In post 514, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 502, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 495, Spartan117 wrote: In post 487, Spartan117 wrote: In post 485, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah, i'm thinking mace is a good lynch
even if he flips town (i'd say it's like 65/35 he flips scum/town) his lynch gives us a lot of info.
Why do you think it would be a good lynch? Please provide evidence with posts and explanations.
65% sure isnt great but ok, what info do you think his lynch would give us, say, with him flipping town or him flipping scum?
Would be nice if you would answer my questions Dunker.
tonight i promise
i think he flips scum and if not he gives us valuable associations
i'm too lazy to go through and quote posts etc but he's posted so much even if he flips town we'll be fine
sorry i made you wait for this terrible answer
and since he wanted me to vote
VOTE: Mace
L-1
In post 464, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
that was the post i was referring to.
i was just talking in general. no specific posts or anything.
again, it's mainly just gut, i won't actually scumread you without evidence, i was just pointing out something i noticed.
So you state you wont actually scumread me without evidence, so whats the difference between myself and mace.
Feeling opportunistic enough that you can jump on this wagon without so much as a proper reason?
Oh but its alright though isn't it because mace told you to vote so that makes it alright?
You have refused to provide answers and proof of your points multiple times now,
"i'm too lazy to go through and quote posts etc but he's posted so much even if he flips town we'll be fine"
So you are too lazy to quote posts and provide evidence, this makes you worse than assemble because you are actively presenting misleading opinions under the illusion that you are active and thus must have given a reason somewhere in your posts, I'm not buying it sorry. You have been avoiding answering questions and refused to quote any evidence while asking others to do the same I find very scummy.
VOTE: Dunkerdoodles
Oh and I'm not so lazy as to not provide evidence of what I have said so here it is.
Situation 1
In post 370, Macemeetface7 wrote:
Dunkerdoodles, do you think I am scum?
If so - why?
If not - why do you want me to claim?
Mace asks Dunker
He just responds with this..
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Situation 2
In post 377, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i was going to say you should claim because i was considering declaring intent but i decided you are town
pedit it's bad because there's never nothing to defend from. you can't just not defend yourself.
then i realised he was referring to assemble and not his whole wagon.
Here Dunker says that he was considering intent to hammer but decided he was town, not giving reasons as to why he would hammer or why he felt he was town.
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Situation 3
In post 373, Spartan117 wrote:Film is over and I have some time to see whats going on before bed, probs gonna be super busy tomorrow till the evening, looking forward to seeing some more activity, but before I go;
In post 367, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 366, Macemeetface7 wrote:In case I get lolhammered:
Don't put any less pressure on Creature just because he wasn't on my wagon
I don't think this can ever be a full game with there constantly being at least 2 replacements/inactive slots
Losing a bit motivation to play. Can't defend myself against people who don't properly attack me
ok this line is terrible.
i think it's time to claim
Why is this line terrible?
Never got an answer for this question I asked...
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Situation 4
In post 375, Spartan117 wrote: In post 372, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 368, Creature wrote: In post 367, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 366, Macemeetface7 wrote:In case I get lolhammered:
Don't put any less pressure on Creature just because he wasn't on my wagon
I don't think this can ever be a full game with there constantly being at least 2 replacements/inactive slots
Losing a bit motivation to play. Can't defend myself against people who don't properly attack me
ok this line is terrible.
i think it's time to claim
I disagree completely.
why do you disagree
Do you seriously think that he should claim with 4 votes placed with not even one being concrete?
He answered this question with this
Again no explanation as to why he thought either, and what made his shift.
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Situation 5
This one is quite interesting.
In post 410, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 401, Macemeetface7 wrote:Dunker why did you consider giving intent to hammer if you aren't actually scumreading me?
i misunderstood one of your posts, i was null with you, but that post made me scumread a bit. i retracted my scumread tho
Dunker says he scumreads him for his post, I'm assuming for #366, and retracts the scumread both without reasoning.
