showing interest in wanting to find out why you don't town read me because I'm obviously town and you're ignoring the fact which leads me to believe you're scum as I've been your push this game... Stonewall me if you want to?






Also, it doesn't really matter who townreads Carca. I thought there was some magical rule in place that said scum couldn't get strongarmed but then I realize that doesn't exist.

I'm a little confused.

There is no such thing as obvious town. There also isn't any flips, interactions to analyze, or a role claimed that makes you probably town. What am I missing?

pedit lol dont say I did a trust tell. Apparently I have a running "scum" tell that I'm unaware of

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Live by your sword and die by mine.

ALSO still pt for sale

hmu

[Zachstralkita]

sup

had a long day and just got home to read something very disturbing so I don't have time to deal with mafia right now. I will be v/la for the weekend cause i need a complete break from this site right now. There is a chance i may replace out but hopefully I won't have to.

vote isn't changing though.

I actually hope you're not referring to where I shaded Alchemist for using your quote cause that was my hunch

[Zachstralkita]

Can The Town Lynch Scum If acidphoenix Townreads The Entire Scum Team? (Players please answer with Yes/No)

1. iDanyboy
2. Tchill13
3. iamafluffyrabbit -

No

4. awesome5000
5. Torque
6. Carcalilly -

Obstructing justice

7. Zachstralkita -

No

8. Lil Uzi Vert -

Obstructing Justice

9. WhyMafia
10. Syndesis
11. Robbnva -
12. Alchemist21 -

Updated

[Zachstralkita]

i never said no

im a game winner zach i get scum lynched

theres only one wagon you can be on right now to win the game and u not making it happen

also zach iaafr says "depends on other town"

May the jury note that this is

not

a yes or no answer, as such I took several liberties with it

[Zachstralkita]

theres only one wagon you can be on right now to win the game and u not making it happen

i am in the cold feet / hesitant mindset still

luckily mafiascum games have absolutely ridiculous phase lengths so i can say ill commit later

This game is going to get to like ninety pages and then there's going to be a mislynch Day 1


This is how Normals with high volume posters end up usually


As such we should commit earlier, there's no real reason to lollygag

Uzi Vertical must be destroyed.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach based on that

it's looking like pt isnt gonna be sold to you til n2

UNVOTE: VOTE: idany

going to spend the night in isolation crying my eyes out ty

[Zachstralkita]

gg uzi I have cast away my soul in this game you now are free to claim it with the rope

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: WhyMafia

[Zachstralkita]

Townies join me on WhyMafia, specifically those on the Uzi wagon. We will alternate between the two wagons until someone dies.

[Zachstralkita]

This is kinda bothering me, but idk how relevant this is. But acid, how do you have a PT?

whymafia i think at this point it should be fairly obvious what i'm softing w the pt thing

You might as well hard claim the part you're softing then bc mafia would've figured it out by now but town may not have. I have my suspicions, but mafia benefit more from constant softing

He says this after directly pointing out your soft before in a pretty awkward manner. I have my suspicions.

[Zachstralkita]

Is too scummy to be scum true?

only because people have a lot of shitty reasons to scumread people

and usually the people who do all of them and do them a lot are town

Sometimes but not always. The Carcalilly Theory is the direct counter to this.

This is kinda bothering me, but idk how relevant this is. But acid, how do you have a PT?

whymafia i think at this point it should be fairly obvious what i'm softing w the pt thing

You might as well hard claim the part you're softing then bc mafia would've figured it out by now but town may not have. I have my suspicions, but mafia benefit more from constant softing

He says this after directly pointing out your soft before in a pretty awkward manner. I have my suspicions.

I have no idea what you're trying to say

That you're scum? It's not town to point out softs then say "mafia know what you're claiming, but you need to claim so that town can do it too." It was quite evident he'd been softing something since he's been talking about a PT. I don't know what there was to figure out.

[Zachstralkita]

i forgot a possibility

zach and uzi are bussing each other / distancing in a crazy way to give the winner of the thunderdome cred

pretty unlikely...?

Pretty unlikely considering I'm Town. This is cute, though.

what's the carcalilly theory

It says too scum to be scum is scum and it's that simple.

[Zachstralkita]

I would prefer (carcalilly, LUV, Alch

WHYMAFIA

)

[Zachstralkita]

Why were you voting me, Lily? Why am I town?

[Zachstralkita]

Lmao it's going to be entertaining watching Clilly try to not be scum for a few days

[Zachstralkita]

Surely, surely should I fall, the hero iDanyboy has nailed the scum team and will carry on the fight for justice. You can kill a man but can't kill a legacy.

[Zachstralkita]

I must now admit that there is a small percentile chance of acidphoenix and iamafluffyrabbit powerscumming the game, but only a probability.

[Zachstralkita]

I shouldn't have left Uzi wagon, but it's kind of fascinating to watch him consistently bluff.

[Zachstralkita]

Like the degree to which he does is actually astounding.

[Zachstralkita]

The joke's on me this game, I guess. That's the reachiest scum case anyone has ever made on me. I'm pretty sure if you just let me, I'd have naturally acted scummier than what you produced there.

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone not on Uzi or WhyMafia should consolidate to those two wagons.

[Zachstralkita]

wow

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Uzi


Syndesis and Tchill will never forsake me.

[Zachstralkita]

rabbit, ascend to the heavens and lead the town to victory. the more you hesitate to vote uzi ,the closer our deaths near.



acidphoenix still thinks that we can convert the scum back to town, that's probably why he townreads them.

[Zachstralkita]

Not even a week into the Day and he's pushing to attempt to end it

Long Day 1s are bad buddy usually unproductive and a breeding ground for scum to act like they did shit.



You're lucky I'm just letting you slightly doubtcast me in all of your posts. It's only because I have faith in this town at the moment to lynch you and your comrades.

[Zachstralkita]

Like yo life span in this game

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Uzi


Syndesis and Tchill will never forsake me.

EDIT
I'm blind. I was looking at the vote count quoted

Keep playing with me I promise

[Zachstralkita]

At worst it should just be used to sort if you're town. You're L-4, too.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not talking about your wagon itself, I'm talking about the actions of individual players that serve to demoralize you so much.

Anyways, the push on me is rather weak still.

whymaf looked towny on page 31

which irritates me because i lack scumreads again

if whymaf and luv are both town then maybe zach is the scum here after all

i think ive said this kind of thing verbatim before

You have like nine times

[Zachstralkita]

if you want you can lynch him anyway and one of us will get to tell the other I fucking told you so

but I'd prefer a scumlynch over vindication

do you have a high confidence scumlynch yet

because i have serious cold feet on the 2 that zach are pushing but dont wanna lynch zach either

People who have cold feet are usually found in a morgue :/

[Zachstralkita]

zzzzzzz what's the purpose of me derailing an l-4? How is that obstructing you solving?



