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[acidphoenix]

who do you think is scum

[Carcalilly]

Ugh this game is going to suck. I may have to replace out which I really hate doing.

Just chill Robb.

If you're town here, we'll solve the game eventually. It may not be pretty, but we will get there

c: this is why I like playing with you luv

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: alchemist

ew why

[acidphoenix]

who do you think is scum

whymaf .-.

[Zachstralkita]

catching up

[WhyMafia]

Acid and Zach are scum

[acidphoenix]

nope / maybe respectively

[acidphoenix]

Zach when caught up whaddya think of: syndesis, luv, torque, chill

[Zachstralkita]

Spoiler:

robbva are you going to rationalize deathtunneling a town who is actually trying to solve the game with just my posting habits?

not sure what you call your deathtunnel threat then

but whatever

luv outside of rabbit who do you dislike rn

you're going to have to get used to his tunnely style of play

i dont intend to have that control the game though

rather i'm not going to do anything whatsoever if this game turns into a shit show, i play mediator too fucking much

house king of deathtunnel

Nah pretty sure that's me.

And I keep laughing every time rabbit says I'm tunneling a town. I'm not

can we have a pact where you write a paragraph how youre embarrassed in postgame this game when you find out im town

town tunnel town all the time

i dont think itd be that embarassing

syndesis do i know you

we are acquainted

can you tell me what i know you as because this is going to bug me

charts bird

got it ty

VOTE: Alchemist21

im sheeping my boy zach on this one

no you not motherfucker i read the post immediately following this

what are you disliking from him rn

also anyone else?

I don't like how she's whining about how fast the game is going.

as much as I love a nice posty game under regular circumstances,

my ability to extract anything useful out of a game this fast while i am v/la is basically nil

So replace out?

What is your deal? You know people will hate hyperposting but still opt to adapt more often than not? No one's gotta force them to say they enjoy it though or should be posting like that on a VLA.

what are you disliking from him rn

also anyone else?

I don't like how she's whining about how fast the game is going.

as much as I love a nice posty game under regular circumstances,

my ability to extract anything useful out of a game this fast while i am v/la is basically nil

So replace out?

are you going to die if i slank for a few days in a ten day phase? probably not

Yes. I will die if I'm not able to effectively sort people.

Please stop whining or replace out.

oh no, going to say it. you haven't sorted jack shit and you have me scum. I'd say that's not sufficient grounds to be talking to people like that :/

Man the rebuttal to this post is going to kill me, and I'm not even prepared for it.

first even if you disagree that it's bad play(I could probably write an essay on why it is) it's still absurdly terrible to do any threat with the explicit purpose of making the game less fun for a player if they don't acquiesce to your demands

second rabbit is a he I believe

third you're 99.9% wrong and you aren't listening to anyone telling you why, you're just assuming that the validity of literally any read is based on whether it agrees with your conclusion

but especially part 1 wtf

1. It's not my intention to make the game less fun. But it is my intention to lynch scum.
2. Oops
3. Nobody has explained why he's town outside of you himself. your reasons are non AI reasons and of course I'm going to ignore his own explanations.

Fluffy's reaction to me saying I dislike reads lists was fake ate. Add in 104 which is basically a cheap shot at me with another ate gimmick of threatening not to interact with me. At this point he calls me town when I did nothing townish. Makes me think he knows I'm town and he wants to try and buddy me after he just insulted me. Calls uzi scummy for agreeing with me which raises another red flag. 122 implies he knows Zach is town (adding to the later post about not caring if he's lynched) is another red flag. I could add more but it's really unnecessary. The icing on top is the self meta.

Meta should never be used. Self meta is a used by desperate people. Town should never be desperate.

There is nothing else in his ISO that looks even remotely town.

So idk where the game is going from here but there is no way rabbit should be alive at the end of the day. If people disagree idk what else I can do but I can't unvote

I mean you do this weird thing where you expect everyone to find scum in the exact same manner you do and it's rather odd

lol at meta should never be used

Meta is so easy to manipulate.

bingo but doesnt apply to iiafr to make him scum at the moment. that's not someone id like to sort today

mafia is also a team game not a "do what i want or I will dislike this game and its players" game . you kind of do it sometimes but several people on this site

your deathtunnel post was actively threatening to do it, which given that you think it's good play means that (I think luv)'s fun was the only thing you could possibly be targeting


lol at meta should never be used

i agree with him that mostly meta blows but it has its uses and there are several






what happened on page 14? nothing

robbva




but like my overall read on him is just still probably town? xdxdxd

facts

acid - uzi,:tchill, and whymafia all had super awkward entrances

Can you explain why you felt they were awkward? Why did they lack social grace or assurance?

awkward as in i could see the "hey guys i'm just a town nothing to see here move along move along radiating off them"

I wouldn't call that awkward.

