TBD Mafia 2 [game over]

[Srceenplay]

still V/LA for less than 24 hours.

VOTE: bulb

[Bulbazak]

@Eddie: Also, pay attention to how she shifts over the next couple of days.

Just going to hot drop the reads I have so far. Snarky, Sly, Vecna, Mario, and Dan are all town. Dreal is likely town as well, although if we do get confirmation of multiball, I'll need to revisit this. I think Eddie might be town here, but only because I think he chose town on the survey to increase the odds that we'd land the same alignment. I believe he knew that I was really not interested in playing scum this game. Same deal for Alisae. I know from Day and Night that she doesn't really like scum, so I think she opted for town or some sort of survivor role here. I also think Mastina is probably town, mainly due to the way she entered the game. I don't think she'd deal with the questionarre in the same way as scum. She'd be displaying more confidence, and it's apparent that she has no idea what to do with the information she's got. I might need to reevaluate later, because this is Mastina we're talking about, but I'm feeling pretty confident here. I'm leaning town on Midget and Dunker. They're both almost there, but I want to see more. Mulch is also likely town, but he's a good vig or policy target, and like I said, how he's claimed doesn't sit well with me. My strongest scumread is Chickadee. Everyone else I'm still working on.

this is a bunch of empty nothing
pretending to be something

Thanks for confirming that you're really not doing any comprehensive reading this game. It helps explain why you've missed so much. Instead of trying to parse my analysis and critically dealing with it, you've just dismissed it whole hand. Heck, if you actually had taken the time to go through what I wrote, I would have expected a certain type of question or push from you, but the fact that hasn't come means that you're not even trying to read me at this point.

bulba is probs just town being obstinate

With Dreal? Can't argue that. But it's all been explained why I've done so. When I was pushing Dreal, I felt that he was trying to look for something to latch onto in order to argue himself out of a hole. That's why I didn't tell him why I was scumreading him, because I didn't want to give him a smokescreen to hide in. He didn't ask me "Why are you scumreading me?" or "Explain your vote.", rather he asked me to give him a case, as if I had an A to B case at that point in the game. I saw a player who was looking for weaknesses he could exploit to discredit my push, and I didn't want to give him an inch. As for Lycan, I had been upfront with Eddie that I wasn't going to reveal my reasons for voting him at that time, and I had just recently told Mastina that I wanted her votes on Lycan to "light a fire under him". Dreal asking for a case soon after was redundant and absurd. That's why I asked if he was still scumreading Lycan and why. For someone who professed to have a strong scumread there, he sure seemed to be trying to do anything but vote there.

Dreal can be best described as a player who thinks too highly of himself, yet he keeps forgetting to ask the right questions or observe what is really going on around him. He's also very active and does wield some degree of influence in this game, although I'm skeptical about how long that will last. It's that influence that I think scum will start to latch onto, and they're going to start using him as a puppet soon, if it hasn't started to happen already.

And hey, Screen's vote makes me think I may have stumbled onto something with Lycan and we have a legit counter situation happening right now. We're going to get a lot of information out of these wagons.

[Dunkerdoodles]

is it possible mod lies is enabled and not mafia is actually scum?

[Bulbazak]

That's what I thought immediately when NM said he knew for sure there were mod lies. For the moment, I'd like to believe enough people voted against there being mod lies, because otherwise, that might make this game more difficult than it has any right to be.

[chesskid3]

it's a bastard game the above Is a waste of time day 1. wagon scummy people ignore game wifom

[Randomnamechange]

is it possible mod lies is enabled and not mafia is actually scum?

why does nm out that fact if scum tho

[chesskid3]

do I have to start rolling up newspapers and whacking people on the nose?

[SnarkySnowman]

Toby scummy

[Toby Determined]

I know you are, but what am I?

[drealmerz7]

wow, bulb, thou art truly t'rrible and just full of the horror
I didst asketh thee wherefore thou art SRing me, I didst asketh thee wherefore thou SR others, thee did refuse to engage, multiple times

just wend kicketh the bucket already

[drealmerz7]

I wanteth to knoweth how someone hast been on the site f'r 5 years sucks so t'rribly at the most basic aspects of the game

[drealmerz7]

I cullionly, t's cleareth that gent's just scum yond hast nay idea how to beest scum
but t's so fucking painful to tryeth to engage with, how doest anyone beareth t?
t's liketh "ohhey, i'm scum, i'll beest a trolling dickbag and sore because i knoweth not what else to doth!"