My other lynch is whymafia who you won't lynch either

[Zachstralkita]

Oh I'm garbage lol I just thought I could lynch scum real quick





But I'm happy to actually sheep you given game gets easier to solve later in game and also lock town you for ???



Who must I slay with my vote

[Zachstralkita]

I'm wrecking scum. I'm just surrounded by people who can't be fucked to take a step back and think.

Need u to stop it G sring me is not wrecking

i just stared at zachs iso this game again for awhile

then i looked at whymaf because he pushed whymaf hardest

i still wanna say hes town and whymaf/alch might be the scum

like i read zach and i read whymaf side by side and what zach posts just makes so much more sense to me, and also feels way bolder and solvier

not a very convincing case i might do a bigger one later

the realtime town vibes i got from whymaf cooled kinda hard

so

id rather vote whymaf than zach at this point

gun to my head, uzi/zach is TvT rn

lets lynch wm I guess , Uzi has no qualms about lamist or ate

[Zachstralkita]

in a vacuum everything up to whatever number looks like the epitome of a shitty mislynch bait player imo

Yeah but he's not really shitty or mislynch bait so?

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: WhyMafia

Help with the bus Uzi

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi your scum read sucks bredrin, if acidphoenix gave me a pt I would like, use it to write a case on myself and then tomorrow I would post it here and you would sheep me on myself and I might actually die from that




js we know towns suck but we dont really want to hear that if you town getting mislynched bro we dont care. Fuck do u think I want to say when I get l3'd for no decent reason LOL

If everyone else isn't interested in Zach, what about Syndesis?

Another bad lynch tbqh Syndesis is someone you suggest at deadline as a compromise

[Zachstralkita]

I mean if no one is going to care than I won't either. My care level is at 10 percent right now and if it goes to 0 I'll just replace out or get mislynched and laugh in the dead thread as town get swept.

Yeah it kinda blows me you think I'm one of the scum here though so



Like bro when I say I'm not readable I don't mean that shit for a joke


I actually dont really mean it to even be true but I think it will have to be



Of your actual pool the only person Id ever consider lynching there given what they've posted is Dany

Anyways if you rolled scum in this game take solace in the fact that you'll probably be able to finesse me by doigng anything emotional

[Zachstralkita]

"ever" as in on Day 1

[Zachstralkita]

Let's lynch WhyMafia pals

[Zachstralkita]

with your given list how did you flip from Zach to syndesis

and not dany or alch

I have only 3 scum reads.

Dany, Syndesis, and Zach.

Man said the whole scum team is on his fucking wagon. Holy shit, I want to drink bubble soap through my fucking eyelids.

I'm more unreadable than you man

ok


you're doing a shitty job at reading me cuzzo

[Zachstralkita]

You blowing my high b LMAOOO we gotta have a condition that you cant talk about town losing when we play you gloomy motherfucker

[Zachstralkita]

uzi if i were to get shot in the ankle: " look like he dead"

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi when we shoot him in the ankle: "we all dead"

[Zachstralkita]

You blowing my high b LMAOOO we gotta have a condition that you cant talk about town losing when we play you gloomy motherfucker

There are people much worst

obv I'm just saying you're the only person I know who roll town and the second something happen go " yea its a L" that shit is wild

towns get better by playing the game




i dont think theres a way to save how awful i am but its actually the thought that counts


Lily the savior!

still on uzi because no one else really appeals right now

but but



but

[Zachstralkita]

Bro I realized birds don't exactly have hands so when they be eating shit and it drops from their beak man they don't even go for that shit if it falls from a height they just look at it

[Zachstralkita]

I'll deadass case WM tonight. When I broke his ISO into bullet points, it was not to show how town he was but I realize that's insufficient in several ways.

[Zachstralkita]

NAI is not objective by the way. Shit is only NAI after considering context, too.

[Zachstralkita]

She locktowns me, but doesn't want to lynch any of my scumreads.






oh you just take pleasure in seeing me suffer

[Zachstralkita]

iaafr is absolutely hilarious

[Zachstralkita]

melas off like of his tone / opener / recently push on robb, esp compared to meta

carca because of outstanding tone + jokey humor that from experience/gut is >95% town

alch I believe I already have; I can make the case again w iso but I'd rather not

Christ you've got some generous stats

[Zachstralkita]

Spoiler:

ok so apparently i actually have to do this


The first 7 posts in WhyMafia's ISO can be argued to be NAI so I'll even give you those.

Fluffy and uzi are Town

if you dont explain your townreads do you expect people to credit them or do you just know your comments are air

Wtf 16 pages. Mulch you liar

I mean this post doesnt even mean anything but you know what the playerlist posts like so there was no cause for genuine surprise

dont think Fluffy is a worthwhile lynch Day 1. He seems like prime mis-lynch bait and despite havi bad posts, I think he's genuine

let me pop in and defend against the wagon that's happening right now with a vague townread. You call him mislynch bait but in the previous sentence you say you don't think he's "worthwhile".. are you lynching to find scum?

Just skimmed alch, and I'm comfortable with a light town read on him

Here's a post that gives us the impression WhyMafia has analysis and reasoning to support townreading alchemist based on his own read, but he doesn't actually say by what metric he arrived at his conclusions

TChill seems Town as well

another random tr

I think Torque is town as well. His case isnt bad, I just disagree with his conclusions. However, I'll let alch defend himself to see what he says. Additionally, torque seems to be transparent and making his thoughts quite clear and precise, which I like. There's probably a better way of phrasing that but idk xd

he finally explains a read here

Acid and Zach are scum

Yeah, Zach has been moved to lean town. Still not entirely comfortable with him, but I guess it'll resolve as time passes by. Willing to go awesome/Acid. For now I'll go VOTE: Acid

Progression not explained for sudden townread- he didn't really have to, it's not really safe for scum to push me hard

speaking of dany you're posting elsewhere get in here

This seems so LAMIST and fake ..

lso why is the portion of your scumread that you feel a need to bring up a portion that didn't exist when it started being a read

Because more content means more ways to support my read

if you had ever posted your original reasons that would be a valid point

but you haven't so ????

It doesn't become invalid though so ????

someone bring iaafr to l-1 y/y

robbnva if you could dayvig somebody rn who would it be

This pinged me hard. Why would you want someone to jokingly be brought to L-1. Additionally, there's no point in asking for the biggest scum read in like the third page of the game. It just makes you seem like someone willing to game solve, when there's nothing really to do at that point.

Robb I mean if you're not adapting your definition of scummy is basically guaranteed to not be correct

This pinged me as a subtle discredit and notion that you wont listen to his reads anymore. Why would you need to adapt a definition of scummy? Someone doing something "scummy" is always opinionated anyways ..

see the above self meta + just this post never comes from scum!iaafr

also just generally most scum would be less antagonistic, plus he's actually tossing out reads even if some are less than ai

This is just gut, but this gives me a feeling that you already know Fluffy's alignment.

