Mini 1936: Yume's Cutsie U-Pick (Town Win!)

Yume · Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:07 am

From my POV, only you two could possibly be scum.

Shiro · Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:09 am

In post 1371, gerryoat wrote:never trust a RAT

Well he told me he is scum soooo I am cool with trusting him.

Guys seriously though I would not make something like this up. Let's Lynch him and then vax or vice versa but I prefer rat first cause paranoia

Radical Rat · Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:13 am

Fine. Do it, and pray to whatever deities you choose to worship that there's only two scum, because it's game over otherwise.

Meanwhile, I'll be voting wher ALL THE NIGHTKILLS THOUGHT SCUM WAS
Think about that for a moment.

VOTE: TheWoodCutters

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:21 am

YES!

YOU'RE RIGHT!

A PLAYER WHO THOUGHT OUR POST RESTRICTION WASN'T REAL! GOTTA KILL HIM DEAD REAL QUICK

and the only reason for the slot that claimed Innocent Child had to be because they scum read a slot, not because they actually were an innocent fucking child?

You're flailing hard mate

Radical Rat · Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:30 am

In post 1378, The Wood Cutters wrote:YES!

YOU'RE RIGHT!

A PLAYER WHO THOUGHT OUR POST RESTRICTION WASN'T REAL! GOTTA KILL HIM DEAD REAL QUICK

and the only reason for the slot that claimed Innocent Child had to be because they scum read a slot, not because they actually were an innocent fucking child?

You're flailing hard mate

Why them over any of the other conftown claims though?

Yume · Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:56 am

Why else do you defend Fire slot so badly then?

Yume · Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:03 am

Like, you refuse to give me a straight answer and instead choose to repeat the same old excuses. Wth am I supposed to think?

Radical Rat · Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:16 am

In post 1381, Yume wrote:Like, you refuse to give me a straight answer and instead choose to repeat the same old excuses. Wth am I supposed to think?

I did give you a straight answer, but I hope this is more clear.

All three players that have occupied the slot have given a consistent claim.
It is objectively true that their claimed action either didn't happen at all, or didn't happen as claimed.
Before I'm going to lynch a slot outside of my super extra scummy pool, I want to know WHY.
If they've all just lied? No problem, I'll lynch.
If something wonky happened? I'd wager scum was involved with the wonk.

Yume · Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:21 am

Okay, I get it. Shading all three conftown apparently isn't enough and he'd have to kill one of us for you to remotely consider him scum, amirite?. There is only one problem with that: If you let him go and he kills one of us, the GAME WOULD BE OVER, as you you yourself have pointed out.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:22 am

In post 1379, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1378, The Wood Cutters wrote:YES!

YOU'RE RIGHT!

A PLAYER WHO THOUGHT OUR POST RESTRICTION WASN'T REAL! GOTTA KILL HIM DEAD REAL QUICK

and the only reason for the slot that claimed Innocent Child had to be because they scum read a slot, not because they actually were an innocent fucking child?

You're flailing hard mate
Why them over any of the other conftown claims though?

On Day 2, the only confirmed town, were shot or lynched.

nothing confirming happened until the same night they were killed ya dingus.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:23 am

Btw I PM'd Nacho!

\o/

Radical Rat · Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:25 am

In post 1384, The Wood Cutters wrote:
In post 1379, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1378, The Wood Cutters wrote:YES!

YOU'RE RIGHT!

A PLAYER WHO THOUGHT OUR POST RESTRICTION WASN'T REAL! GOTTA KILL HIM DEAD REAL QUICK

and the only reason for the slot that claimed Innocent Child had to be because they scum read a slot, not because they actually were an innocent fucking child?

You're flailing hard mate
Why them over any of the other conftown claims though?
On Day 2, the only confirmed town, were shot or lynched.

nothing confirming happened until the same night they were killed ya dingus.

Unless my memory is failing me, you and Jae were still pretending to be masons at that point.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:28 am

In post 1383, Yume wrote:Okay, I get it. Shading all three conftown apparently isn't enough and he'd have to kill one of us for you to remotely consider him scum, amirite?. There is only one problem with that: If you let him go and he kills one of us, the GAME WOULD BE OVER, as you you yourself have pointed out.

Only if we lynch town today.
If we lynch scum, we're fine for the night. That's why it's MyLo not LyLo

Radical Rat · Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:29 am

In post 1387, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1383, Yume wrote:Okay, I get it. Shading all three conftown apparently isn't enough and he'd have to kill one of us for you to remotely consider him scum, amirite?. There is only one problem with that: If you let him go and he kills one of us, the GAME WOULD BE OVER, as you you yourself have pointed out.
Only if we lynch town today.
If we lynch scum, we're fine for the night. That's why it's MyLo not LyLo

Wait. No it isn't.

MyLo just means no lynch is an option (that we are NOT taking).