[Randomnamechange]

bulba were you and eddie scum in Hunger Games?

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.08

5 players voting for Lycanfire (ActionDan, Vaxkiller, Bulbazak, EddieFenix, Desperado)
5 players voting for Bulbazak (drealmerz7, Lycanfire, chesskid3, Not_Mafia, Srceenplay)
3 players voting for SlySly (Mulch, Dunkerdoodles, randomidget)
2 players voting for Toby Determined (Chickadee, SnarkySnowman)
2 players voting for Vecna (mastina, mastina)
1 player voting for Desperado (Vecna)
1 player voting for Ginngie (Toby Determined)

2 players not voting (SlySly, MarioManiac4)

with 21 votes, it takes 11 to lynch.

day 1 will end in (expired on 2017-09-19 19:30:00).

mod note: Srceenplay is V/LA until Monday.

mod note: I interpreted post 1012 as a vote for SlySly (for whom Mulch was already voting), since that was the last one that appeared in the post.

[xyzzy]

MarioManiac4 has been prodded.

[drealmerz7]

2 days, folks
*pokes pokes pokes*
consolidate or make a push for your preferred wagon
there's no need for any of this to drag on

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Toby Determined

Can we do it??????

[drealmerz7]

I still see no reasons why
why do you want to kill that guy?
seems reckless and bad
what advantages are to be had?

[MarioManiac4]

He is openly trolling.

[EddieFenix]

He is openly trolling.

They're not even on the active player list!

[Chickadee]

MM4, as much as I wanted to see it happen, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

I'm gonna tip the scales toward the bulba wagon.
VOTE: Bulbazak

This day really did slip by, or maybe I was sleeping for most of it, but it's time to make real choices, and Toby is not happening today.

[EddieFenix]

welcome to TBD Mafia 2:

[INSERT SEQUEL SUBTITLE HERE]

! here's a list of players:

1. Srceenplay
   
2. randomidget
   
3. Not_Mafia
   
4. Chickadee
   
5. Desperado
   
6. SnarkySnowman
   
7. SlySly
   
8. acidphoenix
   chesskid3
   
9. EddieFenix
   
10. Bulbazak
    
11. Vecna
    
12. drealmerz7
    
13. MarioManiac4
    
14. Mulch
    
15. WhyMafia
    mastina
    
16. Dunkerdoodles
    
17. LycanFire
    
18. ActionDan
    
19. Vaxkiller

the following players are still alive:

Spoiler: living players

1. Srceenplay
   
2. randomidget
   
3. Not_Mafia
   
4. Chickadee
   
5. Desperado
   
6. SnarkySnowman
   
7. SlySly
   
8. chesskid3
   
9. EddieFenix
   
10. Bulbazak
    
11. Vecna
    
12. drealmerz7
    
13. MarioManiac4
    
14. Mulch
    
15. mastina
    
16. Dunkerdoodles
    
17. LycanFire
    
18. ActionDan
    
19. Vaxkiller

the following players are no longer alive:

Spoiler: dead players

important game events:

1. beginning of day 1/votecount 1.01
   
2. votecount 1.02
   
3. votecount 1.03
   
4. votecount 1.04
   
5. votecount 1.05
   
6. mastina replaces WhyMafia
   
7. votecount 1.06
   
8. chesskid3 replaces acidphoenix
   
9. votecount 1.07
   
10. votecount 1.08

At any point, is there a Toby listed? Y/N? If yes, please get your eyes/head checked. If no, please put your vote somewhere useful.

[MarioManiac4]

Votes for them clearly count.

I don't like the Bulbazak lynch. I don't think he's "playing dumb"- regardless of if you agree with him his stances seem realistic enough.

[drealmerz7]

He is openly trolling.

and thee bethink scum wouldst doth yond, wherefore? f'r the wifom?
I bethink most wondrous to just vig that gent D3 and ign're that gent oth'rwise

[EddieFenix]

Votes for them clearly count.

I don't like the Bulbazak lynch. I don't think he's "playing dumb"- regardless of if you agree with him his stances seem realistic enough.

If anything, IF there were enough votes for yes for the mod to to have the ability to lie, then they can lie about the vote count and player Toby being a player. Honestly, do we really need to "test" the theory of Toby being a player and the mod having the ability to lie day 1?