I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing

a. ?????? how
b. okay but do you want to Lynch him more
c. why not move your vote off w_m then

Another gut feel. This could've just been summed up with "why?" Yet he goes on this 3 point list awaiting answers. Seems forced. Additionally, point C rubs me the wrong way in that it could be a planted association. Especially considering you already scum read me.

syndesis name 1 town and 1 scum read

rabbit not an option for either

Again, seems LAMIST

Anyways, there were my main things that first came to mind on why i have a SR on you

l-1 rvses are the best smh
also forcing people to say something game relevant means the game actually moves into people being game relevant faster

I found your analysis's lacking though ... and L-1 RVS'S aren't the best, especially if someone Lolhammers or town accidentally hammers

only 99.9%, not 100

?

I put three different points because there were three things I disliked on the post: sring alch, the 'i Sr this guy but eh other guy is interesting', and the fact that he had multiple scumreads he was willing to outright state but stayed on smth old instead

Idk, this still rubs me the wrong way

if people change how they play as alignments then that necessarily changes what it means to be scummy

I feel like this is grasping for straws. Acting scummy is acting scummy. It's all opinionated. I don't get why you're making a fuss over that

His SR on acid is really bad. All of it. Surface level scumhunting that he doesn't commit to in his language, it's all "Idk.." and "it seems like"

And on other news Zach continues to show me his skills in pushing people

I don't even know what this means. My skills are only lacking because I haven't cased you. But you saw how I can push people when I mislynched you last game and you didn't even scumread me while it was happening.

Why do I even have to exert time going through a bunch of scumposting? I'm actually not going further


Whymafia rolefished acid because "mafia already saw the soft" and is now lynching him. It makes no sense.


he makes no mention of acids role being part of why acid is scum as of right now


He has set up a push on acidphoenix early game he's only committing to his (fake) reads

Not to mention the fact that he has me back as scum now because he's been allowed to not have accountability for his play



All townies like to do is play the only my reads matter game, it's why scum never gets lynched

nah

Using tone as a primary reason to townhunt people sucks. It's like the second easiest thing for scum to manipulate.

I guess I'll see if Clilly actually starts scumming hard then see who whiteknights her then but that's not necessary right now

[Zachstralkita]

In before someone says I scumslipped.

[Zachstralkita]

If Uzi can get to L-4 and become demoralized and apathetic for no good reason and you guys consider that passable, you can't imagine how I'm going to make you all townread me if you wagon me. I was going to call iaafr's prgression on me dubious or uh.. made up, but I'm sure he's just misguided.

[Zachstralkita]

sorry when my hero voted me i sort of lost my marbles







though not that i've ever really had them

[Zachstralkita]

Wm scum claimed bro

[Zachstralkita]

OH MY LORD

[Zachstralkita]

The Real Townies Must Help Me Vanquish The Scum Threat

[Zachstralkita]

Whymafia going to catch that severe smoke. He has no explanation for how he got his life finessed away last game, yet this game he has "caught" me. With no progression or play-based reads. He offers doubtcasting of my statements, no difficult. It goes without saying that his scum read on me doesn't really exist. I'm taking you to a magical place... this is..

the advanced WIFOM section

That is absolutely a scum wall. I'm not going to go point for point and just get talked to in circles. It's up to the rest of you to decide to lynch WM. Fight the good fight.

[Zachstralkita]

The narrative you've crafted is a good show. Bread and circuses.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Zachstralkita

You did it. I hope it turns out to be everything you envisoned when they sold you that dream. Or maybe you sold it to yourself. Was your end goal complete and utter destruction of all that is decent? Well we're almost there, pal. You sold your soul and with that you traded every last bit of this town's innocence and hope. There may be no more bullshit wagon that has existed in the span of history than does on me at this moment. If I am to die a martyr, then remember my words and also those told in the scripture of iDanyboy.

fuck it im sheeping WM all game and there's nothing anyone can do to stop me
VOTE: zach

What happens in the darkness shall come to light.

One of these is definitely wrong. Help me vanquish fluffy and I'll maybe help you vanquish one of these.

Those are townies. WhyMafia is the prime scum threat. He must go first.

[Zachstralkita]

When someone else sees how disingenuous WM's posting is hmu

[Zachstralkita]

i need a town buddy in this game


cd you want to volunteer


would probably require you to unvote me

[Zachstralkita]

Well there's no reason to scumread me. I imagine playing scum, you have to create it and they're doing a decent job so far.

But there's a process to getting townread in this game and it involves either AtE, calling things NAI, or just doubtcasting your opposition in a semi-decent manner.

Zach. You keep going back and forth between uzi and why

What's the short and sweet version of why they are scum.

He doesn't have one because his whole case was proven t be bullshit

Like this post here.

[Zachstralkita]

The thing is, I proved him wrong. He has refused to dignify my counter with a response. So he continues with these statements without any actual effort

yes we can act like I'm not giving any effort because your "masterful scumhunting" has left me with no adequate response, but the truth with the current gamestate I could wager doing twice the work to tell you why your wall is a scum wall isn't going to produce a lynch. I'm happy letting you bluff on me so just keep going.

HEY

ZACH

you still want the pt

torque is being mean

Nah im good bro the only thing I desire is the sweet release of death

[Zachstralkita]

Lynches happen when a majority does. What's "happening today" is either a scum line or an indication of a shitty gamestate.

Whymafia case when I get home, but who cares.

[Zachstralkita]

Lynches happen when a majority does. What's "happening today" is either a scum line or an indication of a shitty gamestate.

Whymafia case when I get home, but who cares.

you are probably going to get lynched just cause time runs out. I've asked why twice for a condensed version of his case cause his wall is too much for me yo follow and he hasn't responded to them.

I don't see anyone else making a good case either.

If you condense shit it is still shit. I'll get to the flaws in his wall when I post about it.

[Zachstralkita]

The things you be calling scumclaims usually aren't tho :/

[Zachstralkita]

The things you be calling scumclaims usually aren't tho :/

So it's town to say "the person I want lynched isn't going to get lyched unless something drastic happens, but I'm not going to try and convince people to lynch them"?

Actions VS Motivations for actions

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think he jneeded to start it, I think he inferred that if we were to do something about Clilly being scum we'd have to do something about her defense squad





She's admittedly not a good D1 lynch either way but if I assume she's town I'm going to assume that she's WKing scum so.. I don't want to get into that right now. There's far better scum

if you can recognize it's unproductive beforehand it's still nice

accurate or otherwise

and given I'm top posting and have shown no indication of carca from locktown...

No one man can save anyone, if the opposition tries hard enough.

