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[Srceenplay]

VOTE: Dunker

[Srceenplay]

Has there been a single counter-wagon to Mulch yet?

Nothing as strong.

[Srceenplay]

So all scum where on it or he is scum?
Is that what you are getting at?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You would think if Mulch was scum his buddies would at least attempt some sort of counterwagon.

The fact he has been the main, and seemingly stand alone wagon of the Day, doesn't sit right with me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, the unannounced L-1 kind of killed my Elyse townread.

Then I go back to my original question - why no vote on Elyse when you thought she L-1'd with no announcement?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mostly because cd.

If cd were scum, I'd expect cd v Vedith to be SvS, but considering cd replaced out, that makes it unlikely.

I don't understand? Why did it have to be SvS? How did you rule out SvT?

[Aeronaut]

Blarghe

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hiiiiio Aerooooo!!!!

[Aeronaut]

Hey BBT!

[Aeronaut]

Who should I lynch bbt

[Dunkerdoodles]

hmm bbt might be scum

[tictac]

And I still predict you're gonna be asking for a deadline extension when there's less than one day for the day to end and we have to deadline lynch someone...

I do sympathize with worrying about deadlines.
I think it's unlikely that we'll hit the 14 RL days mark with this playerbase tho.
In the unlikely event that we do hit that mark I think we should just lynch a lurker and be done with the day. (I have a preferred candidate in mind)

Umm, hi there! Who are you an alt of?

Nobody.
I was reading old Plotinus games recently and they commented on that aspect of yer play.

It is possible to scumread anything if you really want to.

I scumread this reaction.

I don't refer to my own alignment as something I'm not sure about.
I know I am for Town, but I can't be sure Mulch is.
I just feel that he is.
And thus, "highly likely" we flip the same alignment.

The reason I scumread 348 is that I don't see that thought forming in a town head, but I can easily see it from scum.

As town I do think about myself being town, but usually in context of "does this person look like they know I'm town" or "am I being transparent enough that me being town is visible"
I think about other people as town or scum, but even when I think they are town I don't think about the fact that they share align with me. Me being town is a different

concept

than others being town because I relate to it from a totally different angle.

On the other hand, as scum I was constantly thinking about myself

in relation to others

. "is there too much associative stuff between me and my partners. Will they be ok if I get lynched?", "I want to look like that guys partner, so he doesn't look like he has none and he get's lynched/ is easier to lynch after I flip"
348 reads to me like a clumsy attempt to create a false associative, or wifom attempt in the form of "Bomba wanted to be associated with Mulch and his scumpartners would not want that, so he's probs not scum with him"

There's a lot of hyperbole thrown around in a mafia game, but this is not one: I literally do not see how that thought occurred to ya if ya town.
Now it's certainly possible that we are just super different on neurological level, but I'm gonna invoke occams razor here and say ya just scum.

The fact he has been the main, and seemingly stand alone wagon of the Day, doesn't sit right with me.

Good point. (see next point tho)

hmm bbt might be scum

I could kinda see it, but only if he's scum with Mulch. Day 1 associatives are generally not very good tho.
Do ya have a non-associative reason to think so?

[Mulch]

UNVOTE:

Why did you unvote me?

[Mulch]

You would think if Mulch was scum his buddies would at least attempt some sort of counterwagon.

The fact he has been the main, and seemingly stand alone wagon of the Day, doesn't sit right with me.

That's not how this game works but at least the conclusion is correct.

[Mulch]

I retract my DunkerDoodle townread.

[Mulch]

Also, elysee is like super scum but at this point I can't unvote Screen as a matter of principle until he answers my question

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Who should I lynch bbt

Dunkers is a great option!

[Creature]

I retract my DunkerDoodle townread.

Yeah, I was kind of questioning you townreading him...

[Dunkerdoodles]

Who should I lynch bbt

Dunkers is a great option!

why is this?

[Dunkerdoodles]

that feels pretty opportunistic tbh

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You must not be reading.

[Elyse]

Elyse
What do you think makes a person a good third party?
What do you look for?

Idk how this is relevant but probably someone who isn't putting themselves out there too much, not too townie and not too scummy, doesn't have many strong reads. It's hard to pick em out

[Elyse]

I agree that the case on ya isn't the strongest, but sheeping a likely town isn't actually that horrible of a play.
(Single townie choosing even at random is statistically better than town collective will and Ved is certainly better than random)
In the case that he is fakeclaiming (and I'm not ruling it out) he traded locking himself into the claim to lynch ya.(which tbh would be worse play than I would expect from scum-him) Still makes sense to let him do that if he's scum, since he not gonna live to LYLO having claimed that.

This paragraph gives me scumvibes with all the parentheses idk I feel like you're being too cautious

[Elyse]

Okay, so what do we do now?

You can start contributing any time now dear!

Would you join BBT?

Not at the moment. Can't really get a read on BBT

[Elyse]

Veidth, stop claiming night actions.

People, stop asking him for night actions. Or suggesting them. Or asking for hints about them.
shame on you tictac.

Makes sense. Question whithdrawn.
Just, now I gotta do stuff..
:/

pedit: ehh ok.
VOTE: Dunks

ppedit: or maybe I don't have to? I'll revisit tomorrow.

I don't like this vote. You think Dunks purposely put cd to L-1 hoping for a quicklynch? I don't like Creature's vote either but at least his was original.