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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:38 pm

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*Outting.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:41 pm

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In post 274, Havo wrote:So you're completely fine with outing me? No matter what role I could be?
No, once you claim a very important power role and are not cced, most likely I will unvote
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:44 pm

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In post 276, Mulch wrote:
In post 274, Havo wrote:So you're completely fine with outing me? No matter what role I could be?
No, once you claim a very important power role and are not cced, most likely I will unvote
Tunnel me then.

I'm going to bed. I'll post more tomorrow.

Maybe I'll even question someone and just maybe throw my vote around some.

But no guarantees.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:44 pm

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In post 257, Havo wrote:
No I haven't played it terrible.

HOW THE FUCK CAN I PROVIDE READS WHEN I DONT HAVE ANY WORTH POSTING YET?!?!?!?!?!

What can't you people understand about that???

If I provide a read list it will come across as forced and not genuine. BECAUSE IT WONT BE!!!!!!!

Why are you not worried about read lists from other posters????????
See, the thing for me isn't just the lack of reads, it's that you don't seem to be interested at all in asking people questions about their posts or scumhunting in general. Your focus seems to be entirely on the votes on you and how unfair it all is, and that seems scummy to me. After 250+ votes, are you really saying you've seen nothing worth following up on?
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:45 pm

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We lynch Havo with fire
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:45 pm

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I think this hits red
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:46 pm

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This is what I did in Giga's game to a T lmao
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:46 pm

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In post 267, Mulch wrote:
In post 264, Toranaga wrote:took out relevant parts of it so you misinterpret me better
Where?
you basically responded to a strawman of my arguments for villa reading monkey. You may have misinterpreted it or I may have explained myself poorly, but your rebuttal doesn't refer to anything I explicitly said. I'm talking about things a player did that add to my villa of him, and you're responding to it as if I'm lock clearing the player for any of the specific reasons I did. 'but mafia can play like that!' is a tiresome response.

also I'd prefer if you could go easier on the hard posting and tunneling of players, because your level of confidence is just annoying me right now.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:49 pm

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In post 269, Mulch wrote:People who think that scum can't be the first wagon are bad at this game
that's not even close to what maria said. and I agree with her that at least adds to havo's villa equity, and you shouldn't fake blindness to it because it looks bad on you.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:49 pm

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In post 282, Toranaga wrote:
In post 267, Mulch wrote:
In post 264, Toranaga wrote:took out relevant parts of it so you misinterpret me better
Where?
you basically responded to a strawman of my arguments for villa reading monkey. You may have misinterpreted it or I may have explained myself poorly, but your rebuttal doesn't refer to anything I explicitly said. I'm talking about things a player did that add to my villa of him, and you're responding to it as if I'm lock clearing the player for any of the specific reasons I did. 'but mafia can play like that!' is a tiresome response.

also I'd prefer if you could go easier on the hard posting and tunneling of players, because your level of confidence is just annoying me right now.
Ok. Explain your self then: what made you say he is 90% villager?
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:50 pm

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In post 283, Toranaga wrote:
In post 269, Mulch wrote:People who think that scum can't be the first wagon are bad at this game
that's not even close to what maria said. and I agree with her that at least adds to havo's villa equity, and you shouldn't fake blindness to it because it looks bad on you.

That is exactly what they said. They said the fact it was easy, first, and no counterwagon adds to village equity, which is wrong.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:50 pm

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In post 281, Mulch wrote:This is what I did in Giga's game to a T lmao
that's hilarious, tell me more about your play being aids that pressures villagers to hardclaim.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:50 pm

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It's just so fundmentally wrong on a theory level it's frustrating me to no end.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 286, Toranaga wrote:
In post 281, Mulch wrote:This is what I did in Giga's game to a T lmao
that's hilarious, tell me more about your play being aids that pressures villagers to hardclaim.
First off, how do you know he's a villager?