[Zachstralkita]

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." —Exodus 22:18

The time to start panicking begins now, scum team. There's an outside chance(of about two- three percent) in which I'm wrong here, in which case, woo-hoo. You rolled scum and breezed through Day 1. Are you expecting Most Cunning Manipulator? Great. I intend to lynch WM. Anyone sensible should join me.



Anyways. I guess the problem with scum making wallposts is that they're scum making wallposts.

I'll do this point by point then overall tell you why it's a scumpost. I just took pictures so I didn't have to quote shit, so if you can't see it then just go to his post. Or open the image itself.

Spoiler:

Point 1 - This is a scumline in several ways, bud. "Why didn't you do x at this time" is what scum say to create an illusion of guilt. You're trying to push a burden on me that doesn't exist.

When are naked reads indicative? When they're the majority of what you post. When you "town" those receiving pressure with no explanation but act like it's okay. The rest of your post is conjecture and you end it with WIFOM. I don't care what I should think you would do or whatever you claim I should. What you're doing right now is obviously working well enough.


Point 2 - I don't get whatever you've interpreted from my statement. The post in question is you complaining about there being a lot of pages. With a PL of some known hyperposters, some that you've played with, I wouldn't have seen fit to complain in the first place. I said as much that it didn't mean anything.


Point 3 - Lot of words for no reason. I don't think you're lynching to find scum. I guess the pivotal point of this would be because you are scum, but whatever.

Spoiler:

Your mistake here is throwing a cop-out answer in my face and acting like you can make me look stupid because you casually ignore that it is, clearly, a cop-out answer. I'm not too surprised that everyone else ignores you scumposting, but this gamestate is scum-dominated about 60/40. Congrats, you've capitalized on making scum play appear townie. Good move. You explain away all your phantom townreads in this manner.

Spoiler:

Is it discrediting when your discrediting is completely overt? The answer is yes.


Your acidphoenix sr is pretty fake. Normally when you scumread someone for the claim you don't do it so casually. You normally say that you don't believe their claim. Instead you just flowed past all of that and got to "yeah scum neighborizer is a good role" which isn't what we were talking about.

Spoiler:

It was fake protowning. You were trying to create the illusion his role was shrouded in mystery and rolefished him, then your visible progression on him didn't include his role until "scum neighborizer is a good role" or along the lines. When someone says pt and they're not joking, they're either claiming mason or neighborizer. There was nothing to be discovered. If the soft is blatant to where mafia knows, then you asking them to claim only confirms information for mafia. You know this and you can't act like you don't. If there are town who couldn't pick up on "blatant softs" then it's probably better they didn't know anyway.



Nothing in the rest of that wall is of any substance besides you doubtcasting or just acting LAMIST. I've covered everything worth mentioning. The entire post is just "here's how I can stretch your points and tell you I'm town." It isn't hard to do considering I wasn't being very adequate before.

You don't have a convincing scum case on me because your fabrication would be pretty obvious. You aren't actually pushing me further because you need me to post against you so you can doubtcast me, but you don't even need to get your hands that dirty for that.

[Zachstralkita]

Except, my reasons are NAI.

Or WhyMafia is just

town

.




These types of defenses shouldn't be recognized as adequate defenses or acceptable ones. If you want to end up in lategame and not hit scum, there's how.


There's unfortunately a discernible difference between being town, NAI, and just writing shit off with such reasons to excuse scummy behavior. Scum fails when the right people know how to make the distinction.

[Zachstralkita]

If we're going to use NAI as a buzzword this game and give scum free agency, guess what anyone's future past and present reason for scumreading me is about to become?

[Zachstralkita]

all WM is going to do is talk in circles. Not sure what you want me to do if you don't want to lynch scum






The vote sucks btw

[Zachstralkita]

Not my god damned fault this game is the twilight zone. I can't tell who the town helping scum is and who is just the town. Whoever is "annoyed" atm at this gamestate is really cute.

Sheep me today. I don't have a lot of people to ask.

[Zachstralkita]

Please present me your scum cases because I don't know what scummy behavior is.

Eh, cases. Behavior is often unpredictable, but my general biggest thing to go on is "looking" town.

Lol

[Zachstralkita]

You want to lynch me now.

The townies in this game are the townies who don't share my scumreads and the townies who scumread me. I'm inclined to interact with the latter group even less than I have with the former, which is close to none. There's no real case on me so I can't say anything but


"you are full of shit"


But I'm waiting for a case to arrive on me. I have a secret weapon!

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not a fan of the oh god towns suck angle no matter how true it is cause it's defeatist and promotes apathy. Nevermind that I am one of the worst town players


But I guess it makes sense why you're on the same wagon as Uzi

its nai to recognize when an endeavor is unproductive and cease it

when the person hasn't even started the endeavor yet...

who was this about cd

i mean i tried to lynch carca earlier it didnt really do anything so i dont really blame him for not trying. id like to feel your sentiment but i cant cause he was just smarter than me

[Zachstralkita]

Tchill, I refuse to buy that shit. You're scumclaiming if you think I was actually softing anything.

But I'm waiting for a case to arrive on me. I have a secret weapon!

I feel like this statement is made to discourage/make me wary of a case on you
Like why would you hint this before an actual case

Can you stop scumposting? We know I'm getting lynched, you don't have to overexert yourself.

[Zachstralkita]

You're scumclaiming if you think I was actually softing anything.

well that's stupid because I thought you were as well...

You're scumclaiming if you think I was actually softing anything.

well that's stupid because I thought you were as well...

^

how stupid am I actually to soft venge or dayvig

the town play is to shut up and hit scum which you know i think i'd be capable of doing if i had that role






pretty sure tchill is scum for how he approached it

but whymafia has never stopped being scum

Zach just wants to intimidate people lul

I mean that sort of how it feels to me as well. Trying to scare people from lynching him.

Okay, whatever. This isn't close to me being aggressive

Yes deterring your own townlynch is scummy lol. Bye robb

[Zachstralkita]

Yes deterring your own townlynch is scummy lol. Bye robb

What is your counterpoint? There's no good case for me being scum but I have a solid wagon. I'm not going to make up a narrative to defend against, whymafia or someone else is going to do that part.





pedit oh, okay.

But I'm waiting for a case to arrive on me. I have a secret weapon!

this doesn't imply vengeful or day vig? It just implies non-VT role

what is the basis of your semantics argument anyway

softing anything for no reason is dumb

[Zachstralkita]

great he made up a scumISO for me

softing anything for no reason is dumb

but softing to scare people from lynching you isn't which is basically what you were doing

which is basically what i wasn't doing as much as you'd like it to be

[Zachstralkita]

My wagon's scum driven. That's why I don't have a foothold here.

[Zachstralkita]

My wagon's scum driven. That's why I don't have a foothold here.

