Mini 1939 - Organization XIII (Game Over)

X Luxord · Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:15 am

I think part of the problem is that you are more or less betting the game on this flip.

I don't particularly like multiple possible outcomes with that.
Best case is he flips scum, you're town and we keep lynching scum and it's sunshine and roses/daisies/etc.
Frankly, I don't think this is beyond your scum play though, and I think it would be dishonest of me to pretend that I don't feel like that option is possible.
There's also the possibility that you're both town and you're completely destroying the gamestate by pushing this if you're wrong. We arguably lose the game if that's the case and we follow through here with what you want.

Take a step back from Vexen being obviously scum to you.
The case you've laid for him being scum makes a lot of sense, but it only resonates on a level that's relevant to you, right? Like, all of your points hinge on you being town and are centered around your experiences with him.
That's hard for people to digest.
I think you're going to struggle to rally people behind that in general and in a deadline situation of you vs Vexen I'm honestly feeling like you get lynched just because of where general sentiment is at.

Axel is a plausible consensus lynch.
If you think he's scum, it's probably the path of least resistance to a scumlynch at this point.

I Xemnas · Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:33 am

In post 1672, II Xigbar wrote:Vexen's emotions being genuine doesn't mean that he's town though. None of his feelings were anything that were even remotely contingent on being town.

I realize that.

It's more a question of which alignment would be more open, controlled, etc.

It was the distant humor that I was scum reading to some extent originally, among other things.

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:36 am

Oooh Xemnas is the third. How quaint?

Alignments aren't contingent on honest emotions. There is no alignment that is "more controlled". You can't say you realize that then contradict yourself in the very next sentence dude.

Guessing those other things mean a scum role PM.

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:37 am

In post 1675, X Luxord wrote:I think part of the problem is that you are more or less betting the game on this flip.

I don't particularly like multiple possible outcomes with that.
Best case is he flips scum, you're town and we keep lynching scum and it's sunshine and roses/daisies/etc.
Frankly, I don't think this is beyond your scum play though, and I think it would be dishonest of me to pretend that I don't feel like that option is possible.
There's also the possibility that you're both town and you're completely destroying the gamestate by pushing this if you're wrong. We arguably lose the game if that's the case and we follow through here with what you want.

Take a step back from Vexen being obviously scum to you.
The case you've laid for him being scum makes a lot of sense, but it only resonates on a level that's relevant to you, right? Like, all of your points hinge on you being town and are centered around your experiences with him.
That's hard for people to digest.
I think you're going to struggle to rally people behind that in general and in a deadline situation of you vs Vexen I'm honestly feeling like you get lynched just because of where general sentiment is at.

Axel is a plausible consensus lynch.
If you think he's scum, it's probably the path of least resistance to a scumlynch at this point.

Lynchshopping is a federal crime in all countries indicative of scum and deserving of death.
Did you mean to post that in the scum PT?

II Xigbar · Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:37 am

Xemnas is confirmed town

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:38 am

In post 1657, X Luxord wrote:
In post 1652, V Lexaeus wrote:You know why. I am looking for the explanation to see if one was ever given:
(I'm gonna be honest. I don't know why.)

You mean you don't acknowledge the PT?

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:38 am

In post 1679, II Xigbar wrote:Xemnas is confirmed town

How? /me hasn't gotten that far

II Xigbar · Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:39 am

It's in the OP

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:41 am

Derp. Thanks.

Xemnas stop defending obvScum.

II Xigbar · Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:42 am

Or you're just bad

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:43 am

In post 1684, II Xigbar wrote:Or you're just bad

Nah. If you knew what Luxor did to me before night ended you'd be thinking like I do too.

II Xigbar · Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:44 am

Well you're scumreading me

II Xigbar · Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:44 am

You're also voting me

X Luxord · Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:45 am

In post 1685, V Lexaeus wrote:Nah. If you knew what Luxor did to me before night ended you'd be thinking like I do too.

Oh.
I still don't get it.

X Luxord · Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:46 am

In post 1678, V Lexaeus wrote:Lynchshopping is a federal crime in all countries indicative of scum and deserving of death.
Did you mean to post that in the scum PT?

Nah I meant to post it in the game.
Sorry to disappoint you!

X Luxord · Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:47 am

Also don't really get how that post is lynchshopping given that I'm voting the person I'm asking Xig to vote for there.
Lol.

There are better posts you could throw up if you want to pitch me as lynchshopping, on the last page even.

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:49 am

Fair Game @Luxord?

X Luxord · Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:50 am

Like, I get what you're referring to.
I don't get how it's scummy?
I also can't really explain why my predecessor chose you unless he mentioned why he was going to sometime during D1?

II Xigbar · Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:52 am

Lex can you not be voting me

V Lexaeus · Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:59 am

In post 1692, X Luxord wrote:Like, I get what you're referring to.
I don't get how it's scummy?
I also can't really explain why my predecessor chose you unless he mentioned why he was going to sometime during D1?

Oh you inherited a scumslot.

I can't find the reason why.

X Luxord · Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:02 am

Let me know when you're caught up/if you plan on catching up and then we can talk.
I hope you'll put a little more effort into trying to sort me than you have so far at the very least.

I Xemnas · Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:34 am

In post 1683, V Lexaeus wrote:Derp. Thanks.

Xemnas stop defending obvScum.

If you want to tell me what to do you will have to convince me you're worth listening to.

Reading the game would be a good start.

I Xemnas · Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:37 am

luxord at a guess I think he's blming your neighborhood for the global night block.

X Luxord · Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:56 am

The neighborhood isn't the only function of my role and at this point Lex also knows about it.

I Xemnas · Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:00 am

In post 1677, V Lexaeus wrote:Oooh Xemnas is the third. How quaint?

Alignments aren't contingent on honest emotions. There is no alignment that is "more controlled". You can't say you realize that then contradict yourself in the very next sentence dude.

Guessing those other things mean a scum role PM.

Please talk your scumbuddies into killing me tonight. I will be screaming at you through my monitor by mid day 3 if you keep writing posts at me.