What's wrong with making a statement that says just that?

i feel like we might just be on totally different wavelengths bc i have no idea how to express this to you

Or you're bullshitting

This is a decent scumpost from Uzi. makes no attempt to relate to player or seek understanding when clearly playstyle differences exist in the first place

Can we turn it down a bit by the way?

The mafia theory discussions aren't doing us any good. They're only creating noise.

this would be a more resonant if you were producing any decent signal in the first place

Fluff and off topic posting isn't noise.

false completely, what is this


when you ISOing someone it is


Tchill can go in null pile for now


would put syndesis leantown but that's sort of silly atm so going to null



acidphoenix is leantown

wm still scummy

Carca, what the hell are you doing this game? I know you're going to give me an aggravating answer, I just like to give myself hope sometimes.

Oh and heads up I town very easily, by the way. People like Uzi and Clilly shouldn't be moving to lynch me at all. The fact that they're still on the wagon makes me want to die.


There's bullshit somewhere. Why the flying 747 fuck are there 4 votes on me?


VOTE: Alchemist

Acid and Zach are scum

this morning I just threw up. reading this post gives me the same wonderful feeling.

Zach when caught up whaddya think of: syndesis, luv, torque, chill

see bottom spoiler

I kinda really don't like Uzi's posting this game though independent of the vote on me

it goes torque then tchill/syndesis in order of townier --> nulltownier but id be lying if I said I hadn't preflipped Alchemist red already

[acidphoenix]

I mean deathtunnels are bad but normally I'll just try to post against it once or twice and then give up

fuck actively threatening to make the game unfun though

also it should be embarrassing to do this tier of tunnel but it probably isn't just bc too many people do it

why wm / alch scum

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think Robb believes he was threatening to make the game unfun.

why wm / alch scum

going back to the pt and im going to think of how much words i can put this in to make people townread me for this read





(Their ISOs are scum.)

Why do you post so much

oh no is carca scum

[acidphoenix]

I don't see how you can see that as anything else; he outright said you should do this because otherwise I'll make the game into something you hate

[acidphoenix]

looked at both isos

definitely don't see alch; his tone is great on basically everything and the only post against him I liked earlier was the unlynch on iaafr
but looking back the progression on it was good

what don't you like on w_m

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I thought he was joking

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I cant imagine you seriously believe this

Oh? Do you feel like you've been caught for the wrong reasons?

I thought this was joking too then I realized he was serious both times.

This is bullshit, the assumption he starts on is one that you have to "create" anyway. Then he just acts like that's actually what I did, then points a loaded question at me like I'm supposed to respond with anything but "that is terrible and utterly confusing"

Of course if you proceed like nothing actually happened, then the townies wont notice you being scum

Robbnva gets it.

Robbnva gets... what? He has a strict list of town and scum behavior and when you do one of those things that falls into either category, guess where that places you? Citing his stance is like an illusion, it does nothing to defend your position. It's sort of like an argument from authority.

Fluffy and uzi are Town

Please explain both cause I disagree

if you dont have at least a town lean on me youre probably not very good at playing with new people in general

im like level 1 towny because the game has never been "look as pro town as possible == town"

too pro-town looking often comes from scum

etc

if you think some sloppy stuff i say is scummy youre just bad

Why should anyone have a Townread on you at this point? Posts like these make it look like you just want to discredit any suspicion that comes your way.

VOTE: Fluffyrabbit

begs the question why should anyone townread anyone at this point?


also you did unvote after... so you really don't have any scumreads.. except..?

alchemist who are your other scum candidates as of right now

Nobody right now. I don't know most of y'all and there still isn't much to go on imo.

really

that's not what one would assume

at all...

I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing




iaafr is probably town at the moment. I think he's a bad day one lynch

So what's actually been scummy about my posts to you?

then he tops it off with this one, this is great. if the plan was to leave me silent in utter confusion at the circumstances taking place right now then you have succeeded


I don't really see how you townread any of that ISO

"tone" is a bad reason to read people in general

[Zachstralkita]

if his rvs vote on me was rvs and not a genuine "scumread" there should have been opposition taken to me being a fucking L-3 wagon at any point, I'd think


towns normally react when something like that happens. except his read on me is now seemingly ambiguous

[Zachstralkita]

im aggressive and emotional

lol

i can link you all my scumgames in which im aggressive and emotional in almost none

furthermore proactive, still trying to figure out other peoples alignments and reads, etc

I trust self-meta about as far as I can throw it.