LmFaO keep saying that

If they don't lynch you immediately after I flip then town can lose so.. idc






VT by the way stop lynching me

[Zachstralkita]

hopefully I will have more evidence that one of my scum reads are confirmed scum and we can lynch them instead of venge lynching Whymafia for scum reading a scummy player.

I try to defend the way you play but I'm not even going to do that anymore. At all.



It's not a venge lynch. He's obv scum.

last ditch effort for me to pull out of this

please one request just stop the emojis as you kill me they hurt too much

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

Speed this one up. Tchill is a vanity wagon at this point acid jsyk even if he is scum or not


I'll give reads if you L-1 me but it won't be that surprising. Tempted to CW Uzi. Maybe I will later if I care.

[Zachstralkita]

acid it's not that difficult for scum to drive a 1v1 into the ground, especially Day One. It usually gets them townread. WM's scumread on me almost certainly isn't real.

Misrepping is an art and if you're decent at it, townies just get annoyed defending.



You're probably one of the only people that can swing a lynch for Town vote-wise. so...

Why would hopelessly argue with someone that you think is town if you're town? What's the point? To show them they're wrong? That's not going to happen here. Yall have argued enough. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly certain that you've stated you thought robbvna was town. How am I supposed to look at the useless bickering and go "oh acidpheonix is town with good intentions here."

Town has to work together to lynch scum. If that wasn't happening, how is the issue supposed to be solved if not through at least attempting to talk? Through silence? What other great solutions do you have for everyone? So far you've been doubtcasting acid and locking me scum for... ???

[Zachstralkita]

It was rather evident Robb is town

Was he ever really being seriously pushed

[Zachstralkita]

Scum PT's probably relaxing.

[Zachstralkita]

Your contribution isn't pro town. It's only to devalue acid/Robb interaction as useless which even if it may be, you're still not contributing anything. Only giving the illusion of doing so. Besides a vote on me stemming from logic that I'm sure will be made to make sense as long as it suits your purposes.


TvTs aren't anything new in games.

[Zachstralkita]

You imply it's an SvT with acid as scum. Your reads certainly align with that, but you interact with ap like you're being reasonable. So, it's an SvT. To what end then? I can't see one He's not even voting Robb. Creating noise in the thread without achieving some sort of objective is a net negative for scum for obvious reasons. Competent scum anticipate the town to be intelligent.



It only makes sense if it's acid/fluffy are scum at all. Which I think is bullshit. I think you're probably voting me cause you'd rather not commit to that? If you're town this is kinda a little bad .

[Zachstralkita]

Syndesis/acid/cd don't want to help me lynch wm?

[Zachstralkita]

tchill ur going down in my eyes
whymafy what do you think of Zach's VT claim?

Hard for me to tr you when you ask questions that are literal oxygen

im not backing out of my town read on synde or even close

just zach is slightly higher at the moment

Zach bout to be real fucking high when they send my soul to the other world


thanks for your help bud

[Zachstralkita]

Why are you "would rather just" tchill when we have two days until I get lynched and you acknowledged you don't have support for your wagon of choice


Are we strongarming Uzi or something? Do I have to procure a fucking gunsmith vanilla cop napoleon guilty for people to scumread whymafia?

Whats the name of the ice cream? Neapolitan

lol has the tear in your avatar always been there?

Thats recent lmfao it's the aesthetic I've been missing

[Zachstralkita]

Upper sentence @acid

[Zachstralkita]

If you two are looking for great support, I'd wholeheartedly support either of your votes if they happened to be on Syndesis.

Shitty day one lynch. You're trying to lynch a glorified inactive as opposed to more content posters. No diss to Syn. You're just a terrible lynch today.


Also tchill voted there just now which is absolutely hilarious.

because im holding the futile hope somebody follows

fair enough anyway so VOTE: luv

join you shortly probably. dayvigging you tonight cause you didn't sheep me correctly

[Zachstralkita]

Everyone in the game scumreads me and whoever doesn't doesn't really townread me enough to defend me apparently. Acid is a safe mislynch target for scum.

If you two are looking for great support, I'd wholeheartedly support either of your votes if they happened to be on Syndesis.

Shitty day one lynch. You're trying to lynch a glorified inactive as opposed to more content posters. No diss to Syn. You're just a terrible lynch today.

My case on Syndesis has nothing to do with her inactivity. It has to do with the content of her posts and how they're presented as-previously-described.

which is an argument based on not contributing shit inside those same posts, is it?

[Zachstralkita]

>dayvigging

>night

Zach.......

I'm nightvigging you toDay

No the Awesome slot is a glorified inactive.

Stopped clock is right twice a day.

If you two are looking for great support, I'd wholeheartedly support either of your votes if they happened to be on Syndesis.

Shitty day one lynch. You're trying to lynch a glorified inactive as opposed to more content posters. No diss to Syn. You're just a terrible lynch today.

My case on Syndesis has nothing to do with her inactivity. It has to do with the content of her posts and how they're presented as-previously-described.

which is an argument based on not contributing shit inside those same posts, is it?

No, it isn't. All of her posts have very little content in them and feel incredibly awkward. She's saying next-to-nothing in almost all of her posts and all of them feel incredibly forced. What does that have to do with inactivity?

her playstyle simply isn't a content dense one imo. how they "feel" is subjective to you and whoever else scumreads her for that.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Uzi Vert


Let's get the momentum and see if it sticks. Torque's VLA ends when our deadline does and no one wants to lynch WhyMafia.

[Zachstralkita]

But if people would lynch Tchill I'd have no problem with joining acid back there.

[Zachstralkita]

ihu acid

[Zachstralkita]

I'm glad you won't have enough votes for your shitty ml bro

[Zachstralkita]

I don't get why Torque keeps switching back to WhyMafia when he seems to want me lynched more. I'd get it if he was doing what I'm doing with my LUV vote and just supporting his Townreads but the last time seemed more like a placeholder and at a time when a vote on WM was as good as a vote on me. I'm pretty sure Torque flips red. Anyone else up for lynching him?

Yeah let's lynch the guy who's VLA til our deadline while he's VLA. You sound like you should be on the Syndesis wagon. Great minds think alike and what not.


Through detective work I've found out that he may have switched because no one else besides him was on your wagon. Not highly unreasonable. A player or two has taken that approach with their scumreads.

[Zachstralkita]

I think Syndesis is a classic mislynch. I am not a "classic" mislynch, but I'm still town. I'm the "defies reason" mislynch. Probably why I'm not happening because the people pushing me didn't work hard enough.

[Zachstralkita]

give him 9 pull up with them subs quicker than jimmy johns

[Zachstralkita]

dany your avatar is the face I make every time I see one of uzi or whymafia posts

VOTE: zach

Tchill more like Twill this guy ever make a fucking good vote

[Zachstralkita]

Why is Zach essentially calling me scum and not voting me at the start of the game as well scum reading me for not thinking he's obvious town paper thin?