Idk what I was thinking, but the point remains. Lynch scum, and it's okay if one of you gets NKed. Lynch Town and it's not.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:30 am

In post 1386, Radical Rat wrote:Unless my memory is failing me, you and Jae were still pretending to be masons at that point.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:32 am

So, the two people who were not actually confirmed town.

and were pretending.

Is actually confirmed town.

and you're questioning why the not actually confirmed town didn't fucking die.

When WE, were part of the fucking pretending with Jae.

Dude c'mon.

Yume · Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:34 am

You still haven't explained how and why SHADING ALL THREE CONFTOWN is a town thought process. Unless you can explain it adequately, then the simplest explanation says you are both flailing scum. Case closed.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:37 am

In post 1390, The Wood Cutters wrote:So, the two people who were not actually confirmed town.

and were pretending.

Is actually confirmed town.

and you're questioning why the not actually confirmed town didn't fucking die.

When WE, were part of the fucking pretending with Jae.

Dude c'mon.

That's exactly my point.
IF you were Town, scum wouldn't know you weren't really masons.
As scum, of course you know, but you could ride that claim as long as Jae was townreading you enough to keep up the charade, so killing him doesn't make sense.
Also, you were talking an awful lot about how big a target you would be for scum. And yet... Here you are. Alive and well.

Yume · Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:38 am

And the fact that there's consistency doesn't mean they can't be maintaining a lie. You said you'd lynch them if they are lying, but since you believe them 100%, there is no way for us to prove to you that they are actually lying.

The Wood Cutters · Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:41 am

In post 1392, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1390, The Wood Cutters wrote:So, the two people who were not actually confirmed town.

and were pretending.

Is actually confirmed town.

and you're questioning why the not actually confirmed town didn't fucking die.

When WE, were part of the fucking pretending with Jae.

Dude c'mon.
That's exactly my point.
IF you were Town, scum wouldn't know you weren't really masons.
As scum, of course you know, but you could ride that claim as long as Jae was townreading you enough to keep up the charade, so killing him doesn't make sense.
Also, you were talking an awful lot about how big a target you would be for scum. And yet... Here you are. Alive and well.

Ya know whats funny?

You can say the same stupid thing.

Watch this magic trick.

"Scum never killed TWC, because there was a lot of town that scum read the slot, meaning a viable mislynch later on."

Oh look, I'm alive, I'm the mislynch.

You see now? Night kills don't mean shit

Radical Rat · Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:42 am

In post 1391, Yume wrote:You still haven't explained how and why SHADING ALL THREE CONFTOWN is a town thought process. Unless you can explain it adequately, then the simplest explanation says you are both flailing scum. Case closed.

I did, actually. Replacing into a dying slot in the middle of MyLo is gonna make any Town player panic and OMGUS.
Tell me how it's a scum thought process.

Scum should know better than to think they could lynch conftown. I haven't played with scum!Vax before, at least not that I remember, but I don't think he's the type to attempt something like that.

Yume · Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:44 am

How? Well, scum have to mislynch town, otherwise they'll never win. That simple.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:45 am

In post 1393, Yume wrote:And the fact that there's consistency doesn't mean they can't be maintaining a lie. You said you'd lynch them if they are lying, but since you believe them 100%, there is no way for us to prove to you that they are actually lying.

That's why I want everyone who hasn't claimed to PLEASE DO SO.

I don't have enough information to say whether they're lying or not, so I'm gonna choose to believe him for now.
With all the claims on the table, I'll have a much easier time separating the truth from the lies and should, in theory, be able to solve the game from there.

Yume · Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:48 am

Furthemore, you insist that bussing is viable despite me linking the game where it led to a loss. Why? Because you have to.

p-edit: lol no, not gonna let a player in scum PoE pool in any 'gamesolving' position. Sapphi, Var-Var and me are solving it, not you.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:54 am

In post 1396, Yume wrote:How? Well, scum have to mislynch town, otherwise they'll never win. That simple.

Yes, but they don't have to mislynch in you specific three. And doing so would be a death sentence for them after the flip anyway.
There are still five slots by my count that aren't conftown.

Myself, who is being pushed
Vax, who is being pushed
Lumberjacks, who I'm pushing seemingly alone
Gerry, who's not being pushed.
Shiroro, who is....... sure doing something. I'm also pushing them seemingly alone.

Of those five, I know myself to be Town.
Discounting the conftown who are pushing me, that leaves... Lumberjacks, Shiroro, and Gerry.
Shiroro's sheer absurdity in approach, leads me to believe that I was correct in my Jester speculation back when The One Who Makes Kings was being an intentional lurksack.
So Lumberjacks and Gerry have gotta be the scumteam, or Lumberjacks and Vax if after I see the claims theirs is the one that seems faked.

Also worth noting: The people I'm pushing, I'm pushing alone. If Vax and I are scum, why is Vax focused on the conftown trio instead of helping me?
Because I'm not scum.