Chance that CLG would have qualified and not IMT if they didn't trade Xmithie for Dardoch? Like... 80%? There was a brief period where it seemed like it might work out well for both teams but time sure made that trade look silly. Of course, trading for Dardoch is even dumber than trading for FORGIVEN
They might've made it if they didn't kick Dardoch. He was obviously bad for the team but they got wins. Big maybe, of course. Impossible to tell when his bad teammate-ness would overpower his good-playerness.
They'd never admit it, but I think it's clear that kicking Dardoch for Omargod was a clear decision to sacrifice a spot at Worlds 2017 in order to try and improve the organization longterm.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
I'm not so sure. I think if they were convinced keeping Dardoch would lead to a spot, they would have kept him. I don't think you take on Dardoch unless you've made that deal with yourself (let's call it the Team Liquid bargain). But it's not clear to me that he would have allowed his team to do so.
Like... look at the meta right now and what Dardoch is actually good at. Maybe Dardoch going off-meta would work out for him, but he clearly wasn't comfortable on Gragas despite being his most played champion.
I hope they keep Omar for next season. I think he could do well if allowed to start at the beginning.
To clarify I don't necessarily think that CLG with Dardoch goes to Worlds. I just think that CLG with Omar clearly would not.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
I don't agree. I don't think there was ever a scenario where they could beat any of IMT/TSM/C9 with Omar in the Jungle. Heck, even NV almost knocked them out purely because of how bad Omar was.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
So um... I guess I'm going to seriously mess up my sleep schedule. I usually go to bed at 10pm and read for half an hour. Now I need to stay up until 4am or later. My wife is not going to like this.
Boohoo, you have to adjust your sleep, Riot's cutting into my "watch anime at work" schedule and it's fucking bullshit.
But seriously, Just catch the 7am re-run. Riot always does that shit, where they re-run night stuff in the morning, they did it for some other major event, so I'm sure they'll do it for worlds.it's not like you gotta worry about spoilers because like...you're gonna be sleeping then you're gonna wake up and watch the games, just turn of twitch chat cause its trash.
(1:55:11 AM) ahallucinogenic: it's ok drench
(1:55:21 AM) ahallucinogenic: it's perfectly normal for young children to walk in on their parents making love
(1:55:31 AM) Drench394: i can't wait
Oh good. Games run from 1am-7am ET. Perfect timing, really.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
Even Riot seems unclear if the Play-in Stage is part of Worlds or not. If Cloud9 fails to make it out of the Play-in stage, it's not clear whether next year Riot will say "Cloud9 has made it to Worlds 5 straight years" or not.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record