Because it was RVS and I think your reading too much into it.
Calling you scum for not seeing he is 'obvtown' is something I've seen other players say, I don't understand it so I don't try to sort that behavior. If you find that scummy you have a point for scum reading him but is it not something you see town say?

Not like this no.

^ ^ ^ This what happen when u take Advil PM during the daytime

[Zachstralkita]

They're not lynching whymafia torque and they're not going to

I'm not a miracle worker. He's gotten himself townread

[Zachstralkita]

They're not lynching whymafia torque and they're not going to

I'm not a miracle worker. He's gotten himself townread

Thanks for the obvious Zacky

My vote doesn't do shit apparently so I'm just gonna keep my vote here and go click circles thanks

vote uzi please sir

you have to understand the other options are me or a no lynch both are horrendous

wm has to be resolved when the town isnt on crack

[Zachstralkita]

wait does this not run plurality

It is always Majority lynch unless otherwise stated

[Zachstralkita]

"Zach is not happening" You scared to push me hard buddy all your talk is complete air


You've had the whole day to kill me and have spent most of it (faking) doing so

[Zachstralkita]

fuck it there's 2 days left
i'll vote uzi if i have to

I don't really see why the hell town decide to not work together then complain about lynches at deadline like it's anyone's fault but your own, meanwhile scum just have to act in the exact same miserable fashion. easy as pie


exactly how we got decently solidly fucked in gold miner


Vote me if you're not going to vote Uzi this is a waste of time

"Zach is not happening" You scared to push me hard buddy all your talk is complete air


You've had the whole day to kill me and have spent most of it (faking) doing so

lmfao
unlike you I'm actually trying to get a scum lynch through

jeez you are rather confident with the scumposting

[Zachstralkita]

"Zach is not happening" You scared to push me hard buddy all your talk is complete air


You've had the whole day to kill me and have spent most of it (faking) doing so

lmfao
unlike you I'm actually trying to get a scum lynch through

When people posts anti town stuff there's reason to believe they're scum aka Zach.

Tchill resoundingly says this while his ISO is about as productive as a piece of celery





carcalilly/syn/torque/acidphoenix are pontius pilating this game right now


carca prolly scum on the low tho

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach you aren't wrong but I'm feeling pretty hateful quite frankly, please be patient
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Sorry I've had a bad day today

I shouldnt even be going this hard considering Im Vt but no ones even really town cased me once at all in this game this is weird


If this greens Alchemist is a good choice

If it reds Alchemist is still a good choice

I haven't posted blatant anti town stuff. We're on page 70 day 1 and still don't have enough to lynch anyone. I'm not going to produce some magical BS at this point in the day phase. Zach is scum and the reason zach's lynch hasn't went through is because his scum buddies don't want to bus.

are you talking about my softclaim that i told you wasnt a softclaim that you lock scummed me for cause it was convenient



are you talking about the several "anti-town" posts in my I- oh I don't believe they exist in the capacity you claim they do. I don't buy your scumread or your apathy. Yep, your apathy and not the town's. Scum not bussing at risk of impending no lynch looks AWKWARD AS FUCK so I don't buy that you actually believe that. I have no clue how a town Tchill has been approaching this game so going to assume you're a secret traitor


because scum is too easy

Torque if you scum read Alch to that degree, you shouldn't be on the same wagon he's on period.

Can Uzi save himself and the scum team? Time will tell.

Alch's been voteparked on you for a min I think. Who cares if he bussed or not?

[Zachstralkita]

acid's play wrt his role hasn't been scummy imo so I don't see

I've had a bad day today too bud

I'm claiming and then replacing out if I get to L-1. Not having this game on my record.

Oh jeez I can't be more pro-scum than this but I can try, enjoy


VOTE: Zachstralkita

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi, if you don't see how that's disingenuous or you know how disingenuous it is and are doing it still I might as well just die. I still think you've been scum as fuck, but if you're town my flip should redirect you. Not that I believe that but who knows.


I'm pretty sure I called this happening anyway.

[Zachstralkita]

I could say the same thing about your self-vote just now.

None of what I just did is pro-scum. It actually hurts my win-con because it's a scum claim to replace out like that.

Not really at all but I know the self vote is scummy seeing as how I

said it was

Anyways none of the people who Sr me have given me reason to think I'm seriously scummy nor have they actually tried to evaluate me. Everything you guys have said about me is bullshit in terms of aligning me with scum or being actually scummy

I'm not saying that right

It's NaI

Okay if I'm not mistaken I should get townread for saying that


I should probably still Be lynching you but the 180 from myself would be rather melodramatic I think I'll wait til I get to L1 and there's 30 minutes before deadline


ezzz

[Zachstralkita]

Selfvoting is awful but I like it better than the ate and replace combo sorry lol





alchemist I wonder how I will read you if I go back and read that game I played with you lol


You scummy fuck



Also I was the only person ever on Wm and torque acknowledged that was the case recently


It's a bad reason to sr him

[Zachstralkita]

What if we make a third pool of alchemist and tchill


what do acid and torque say to the pool

[Zachstralkita]

And when I say look I mean we just strongarm one of those

[Zachstralkita]

Tired of posting right now actually will see where this is tomorrow

[Zachstralkita]

this mf REALLY just voted torque......... in the real world..........
















Uzi you not going let up untill I say Xxxtension cord album is bad ?

[Zachstralkita]

All we know is that this NMK caught up. We don't know why his reads are the way they are.


Anyways cd you and the rest of town(besides the scum in a bloc) push vanity wagons close to deadline and don't concede on anything but those. Swell


VOTE: Uzi

[Zachstralkita]

What a question. Cause you can't make 7 votes by yourself unless you have a crazy modifier. As either align you need several other people to vote with you. How have your efforts on the "convincing people" front gone? I'm pretty sure scum told you those lynches weren't even viable


If you guys like no lynches for Day 1 that's really bad but I'm not going to vote myself and what if uzi is actually green

though if I didn't lynch uzi today I don't see how we could even lynch him in the future but yeah. I can tell myself he's town and fake believing it

VOTE: Alch

If the rest of the wagons are vanity and Uzi can't do anything besides push me and AtE I may as well join a vanity wagon on my scumread.


Lynch pool: Whymafia Nmk Carcalilly Tchill Alchemist


I can't believe I obv Towned your predecessor: cd

Most valuable players(figure out for which team exactly ): Robbnva/lil uzi vert



Town: acidphoenix torque syndesis

[Zachstralkita]

"scum is too easy" lol. Someone thinks they're Sherlock. What did that comment even mean then? What was the purpose of it?