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Situation 6
In post 414, Spartan117 wrote:Wow you guys didnt post much in the 35 hours I was gone, what do people think of Rayas re-entrance and her decision to keep her vote on Mace, could have been quick hammered and personally I still have not much to go on for reads on most of the slots, and Raya would you have been happy for Mace to be lynched and if so why? You have asked him some questions on your return but I don't see much in the way of evidence to show scummy behavior.
How can you be so sure?
Once again I asked him a question and he provided no answer.
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Situation 7
In post 445, Macemeetface7 wrote:
FoS Dunker
First you nullread me, when assemble puts me at L-1 you scumread me and want a claim, when I say "no" you back off, now assemble throws a shade on me that has already been thrown before (chuck also said I'm deliberately confusing things) and that make me scum for you agian
Why me and Spartan? Do you have your own thoughts about that, or are you just echoing the thread?
And don't tell me
is the reason me and Spartan are scumbuddies, because that's a very valid point to make against assemble. He has 7 posts in total this game, he is a SE and he was here from the very start
Mace asks Dunker the reasoning as to why he mentioned a Spartan/Mace scum team, this was his response.
In post 453, Dunkerdoodles wrote:@mace i was just throwing it out there as a possibility that i would look into further. something about spartan's posts was pinging me a bit, they almost feel fake and fabricated, but i'm not sure. i also found that you guys rarely mentioned each other in your iso's, which felt a bit strange considering you have been 2 of the biggest contributors.
anyways, i could see you guys still being town, again i just threw it out there and i also wanted to see if anyone else saw you 2 as possible partners.
So he states that we are the two biggest contributes, (not sure if that is valued in post quantity or post quality, because im 4th in terms of post numbers.) but has had something ping him about my posts stating that they feel "fake and fabricated" and that he is not sure, continuing to not present any evidence of where this has occurred and what it may have been that looked strange to him about my posts.
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Situation 8
In post 448, Macemeetface7 wrote:I just remembered you said you don't give reasonings for your reads. Maybe I should have asked you first instead of voting you then. Can you explain your 180 on Spartan?
Mace also asked why he did a 180 on his read on me which Dunker followed up with, that he didnt do a 180 he simply retracted his townread although not explaining why, potentially because he saw something that pinged him but continues to not present any evidence to back up his thoughts.
In post 454, Dunkerdoodles wrote:also i didn't do a 180 on spartan, just retracted my townread on him. he's null for now.
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Situation 9
In post 456, Spartan117 wrote:
What made you think of a Mace and Me scum team any interaction in particular, I'll make even easier for you what post from me led you to believe I am scum?
I then asked if there was any interaction in particular that gave him the reason to think of a Mace/Spartan team and then tried to simplify it for him on just asking for a post that led him to believe I was scum, I was searching for some evidence of his thoughts that I so dearly desired as it all just seemed like opinion and simple speculation.
He then stated that he answered my question, to which he still has not and asked what exactly do I want to know, to which I replied.
In post 460, Spartan117 wrote:
You already answered my questions? Please show me the post where you explained what posts of mine struck you as scummy or if you wish to word it as took the town read you previously had to a null read.
In post 453, Dunkerdoodles wrote:something about spartan's posts was pinging me a bit, they almost feel fake and fabricated, but i'm not sure. i also found that you guys rarely mentioned each other in your iso's, which felt a bit strange considering you have been 2 of the biggest contributors.
If this is the post you are referring to? Because if saying that "something about my posts pinged you a bit, they almost feel fake and fabricated, but im not sure" I dont actually see a post number or any indication even to what page of the thread that you saw a post which gave you the above feeling, so "exactly what I would like to know" like I stated in #456
I tried to further dig for evidence that he so deeply did not wish to share.
In post 464, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
that was the post i was referring to.
i was just talking in general. no specific posts or anything.
again, it's mainly just gut, i won't actually scumread you without evidence, i was just pointing out something i noticed.
