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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:43 am

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@ 2mil
that's simply not how town thinks. Town goes "hey all this ppl are scummy" If anything, a high # of town reads and a small scumlist is from scum. I think you could easily be scum here.


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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:45 am

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In post 1275, Nero Cain wrote:
@ 2mil
that's simply not how town thinks. Town goes "hey all this ppl are scummy" If anything, a high # of town reads and a small scumlist is from scum. I think you could easily be scum here.


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boon is likely scum and if not I would be that much stock in his reads anyway.
That's rediculous, it's one thing to be suspicious of everyone, it's another thing to want to lynch over half the players. If you want to correctly figure the game out, you need to know who is town, and who is scum, not just say everyone is scum.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:54 am

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2mil has a point but so does nero

day 1 reads are generally shit, however. I think this engagement could very well be tvt but i'm not entirely sure


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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:57 am

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In post 1276, TwoInAMillion wrote:That's rediculous, it's one thing to be suspicious of everyone, it's another thing to want to lynch over half the players
she never said anything about willing to lynch half the players.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:58 am

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If you have a read list and you have someone as scum or probably scum that means you are willing to lynch them in my book.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 1271, TwoInAMillion wrote:when you know there is going to be a three to one town scum ratio.
this also felt a little odd. 21 players are almost assuredly 5 scum. Its like he was avoiding giving the number so it doesn't look like a slip.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:12 am

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come on nero at that point you're just fishing

that wording is really innocuous


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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:15 am

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fishing is a pretty relaxing past time. I used to go fishing my family alot of times when I was a kid.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:28 am

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In post 1263, TwoInAMillion wrote:
Vote: Flairs


He has more scum than town on his read lists, which makes no sense.
I can rename the tiers if it makes more sense for you

People I'm more or less confident calling town:
(People who I'm kinda confident in calling town but they haven't posted much so I'm on the edge)
People who have things stopping me from calling town:
People who don't post so I'm calling them scum for now:
People who I think are scum and I'm willing to lynch:
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:51 am

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If we're saying that's not how town thinks, I have stated this exact same play style in multiple town games, so that's really a crap reason if that's the case that is being made.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:53 am

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In post 1274, Creature wrote:Guessing wavemode has a decent chance of flipping scum.
Yeah, his recent posts showed he was posting without reading.
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:55 am

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In post 1284, Boonskiies wrote:If we're saying that's not how town thinks, I have stated this exact same play style in multiple town games, so that's really a crap reason if that's the case that is being made.
huh?
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:01 am

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You said small number of scum reads and high town comes from scum. I tend to think the opposite. When i'm scum, I generally like to keep at least 3 or 4 lean scum reads, a bunch of null, and then a small/medium amount of town reads.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:03 am

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In post 1280, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1271, TwoInAMillion wrote:when you know there is going to be a three to one town scum ratio.
this also felt a little odd. 21 players are almost assuredly 5 scum. Its like he was avoiding giving the number so it doesn't look like a slip.
Why are you assuming 5 scum before flips? I tend to never assume the game isn't multi ball in a large day 1. In that case 3-3 scum teams would make sense.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:08 am

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In post 1288, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1280, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1271, TwoInAMillion wrote:when you know there is going to be a three to one town scum ratio.
this also felt a little odd. 21 players are almost assuredly 5 scum. Its like he was avoiding giving the number so it doesn't look like a slip.
Why are you assuming 5 scum before flips? I tend to never assume the game isn't multi ball in a large day 1. In that case 3-3 scum teams would make sense.
I said nothing about it being MB. 5 scum in a 21 player is a pretty common.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:09 am

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In post 1287, Boonskiies wrote:You said small number of scum reads and high town comes from scum. I tend to think the opposite. When i'm scum, I generally like to keep at least 3 or 4 lean scum reads, a bunch of null, and then a small/medium amount of town reads.
So Flaris is a scum read for you now?
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:13 am

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I know you said nothing. That was my point. You auto assumed it wasnt.

Nah, Flairs is a boon babe. He can claim Miller after a guilty and ill believe him.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:14 am

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Why should I
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:18 am

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In post 1292, Nero Cain wrote:Why should I
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Why should you? I generally never assume it isn't, in any game. I feel I've been a part of more large games with multi ball than not.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:25 am

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b/c there's nothing to suggest it's MB unless we start seeing multiple kills per night and even then it could be sk/mafia which is/isn't MB depending on your how far you wanna stretch the definition. I feel like your speculation that this is a 3-3-15 setup is from scum thats on a 3 man team and knows its way too small to be the only team.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:29 am

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There's nothing to suggest it isn't.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:29 am

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As scum, what point would I have to bring that up in a 3 man scum team?
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:30 am

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And I never said it was multi ball, you yet again missed the point. There's nothing that suggests either way, so we shouldn't assume it's anything.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:31 am

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My point is that neither is more likely than the other.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:50 am

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In post 1298, Boonskiies wrote:My point is that neither is more likely than the other.
Qft

At this point you couldn't possibly know what the setup is unless you have hidden knowledge (e.g. You're neutral or scum)


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