Tchill still thinks I'm scum for that one flimsy ass reason



It's like if I walked up to a guy on the street and called him a murderer then cited a fucking fire hydrant as evidence


And everyone believes me even though the two objects have no correlation

That's pretty much how your read on me works


Why is "people don't soft like that" difficult :/ how do you know I wasn't even trying to draw a nk


Oh probably because scum defines what "town" is if they play a strong early game... probably the reason that whymafia can Lamist and just scumpost and actually be considered obv town

What motivation would I have as town to vote someone I suspect to be town as opposed to voting someone I suspect to be scum?

I actually hope you do end up getting lynched today so you can realize that you have 2 scums in your town-list. You can't read for shit.

I forgot that reads are locked day one with no flips. You're probably an alt of someone immensely better than me in which case you should have fucking maybe driven a lynch successfully with your incredible reads.

[Zachstralkita]

You think that scum doesn't control this game. Even if that happens to be true you think momentum is defined by reasonable standards or something that's probably why you think this town will consolidate and allot votes to "scum" lynches

within less than two days

I've seen scum as equal CWs and a god damn town lynch get rushed still with like 3 days to dl because we think about lynching scum but not time management or maybe working together as a team and these don't become problems until.. it's inconvenient

[Zachstralkita]

When a player self votes it doesn't matter if you announce or not. The player has given up and admitted they are scum.

[Zachstralkita]

Let's play a game guys




After the VC gets updated you're going to tell me what player on this playerlist I am most like

[Zachstralkita]

Countdown: (expired on 2017-09-03 07:48:55)

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Uzi


I will die wtih integrity u all should be ashamed of this wagon


Whymafia is scum lord but he's not going to die from me voting him

[Zachstralkita]

ur like a mix of rob and whymafy

acid and flufy

why have you forsaken me

[Zachstralkita]

i cry when angels deserve to die

[Zachstralkita]

SOAD be the throwback jams king idk what you on

[Zachstralkita]

wm fully utterly bleeds scum






ty based carca for not slaying me but i fear you will probably not vote on the side of justice and you intend to leave him alive



in which case I would like you to please end my misery

[Zachstralkita]

whymafia is trying to power scum

i shouldn't say trying because he is apparently working the town atm



look at how he approached carca

and he didn't say jack shit to cd who did basically the same thing

[Zachstralkita]

Well since two of my townreads are on this..... I will jump on it too.

VOTE: Syndesis

I think zachs "please end my misery" comment was town too. I feel better about this vote but only because it is looking like alchemist isn't a viable choice.

i think you're scum friend


all the righteous are voting on uzi

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not even mad if there's a nolynch honestly

are you gonna tell me why nolynching is good play or optimal for town

otherwise that is not happening and neither is alch if you really feel that way

who even is going to vote with us

I'm not switching to Alchemist. You either vote town {Zach/LUV}, vote scum {Syndesis}, or vote outside of that and potentially force a no-lynch.

I find it really odd you're aware of the false dilemma involving our lynches and the capacity to steer a nolynch which you cited as why cd wasn't getting lynched and yet you do the same thing. It's only okay when you do it, because of your reads.

Just vote Syndesis. Alchemist isn't getting lynched. You aren't getting 6 people to switch in 18 hours.

Let's see if you get three on Syndesis.

My wagon is fixed and Uzi's voters don't seem to be moving. I can't see a legitimate reason Alchemist will switch besides looking townie.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not switching to Alchemist. You either vote town {Zach/LUV}, vote scum {Syndesis}, or vote outside of that and potentially force a no-lynch.

I find it really odd you're aware of the false dilemma involving our lynches and the capacity to steer a nolynch which you cited as why cd wasn't getting lynched and yet you do the same thing. It's only okay when you do it, because of your reads.

There's a difference between 2 days until deadline and 18 hours until deadline, in case you didn't know.

I told you why the difference didn't matter and your response was to do nothing. I notice the momentum you've gathered within that time. Better than the one time I had two people on WhyMafia today, so you've got me there.

I'm not saying nl is optimal but if it has to be between lynching you/uzi or nl i'll take the nl
i'm probably going to be here for the whole day so its not like I won't be there to switch vote

you taking the NL means we take the nl so if it's not optimal then it is aiding scum.

[Zachstralkita]

Listen guys, lynches are there to lynch people you think are scum - not to avoid a deadline and surely not always for the sake of information. If you're lynching players you have a good feeling are innocent, just to avoid a no lynch, then you are out of your mind as that accomplishes nothing. If you strongly feel the player is innocent then them flipping does nothing. You just eliminated someone that could have possibly been put in the hard to lynch category which is one of many things scum don't like.

Just because you can lynch every cycle doesn't mean you should lynch every cycle. The nature of every lynch is different. Some are built on investigations, some on analyzing a player's behavior, some on votes, some on bullshit, some on lies - are you going to lynch someone to avoid a no lynch even if you think the case against them is shit because half of the other people voted?

No lynching doesn't always hurt. New information may be gained during the night phase, people's thoughts may change, and you may even find more reasons to convince other players to lynch your scum reads or to not lynch your town reads. If you can reasonably step back, look at the situation and deduce that the player on the clock is town, then no lynching gives town 1 more player scum has to think about before winning.

Your argument is void on Day One. It's basically saying "we have all this information day one. want a flip? no we don't. we'll revisit this same information day 2 with probably one dead body and try to win. what's changed? we have a dead townie. maybe night results. i guess its good we didnt lynch x cause I townread them."

I don't have a town read on Syndesis
VOTE: Syndesis

I've been lock scum to you for a long time and I'm closer to lynch. I want to die in this game. You are pretty transparently red but uhhh. Yeah. The town isn't going to care.

[Zachstralkita]

Nobody wants to vote you apart from the people already on your wagon ....?

An astute observation

[Zachstralkita]

Why isn't kangaroo an option?

You say this having been voteparked on town lynches for your Day. Kangaroo is pretty scummy, but he's not lynchable for reasons several people have stated and ignored.

This no lynch is gonna be fun for you, isn't it.








pedit whyd michael say hes going to read the game with 20 hours left

please sir the town needs your support. Will you join the fight for justice?

[Zachstralkita]

I'll be honest when I say I don't think Dany's participation has been sufficient to save us from our impending doom.

[Zachstralkita]

Not insulting your intelligence buddy I think you're underestimating how fucked we are but please do go ahead I need someone to un fuck us

[Zachstralkita]

Not insulting your intelligence buddy I think you're underestimating how fucked we are but please do go ahead I need someone to un fuck us

Why are you fucked
It is day 1
Everything can change

Your statement is normally true but with the actions of Lil Uzi Vert and WhyMafia this game is more like
It is day 1
we are all going to die

[Zachstralkita]

I mean like
They are people
If they're playing wolfy we lynch them
If they're playing villagery we try convince them
How bad can the game be other than this

The mans WhyMafia is Power Wolfing™


Town is being convicted of aiding and abetting scum

Carcalilly is being convicted of 60000 counts of aiding and abetting scum


I have been sentenced to death by mislynch


Uzi was scum but then he did a little AtE and now he's town, but my vote is on him because I don't really think he's even going to die either way so it doesn't matter. Are you a quadruple voter or something?