As scum in Giga's game I literally coasted for 2 days off a "oh, I"m an important power role".
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:52 pm

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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:54 pm

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In post 278, Chip Butty wrote:After 250+ votes, are you really saying you've seen nothing worth following up on?
I meant 250+ posts, of course. And virtually no RVS.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:55 pm

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In post 284, Mulch wrote:
In post 282, Toranaga wrote:
In post 267, Mulch wrote:
In post 264, Toranaga wrote:took out relevant parts of it so you misinterpret me better
Where?
you basically responded to a strawman of my arguments for villa reading monkey. You may have misinterpreted it or I may have explained myself poorly, but your rebuttal doesn't refer to anything I explicitly said. I'm talking about things a player did that add to my villa of him, and you're responding to it as if I'm lock clearing the player for any of the specific reasons I did. 'but mafia can play like that!' is a tiresome response.

also I'd prefer if you could go easier on the hard posting and tunneling of players, because your level of confidence is just annoying me right now.
Ok. Explain your self then: what made you say he is 90% villager?
I already did my friend. you responded to everything with 'BUT SCUM DOES IT TOO' which, as I said, it's tiresome bad logic that takes you nowhere. everything can be in anyone's scum range, that's an irrelevant argument. the important thing is frequency. 90% is a frequency. being engaged and flowing with the thread is more frequently found in villagers than wolves. IDK why you're confused.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:55 pm

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In post 288, Mulch wrote:
In post 286, Toranaga wrote:
In post 281, Mulch wrote:This is what I did in Giga's game to a T lmao
that's hilarious, tell me more about your play being aids that pressures villagers to hardclaim.
First off, how do you know he's a villager?



As scum in Giga's game I literally coasted for 2 days off a "oh, I"m an important power role".
I thought you meant to say you did this to a T in a game, as in you got the guy to hardclaim early.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:56 pm

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In post 285, Mulch wrote:
In post 283, Toranaga wrote:
In post 269, Mulch wrote:People who think that scum can't be the first wagon are bad at this game
that's not even close to what maria said. and I agree with her that at least adds to havo's villa equity, and you shouldn't fake blindness to it because it looks bad on you.

That is exactly what they said. They said the fact it was easy, first, and no counterwagon adds to village equity, which is wrong.
it was fast and looked opportunistic, don't be blind now.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:57 pm

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In post 291, Toranaga wrote:you responded to everything with 'BUT SCUM DOES IT TOO'
no
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"This is just wrong. Engagement does not equal town and being suspicious is easily faked by scum players. Perhaps more important, though, is that this point in time he had been doing some bullshit questions on me that made absolute no sense and the fact you didn't take it into consideration is really worystome. And something else of note- I would expect more of good players and hold them to a higher standard in townreading and scumreading people and I know that you have a high skill level, which makes it bad that your townreading someone based on activity and confidence. "


I am saying it's bad that you didn't take into account that none of what he was saying was actually good and that you were blanket reading him for being engaged and active and confident. You didn't even say one thing about his posts.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:58 pm

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In post 293, Toranaga wrote:
In post 285, Mulch wrote:
In post 283, Toranaga wrote:
In post 269, Mulch wrote:People who think that scum can't be the first wagon are bad at this game
that's not even close to what maria said. and I agree with her that at least adds to havo's villa equity, and you shouldn't fake blindness to it because it looks bad on you.

That is exactly what they said. They said the fact it was easy, first, and no counterwagon adds to village equity, which is wrong.
it was fast and looked opportunistic, don't be blind now.
It wasn't opportunitic at all, it was a good wagon. Fast is MORE INDICATIVE OF SCUM IN EARLY DAY 1

wtf is wrong with this game, this is basic theory, scum always bus early day 1 and then diffuse when a fast wagon grows, if anything it's NAI but no it's actually more scum indicative
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:59 pm

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'engagement does not equal town' not what I said.
'blablabla he asked me questions I didn't like' not something I care about.
'I thought you were better' yeah I thought you were better too, now we both look aids to each other. GJGE.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:00 pm

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relax with your 'basic theory' posts too, that's arrogant and annoying.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:01 pm

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In post 296, Toranaga wrote:'engagement does not equal town' not what I said.
Then clarify what you said
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:02 pm

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In post 296, Toranaga wrote:'blablabla he asked me questions I didn't like' not something I care about.
No, he pointed out shit points and asked useless questions, which you didn't even comment on
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