Proactivity is a good thing but I don't think it solidifies you as obvTown here.

yiiikes



I mean the statement is correct but it doesn't sound natural at all

[Zachstralkita]

WM's ISo isn't really that deep. After his first 6 posts which I won't even comment on, here's what we have in order if you go down



- here are some random town reads
- why are there so many pages
- iaafr(the guy being lynched at the time) is lynch-bait
-what does v mean
- "skims" alchemist ISo and arrives at.. light town? how sway
- another random townread
- makes a post where he.. actually explains a read! groundbreaking
- "acid and zach are scum" (this doesnt get explained)

What is town of that



Is the formula of playing scum make arguments from authority until you score mislynches now because confbias gets townread by people? This is all scummy shit and I would take WM over Alchemist right now.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spoiler:

robbva are you going to rationalize deathtunneling a town who is actually trying to solve the game with just my posting habits?

not sure what you call your deathtunnel threat then

but whatever

luv outside of rabbit who do you dislike rn

you're going to have to get used to his tunnely style of play

i dont intend to have that control the game though

rather i'm not going to do anything whatsoever if this game turns into a shit show, i play mediator too fucking much

house king of deathtunnel

Nah pretty sure that's me.

And I keep laughing every time rabbit says I'm tunneling a town. I'm not

can we have a pact where you write a paragraph how youre embarrassed in postgame this game when you find out im town

town tunnel town all the time

i dont think itd be that embarassing

syndesis do i know you

we are acquainted

can you tell me what i know you as because this is going to bug me

charts bird

got it ty

VOTE: Alchemist21

im sheeping my boy zach on this one

no you not motherfucker i read the post immediately following this

what are you disliking from him rn

also anyone else?

I don't like how she's whining about how fast the game is going.

as much as I love a nice posty game under regular circumstances,

my ability to extract anything useful out of a game this fast while i am v/la is basically nil

So replace out?

What is your deal? You know people will hate hyperposting but still opt to adapt more often than not? No one's gotta force them to say they enjoy it though or should be posting like that on a VLA.

what are you disliking from him rn

also anyone else?

I don't like how she's whining about how fast the game is going.

as much as I love a nice posty game under regular circumstances,

my ability to extract anything useful out of a game this fast while i am v/la is basically nil

So replace out?

are you going to die if i slank for a few days in a ten day phase? probably not

Yes. I will die if I'm not able to effectively sort people.

Please stop whining or replace out.

oh no, going to say it. you haven't sorted jack shit and you have me scum. I'd say that's not sufficient grounds to be talking to people like that :/

Man the rebuttal to this post is going to kill me, and I'm not even prepared for it.

first even if you disagree that it's bad play(I could probably write an essay on why it is) it's still absurdly terrible to do any threat with the explicit purpose of making the game less fun for a player if they don't acquiesce to your demands

second rabbit is a he I believe

third you're 99.9% wrong and you aren't listening to anyone telling you why, you're just assuming that the validity of literally any read is based on whether it agrees with your conclusion

but especially part 1 wtf

1. It's not my intention to make the game less fun. But it is my intention to lynch scum.
2. Oops
3. Nobody has explained why he's town outside of you himself. your reasons are non AI reasons and of course I'm going to ignore his own explanations.

Fluffy's reaction to me saying I dislike reads lists was fake ate. Add in 104 which is basically a cheap shot at me with another ate gimmick of threatening not to interact with me. At this point he calls me town when I did nothing townish. Makes me think he knows I'm town and he wants to try and buddy me after he just insulted me. Calls uzi scummy for agreeing with me which raises another red flag. 122 implies he knows Zach is town (adding to the later post about not caring if he's lynched) is another red flag. I could add more but it's really unnecessary. The icing on top is the self meta.

Meta should never be used. Self meta is a used by desperate people. Town should never be desperate.

There is nothing else in his ISO that looks even remotely town.

So idk where the game is going from here but there is no way rabbit should be alive at the end of the day. If people disagree idk what else I can do but I can't unvote

I mean you do this weird thing where you expect everyone to find scum in the exact same manner you do and it's rather odd

lol at meta should never be used

Meta is so easy to manipulate.

bingo but doesnt apply to iiafr to make him scum at the moment. that's not someone id like to sort today

mafia is also a team game not a "do what i want or I will dislike this game and its players" game . you kind of do it sometimes but several people on this site

your deathtunnel post was actively threatening to do it, which given that you think it's good play means that (I think luv)'s fun was the only thing you could possibly be targeting


lol at meta should never be used

i agree with him that mostly meta blows but it has its uses and there are several






what happened on page 14? nothing

robbva




but like my overall read on him is just still probably town? xdxdxd

facts

acid - uzi,:tchill, and whymafia all had super awkward entrances

Can you explain why you felt they were awkward? Why did they lack social grace or assurance?

awkward as in i could see the "hey guys i'm just a town nothing to see here move along move along radiating off them"

I wouldn't call that awkward.