[Zachstralkita]

Oh and you're scum by consensus of everyone else I think, I think the case on your predecessor has been shit and the worst that could be said about her was that she didn't contribute enough

Though she did call VLA so I don't see why people focused there

[Zachstralkita]

Oh and you're scum by consensus of everyone else I think, I think the case on your predecessor has been shit and the worst that could be said about her was that she didn't contribute enough

Though she did call VLA so I don't see why people focused there

You truly have no idea what's going on in this game.

At all.

Great, I have shitty experiences in games with voting my townreads and ending on a mislynch to appeal to people like you. Why is me not voting Syndesis a problem but you haven't said shit to Uzi about him transferring? I read your interaction with him on the matter. It was

full

of fucking effort. You've also proven you don't actually know what compromise is.

Your case blows anyway, want me to grab it

Spoiler:

Dislike Syndesis's opening posts: 154, 226, 255, 259, 267, 284. They all feel forced and don't have much purpose. He stated that he was going to be V/LA in post 45, you don't need to update this much about how your wi-fi is weak or how you can't post. Going through the pages I almost thought you were trying to prod-dodge, but then they were all on the same day and it just feels forced because of that. No one was asking for you to be post, but it almost feels like you felt obligated to do so.

I interpreted this as courtesy on her part. But that certainly can't be the case because she has to be scum and she has to be lynched, right? "Feeling" forced is you scumreading someone's manner of speech.

I went back to ISO Syndesis's early posts;

syndesis name 1 town and 1 scum read

rabbit not an option for either

can i give you three scumreads instead

This post looks townie.

I'm curious as to why you took the time to capitalize on a post that means nothing in the way of alignment

I'm not going to explain the town-reads in this post, if anyone is wondering why—they can ask me.

Town

; Robbvna, WhyMafia, Tchill, iDanyBoy.

Null/Leaning Town

; Circalilly, Torque.

Null

; acidphoenix, Zachstralkita, awesome5000.

Null/Leaning Scum

; LUV, Alchemist21.

Scum

; Syndesis.

For Syndesis, I went back and honestly, his earlier posts that I pointed out in post 1238 bother me more and more the more I read them. It just doesn't feel natural at all. It's almost like he's forcing himself to post to stand-into-the-crowd. Recently, he hasn't been explaining many of his reads (despite posting them) and a lot of his posts just have nothing-to-say.

With that said:

VOTE: Syndesis.

You scumread the same posts you had scumread before even more when you looked at them again? Great deductive abilities?

Why is there more detail in your UPDATED reaction to Synd's posting up to page 12 than there is in her recent posting (I'm assuming anything from page 12-58)

I know I'm playing bad but you just have to teach me. So I can play, cause I clearly don't know how.

If you two are looking for great support, I'd wholeheartedly support either of your votes if they happened to be on Syndesis.

Shitty day one lynch. You're trying to lynch a glorified inactive as opposed to more content posters. No diss to Syn. You're just a terrible lynch today.

My case on Syndesis has nothing to do with her inactivity. It has to do with the content of her posts and how they're presented as-previously-described.

which is an argument based on not contributing shit inside those same posts, is it?

No, it isn't. All of her posts have very little content in them and feel incredibly awkward. She's saying next-to-nothing in almost all of her posts and all of them feel incredibly forced. What does that have to do with inactivity?

her playstyle simply isn't a content dense one imo. how they "feel" is subjective to you and whoever else scumreads her for that.

Ok?

Not seeing anything forced about her posts other than her reasoning for why she voted me.

Lack of content is not AI.

If lack of content was my problem, I'd be voting awesome. I said the way she's presenting her posts is the reason why I'm scum-reading her. She's saying next-to-nothing in them and it looks like to me that she's just posting for the sake of posting half-of-the-time.

So it's a structure argument you don't feel her posts are natural, because you feel they're forced. Her content and interactions aren't directly addressed besides two of your posts and you're wondering why your case hasn't been taken as the word of God. Amazing. You've been pushing a compromise lynch the whole day (players who DO NOTHING are your best choice for scum, yeah? What's your opinion on there being more than one scum player?) and your other push has been acid who has been town as fuck. Keep in mind I'm recent here. The rest of your posts in this ISO are you reiterating the same things you have before and saying lynch Syndesis. You then proceed to act confused when she doesn't end up dead. I could have taken a similar approach by voteparking Alchemist today except Alchemist is actually scummy.


Oh, Syndesis is "scummy" but she's not scummy enough for you to act like you're upset here.

You don't like her content, cd. That doesn't make her scum.

I have no idea why you're so hard-pressed on defending this. I don't like the presentation of her posts (don't like; scummy), so I think she's scum, but that doesn't make her scum? Kk.

Acid isn't happening either WM.

Not enough support for it. It's me or Zach.

I'm lynching Acid, or Syndesis. Either or, it doesn't really matter to me. Think they're both scum.

lol

You've been appealing to emotion for the whole game lmfao

When I'm playing I don't say "I'm going to replace" like we should give a fuck for one and then assume that's a genuine thing to say like it wouldn't be influencing to townies.

try to town to the people lynching me

should be the reaction there. but there are actually no borders when it comes to win con apparently as either alignment so it's fine

[Zachstralkita]

This is hilarious lol, I hope you're red Mike for the town's sake

They don't even want you to catch up



Otherwise we're going to have a very petty day tomorrow

[Zachstralkita]

Ty for the bus tchill


That and you leaving that god awful wagon ought to give you some towncred




VOTE: NMK



Uzi you wilding cuz Im town af

[Zachstralkita]

Let's get the kangaroo, Uzi. If you think Mike is scum u bugging.

[Zachstralkita]

Town has NO REASON not to claim here. AT ALL.

If two days is enough for you to push his wagon then theoretically it's enough for a town replacement to evaluate the game as he sees it

Oh wait that doesn't matter at all because conf bias and double standards

Why the fuck would he even claim without being caught up given there's plenty of time for him to read the game and it's not like he's going to wriggle out of L-1 if he's actually scum

I got to L-2 on

nothing

so really there's no real danger here in letting him play

[Zachstralkita]

is mafiauniverse a haven of super players or something

[Zachstralkita]

is mafiauniverse a haven of super players or something

Maybe lol, why are you asking ?

It all makes sense now Mulch's scum game hit this site like the crack epidemic





You know I have to name my first born child after him?

[Zachstralkita]

tell Panther the eagle has left the nest

[Zachstralkita]

full disclosure i was not going to do anything today apart from prodge and allocate my vote where cd did