Mini 1939 - Organization XIII (Game Over)

[IV Vexen]

Lex probs town, btw.

[IX Demyx]

I agree

[IV Vexen]

Why are you focusing on a policy lynch, if town?

[VI Zexion]

Vexen, why are you townreading Xaldin?

[IV Vexen]

I'm not. I just want tonights tracker results, because I think they're incredibly valuable regardless of his alignment.

[IX Demyx]

What if I told you I am a tracker of things?

[IV Vexen]

regardless of his alignment

[IV Vexen]

Also, Demy, please do not claim.

Tomorrow is massclaim day, assuming I've missed my guess entirely.

[IV Vexen]

I haven't, not I have.

[IX Demyx]

Pref lynches are Roxas then Xaldin so...

We have isssues.

[IV Vexen]

Why is Roxas advancing the scum wincon then?

[IV Vexen]

Again, parsing. Why do you believe Roxas is advancing the scum wincon, not why would Roxas advance the scum wincon.

[IV Vexen]

Just got a call and have to go pick up a friend from work. Will finish and post theory wall when I return.

[IV Vexen]

Oh. call for theory post is in saved theory post draft. I've come to the conclusion that if I'm not transparent with my thoughts here I will be killed and my thoughts will be lost. Cya later.

[IV Vexen]

I just realized I've been calling myself a wizard again, and that means I'm probably getting shot, so setup spec time.

Inscrutable Roleblocker

There is at most one more roleblocker/jk. Anti isn't stupid enough to force himself to resolve roleblocker loops.

I can skip tonight's phase if I'm alive or not if I'm dead

Guaranteed doctor. This means that scum probably have some sort of extra kill, i.e. bomb, vengeful, suicide bomber. Also, confirmable role.

I'm a neighborzier each day I pick someone to invite to a game that we play in the neighborhood the winner will be loved the next day while the loser is hated.

Confirmable role. In addition to Rox's doublevote and the IC, this is 4/13. I would be astonished if anyone else's role was confirmable (not alignment, role). Additionally, tomorrow, whoever gets invited shouldn't claim until the day after. The big deal about confirmable roles is that their impact on balance is known. This means vig is unlikely, as they would not only be confirmable, but functionally conftown.

Xemnas is aligned with Organization XIII.

1/2 an investigative, more on that later. Possibly double protective, if so scum have at least a roleblocker to counter. At least one protective role (or Xemnas BP) to ensure the role isn't just a targeted nightkill. Probably something else to the role (me and anti have had conversations about how boring being an IC can be). Would be unsurprised by existence of doc/bodyguard or JK/limiteddoc (possibly odd/even night doc). Probably no weak protective.

I am an aero tracker

Night 1 I can track 4 people Night 2 I can track 3 Night 3 I can track 2 and night 4 and on I can track 1

There are at most 3 town investigative roles, and even three requires something comparatively weak, like a one shot cop. More likely, there are two and both have a drawback, such as tracker giving ambiguous guilties.

I have good reason to ask for this, as it would be an incredible boon to our odds of winning if I become confirmed town.

I can fullclaim if players deem the details necessary.

Implied night action in addition to doublevote. My guess would be something along the lines of target someone each night and get a power based on who you target, which would mean the lack of doublevote today is directly tied to the lack of action last night. If so, you need to target Axel tonight and ignore this post. If not you need to ignore this post. Possibly investigative in nature, in which case you do you, and ignore this post.

Either way, this probably gets shot tonight if town and I'm completely fine with that. Protectives should be on Xemnas until tomorrow at the very least.



Xaldin MIGHT be scum, but I'm not interested in talking about that today for two reasons. 1. I fully believe his claim. If we get a guilty from him, he becomes conftown. If we get 0 guilties from him then we have a good chance of multiple innocents given flips later. There's also the chance he targets someone who fakeclaims an action like Luxord's that doesn't have a night visit as part of their action, catching scum. 2. If he's scum, he can't afford to fake the results. This being a role-madness game, he can't afford to make up results given that the odds are good one of us can call him on it. If he does make up results, he has to do so with his scumpartners, and that's dangerous for him as well in the event that literally anyone else has tracking actions, because that would mean catching two scum with one PR result. Further, he will have to tailor his targets to the townminded tracker targets as opposed to people scum would like to track.

Thus, even if he is scum, letting him live for a day and seeing what he says is not only not a bad idea, but useful for town.


BTW, this means that 6/13 have claimed or flipped, at least partially (as in Rox's case). Tomorrow, we need to massclaim.

[IX Demyx]

if I was scum, I wouldn't kill you.

[IX Demyx]

Yw btw, I just saved you.

[Heartless]

Vote Count 2.5

Xigbar [2] - Saïx, Xaldin
Vexen [1] - Xigbar
Saïx [2] - Lexaeus, Vexen
Axel [1] - Marluxia
Demyx [2] - Roxas, Zexion
Roxas [1] - Demyx

Not Voting: Xemnas, Axel, Luxord

6 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2017-09-18 02:19:22).[/color]

[VI Zexion]

Vote: Xaldin

[III Xaldin]

Vote: Xaldin

Cool cool

[VII Saix]

Xaldin's lynch is baseless. If I am alive on D3, I will focus on people who have been wrong both on D1 and D2 lynches.

Also, mass claim is the worst idea anyone has ever come up with.

[XI Marluxia]

I'm not really interested in readslist either Marluxia; I want to hear about whichever reads you have right now that you care about. I don't feel like I have a real sense of what your reads are by going through your ISO and I'd like that to change.

I'd defend Saix and Xigbar from a lynch.
I'd complain if a Roxas one was going through, but I don't really know why.
I would prefer if one of Axel or Vexen gets lynched.

I think these reads are clear enough in my ISO, minus Roxas. What are yours?

[XI Marluxia]

Vote: Vexen

Demyx, if you are being annoyed, I highly encourage that you jump on board. Roxas probably isn't happening today unless I am completely wrong about thread sentiment and it makes sense to give Xaldin a chance to prove himself with a triple track so you might as well do something that will make you happy.

[VIII Axel]

Vote: Saix

Please remember everyone is hated today. This is L2

[VI Zexion]

Marluxia my reads are that I think there's a pretty good chance you're scum with Demyx and either Xaldin or Luxord. I don't think that Xaldin's role has much relevance to their alignment; they almost certainly have the role they claimed regardless of their alignment; there is very little about their play that is town and the way that they've continued to do nothing but aimlessly tunnel Xigbar isn't understandable to me at all if they're town.