In post 359, VI Zexion wrote:In post 335, IV Vexen wrote:
Zexy, could you please confirm for me that you believe Xig is someone who was best man at your wedding and tell me exactly what post and what about that post made you see the light so clearly? And if you wouldn't mind too terribly much, could you send that same PM to make sure you don't wind up dead when I ask you to tell me Xig's identity?
I have no idea what you want from me here, sorry. I'm not going to comment on the wedding. Altguessing and hinting at meta is fine but making explicit statements that reveal you as X is not cool at all.
Still pretty unhappy with Demyx. Don't know why that slot is just doing next to nothing after getting two pages into their catchup.
Don't actually give a shit who you are. What I want from you is
A. To confirm that to the best of your knowledge Xig knows who you are and you know who Xig is.
AND
B. To confirm exactly which post gave you that information.
I'd also like this about every other one of the 4 people who you were sure you knew on page 7.
In post 361, VII Saix wrote:Zex, kinda disappointed with your conversation with Xig about me, but never mind. I am sure you have your reasons for doubting me, but I thought there was some kinda mutual town block thing happening between us.
About Vex, I was already scum-reading his slot. The he replaced and somehow tracked me down for a one-on-one with Axel because of my post on Axel. There are a number of reasons that pinged me badly, but the worst were the following, which I have already outlined in my interactions with him. But here's the gist.
1. he found my lack of a case on Axel as a good enough reason to vote for me, but he himself never provided a good enough reason for placing his vote on me. All that he said about me could also be said about Vex's reasons about scumreading me. I don't buy his explanation regarding he was reaction-testing me initially but then my reaction actually made him vote for me. I think he wanted to make a splash with his entry and my post happened to be around the corner for him to bump into, and he took it off from there.
2. Axel is worst of between me and him (Axel) if it came to deciding where to put his vote. For someone to disregard that and say that they don't have a clue on Axel's slot, but they have a clue abt me without reading what happened in the game before they entered, is a bit much. It tells me that they have probably made up their opinion how they want to go ahead with their interaction with me.
3. I have already said that because my posts are a certain way, scum usually find it easy to target me. What usually happens is they say something provocative, and I react to that provocation, and then instead of justifying their reasons behind the provocation, they start using my reaction as a justification. This is wrong coz they are changing the chronology of the narrative. This has happened a lot with me, and scums usually do that, coz frankly it's way too tempting. So, instead of defending myself, I have learnt to put this reason out there the first time I sense it. So that this doesn't spiral out of control, and I can save my slot the moment I see it going downhill. Coz the longer you wait hoping that either that person sees reason or coz someone else will see how the narrative is being changed, the narrative has already been changed. In that changed narrative, it starts appearing like my slot is fighting tooth and nail and defending way too much.
To summarise, Vex's behaviour in that interaction was scummy coz he was way too rigid about his stance on me (and without reasons) and way too cavalier about Axel, and he couldn't see how that was contradictory.
Marluxia, I ISO'd Xaldin. There's absolutely nothing to say. That slot has done nothing. He isn't even making an effort. There are only a few detailed posts, but these posts are mostly centred around himself, how others' votes on him are opportunistic, etc (e.g.
219). I dont like that. But I would like to give him some more time.
I continue to have not read Axel. As, you know, I haven't attempted to hide once.
1. I did give reasons to find you scummy before voting you, primarily in my post 306 and in 311. To say anything less is a misrep. Whether that was a "good enough" reason for the vote is subjective at best, and the evidence has merely piled up since then.
2. Oh. Really? So... Everything I'm saying you're doing is why Axel is scummy? That makes literally 0 sense as a defense, and even less as a argument for why Axel is scum.
3.
You're accusing me of scumreading you for things you hadn't done yet when I first started scumreading you, manipulating a narrative, and provoking you into acting in a scummy manner. Seriously?
The thread is pretty clear. My original reason for poking you is there, and hasn't walked away. I'm not going to ignore other things you do that are scummy because they weren't the original thing you did. That's insane. I'm also completely in the dark as to how pointing out scummy things you do when you do them is manipulating the timeline in any way. And how the hell am I supposed to engage you in the thread without engaging you? Is there any interaction that doesn't qualify as provoking you into acting in a scummy manner? Or is the real scumtell here that I'm scumreading you? Cause it most certainly looks like it.
And how the hell am I being criticized for both using reasons from the future and not having reasons at the same time?
Your defense is laughable and I'm not sure how anyone can see this as town.