What's wrong with making a statement that says just that?

i feel like we might just be on totally different wavelengths bc i have no idea how to express this to you

Or you're bullshitting

This is a decent scumpost from Uzi. makes no attempt to relate to player or seek understanding when clearly playstyle differences exist in the first place

Can we turn it down a bit by the way?

The mafia theory discussions aren't doing us any good. They're only creating noise.

this would be a more resonant if you were producing any decent signal in the first place

Fluff and off topic posting isn't noise.

false completely, what is this


when you ISOing someone it is


Tchill can go in null pile for now


would put syndesis leantown but that's sort of silly atm so going to null



acidphoenix is leantown

wm still scummy

Carca, what the hell are you doing this game? I know you're going to give me an aggravating answer, I just like to give myself hope sometimes.

Oh and heads up I town very easily, by the way. People like Uzi and Clilly shouldn't be moving to lynch me at all. The fact that they're still on the wagon makes me want to die.


There's bullshit somewhere. Why the flying 747 fuck are there 4 votes on me?


VOTE: Alchemist

Acid and Zach are scum

this morning I just threw up. reading this post gives me the same wonderful feeling.

Zach when caught up whaddya think of: syndesis, luv, torque, chill

see bottom spoiler

I kinda really don't like Uzi's posting this game though independent of the vote on me

it goes torque then tchill/syndesis in order of townier --> nulltownier but id be lying if I said I hadn't preflipped Alchemist red already

I'm chillin'. I just don't understand and never have people who complain about how fast paced a game is. It doesn't accomplish anything and it doubles as an excuse to not interact and game solve. If you're finding that you're struggling to keep up or just unable to, replace out. That simple. There will be other games.

I've sorted plenty man. Are you living under a rock?

Can you explain how asking Syndesis what was awkward about my entrance not trying to seek an understanding of her perspective?

No, nothing is false about that statement. Noise is actually distracting as opposed to filler and allows for scum to hide easier in my experience. Mafia theory and speculation do exactly just that. Me asking tchill about his thoughts on the Cleveland Cavaliers trading Kyrie Irving isn't, especially in this setting. It doesn't prevent anyone from concentrating on game solving. The NBA is simply just not a captivating topic in a mafia game.

[Zachstralkita]

lol you asked her then she was like "aaa we i wavelength" and you said "lol or ur just lying ya scum fuck"


that's what I saw



and yeah you have been sorting but you really going hard in the wrong way. you probably playing for the opps




Get off me mf I've town told out the ass

[acidphoenix]

i think wm is playing like shit but still more likely town tbh

ml bait

tone is absolutely not a bad reason to read someone but w/e
also what do you call 415 then =====

generally i'd agree w the l-x thing(although probably less so l-3) but nobody reacted when i was trying to get a wagon on someone who hadn't even posted to l-1 so it just seems like nobody wants to

out of the ones you quoted i think the only ones that legitimately look bad are 222/249

don't see how saying "x gets it" on somebody who agrees w you is meaningful

49 is maybe partially serious? i don't think it's ever fully serious in rvs there
62 is serious but just bad-skill-read not bad-alignment-of-user-read

[acidphoenix]

alch carca melas rabbit Robb
wm synd zach
chill
luv
torq dany

#cpdfrompt

speaking of dany you're posting elsewhere get in here

[Zachstralkita]

I mean that tone can be manipulated so it's completely fallible. I tend to not do "this guy is town because of tone"

generally i'd agree w the l-x thing(although probably less so l-3) but nobody reacted when i was trying to get a wagon on someone who hadn't even posted to l-1 so it just seems like nobody wants to

Confusing concept isnt it

don't see how saying "x gets it" on somebody who agrees w you is meaningful

In line with an agenda anything is meaningful. Clearly he wanted me lynched, right? If he didn't, wouldn't that still be questionable?

49 is maybe partially serious?

i don't think it's ever fully serious in rvs there

Escape hatch :/ That would be for him to establish, and it doesn't look like that was his intention

62 is serious but just bad-skill-read not bad-alignment-of-user-read

Dont know how you make the conclusion so easily


I know you guys have alch meta but eh

alch carca melas rabbit Robb
wm synd zach
chill
luv
torq dany

#cpdfrompt

speaking of dany you're posting elsewhere get in here

...aye thats a big ass town pool



dont obvtown Carcalmaouse please

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Forgot Dany was in this game to be honest.

[acidphoenix]

I don't have alch meta lol I literally don't know him; see tone thing

only ppl itg I know are melas/rabbit/synde/sorta carca

y isnt carca obvtown

[acidphoenix]

Forgot Dany was in this game to be honest.

lookin like he forgot too