Dunker says he was just talking in general with no specific posts or anything, clearly just trying to fob me off with some generic view that has no actual evidence to support it.
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Situation 10
Here Dray asked him on who he would want lynched, and he responds 15 mins later with this.
Dray then follows up pushing for an answer to his question.
In post 478, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
i didn't respond because i wanted to come back to it later, because i wasn't sure at the moment.
He claims that he didn't want to respond because he wasn't sure at that moment although this post is not 5 hours later and he still does not present an answer to drays question.
I then also chase him up trying to get an answer to drays question as I was also curious of his opinion in the matter to which he responds with.
In post 485, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah, i'm thinking mace is a good lynch
even if he flips town (i'd say it's like 65/35 he flips scum/town) his lynch gives us a lot of info.
i don't think assemble is a good lynch because his town flip gives us no info. if he's scum we can deal with him later.
He says he thinks mace is a good lynch believing he is 65% chance of being scum he also states that even if he flips town his lynch gives us a lot of info, I follow up asking why he believes this and to provide his reasons.
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Situation 11
In post 487, Spartan117 wrote: In post 485, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah, i'm thinking mace is a good lynch
even if he flips town (i'd say it's like 65/35 he flips scum/town) his lynch gives us a lot of info.
Why do you think it would be a good lynch? Please provide evidence with posts and explanations.
65% sure isnt great but ok, what info do you think his lynch would give us, say, with him flipping town or him flipping scum?
While this is happening he also asked me about being pocketed by Mace to which I answered along with providing this follow up question above, he responded after my comments about pocketing but does not respond to my follow up question at all, thus continuing to provide no reasoning for why he wants to lynch Mace.
In post 495, Spartan117 wrote: In post 487, Spartan117 wrote: In post 485, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah, i'm thinking mace is a good lynch
even if he flips town (i'd say it's like 65/35 he flips scum/town) his lynch gives us a lot of info.
Why do you think it would be a good lynch? Please provide evidence with posts and explanations.
65% sure isnt great but ok, what info do you think his lynch would give us, say, with him flipping town or him flipping scum?
Would be nice if you would answer my questions Dunker.
I continue to follow up trying to get an answer out of dunker as he keeps avoiding my questions, and I feel he is delaying from them long enough to the point that I get the impression he feels they will get forgotten about.
This is shown again in his responce to my follow up
In post 502, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 495, Spartan117 wrote: In post 487, Spartan117 wrote: In post 485, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah, i'm thinking mace is a good lynch
even if he flips town (i'd say it's like 65/35 he flips scum/town) his lynch gives us a lot of info.
Why do you think it would be a good lynch? Please provide evidence with posts and explanations.
65% sure isnt great but ok, what info do you think his lynch would give us, say, with him flipping town or him flipping scum?
Would be nice if you would answer my questions Dunker.
tonight i promise
And here it is folks Dunkers great explanation as to why he thinks mace is scum he detailed reasoning with quotes and all the evidence you could ever ask for.
In post 514, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 502, Dunkerdoodles wrote: In post 495, Spartan117 wrote: In post 487, Spartan117 wrote: In post 485, Dunkerdoodles wrote:yeah, i'm thinking mace is a good lynch
even if he flips town (i'd say it's like 65/35 he flips scum/town) his lynch gives us a lot of info.
Why do you think it would be a good lynch? Please provide evidence with posts and explanations.
65% sure isnt great but ok, what info do you think his lynch would give us, say, with him flipping town or him flipping scum?
Would be nice if you would answer my questions Dunker.
tonight i promise
i think he flips scum and if not he gives us valuable associations
i'm too lazy to go through and quote posts etc but he's posted so much even if he flips town we'll be fine
sorry i made you wait for this terrible answer
and since he wanted me to vote
VOTE: Mace
L-1
Oh wait no hes too lazy to go through and quote posts, but its alright guys even though dunker has put him to L-1 as dunker puts it "even if he flips town we'll be fine"
