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Post Post #4750 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:01 pm

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In post 4740, wavemode wrote:Yoshi you know what we want to know. If you can't tell us at all then say that
I can't tell you anything you don't specifically ask for.
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Post Post #4751 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:36 pm

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In post 4747, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 4745, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4744, skirt skirt wrote:if i wanted to avoid lynching flairs I could've easily done it, same with game. :)
Why would you avoid lynching Flairs? I kind of feel like you were, but you were going for that bus cred.
someone said this was his town meta, and i was doubting based on that. then i did my own super quick meta dive and called that out as bs, thats why i revoted him and told dunker to hammer.

nobody answered me - who said flairs was town on meta? whoever it was is probably scum
I said that. And then I believe I'm the one who started the Flairs wagon. (I know vca shows me third, but I was on Flairs, then went to two, then back to Flairs.)
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Post Post #4752 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:42 pm

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In post 4751, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4747, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 4745, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4744, skirt skirt wrote:if i wanted to avoid lynching flairs I could've easily done it, same with game. :)
Why would you avoid lynching Flairs? I kind of feel like you were, but you were going for that bus cred.
someone said this was his town meta, and i was doubting based on that. then i did my own super quick meta dive and called that out as bs, thats why i revoted him and told dunker to hammer.

nobody answered me - who said flairs was town on meta? whoever it was is probably scum
I said that. And then I believe I'm the one who started the Flairs wagon. (I know vca shows me third, but I was on Flairs, then went to two, then back to Flairs.)
Okay. I don't think you're scum here (it would require both a scum kidamn and a town wave with a wrong soft inno AND even then it requires kidamn to have faked an inno on his partner when down). That was bad meta, but you know that having voted him. I was the second to vote flairs, I switched off later and then back on. Same with game though, his lynch was certainly not inevitable, that wasn't a deadline lynch. If you're trying to force yourself to scumread me subconsciously, that's pure paranoia.
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Post Post #4753 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:54 pm

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I'm not scum reading you. I just stated that you aren't as obv town as some people are stating. I still think you belong in the town section.
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Post Post #4754 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:58 pm

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I stated early game that if any of my Boon Babes were scum, I'd figure it out later in the game. My Boon Babes were Flairs, Theta, and Dunker. All of my babes are dead by Day 4. And all of the people that were clouding my reads, Nero, Gerry, and Osuka, are either dead or taken care of.
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Post Post #4755 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:04 pm

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Okay, actually, you know what.

VOTE: Yumeko Jabami

This is scum.
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Post Post #4756 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:08 pm

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I feel like there's gotta be one more scum at least off the GR wagon, and he only people unflipped off the GR wagon are:

Boonskiies
Kid
Yumeko
Dave
Titus slot

Sure, GR was inactive, so scum could bus, but why would, assuming 5 scum, 3 scum choose to bus? That would mean all three people would have been busing their partner when they knew they didn't have to. Una was a traitor, so they didn't necessarily know.

We already know Flairs was scum on GR wagon, and I bet at least one other is on the wagon, but likely one is still off. One on, one off.
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Post Post #4757 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:16 pm

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Spoiler: vote counts with only real flips shown
In post 3178, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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Game Replacement (11 - LYNCH):
Creature
, wavemode, TwoInAMillion,
Nero Cain
, MarioManiac4, Mary Saotome, Eddie Cane,
Flairs
, massive,
Dunkerdoodles
, gerryoat
UnaBombaH (2): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz
TwoInAMillion (2):
Game Replacement
, Boonskiies
Titus (2): KidAmn,
Assemblerotws

Mary Saotome (1):
Theta Alpine
davesaz (1):
osuka


Not Voting (2):
UnaBombaH
, Titus

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.
In post 3603, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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osuka (10 - LYNCH): MarioManiac4, Titus, TwoInAMillion,
Dunkerdoodles
, Eddie Cane,
Nero Cain
, Mary Saotome, gerryoat, Boonskiies, KidAmn
Nero Cain (1): wavemode
Titus (1):
osuka


Not Voting (8): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz,
Assemblerotws
, Mary Saotome, massive,
Theta Alpine
,
Flairs
, KidAmn

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.
In post 4321, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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Nero Cain (8): Eddie Cane, wavemode, Boonskiies,
Dunkerdoodles
, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion,
Flairs
, Titus
Eddie Cane (1):
Nero Cain

Dunkerdoodles (1): MarioManiac4
Flairs (1): Mary Saotome

Not Voting (5): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz, massive, KidAmn

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

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Next VC: World record for longest head hair
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In post 4575, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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Flairs (8): Mary Saotome, TwoInAMillion, Boonskiies, Yumeko Jabami, gerryoat,
Nero Cain
, Eddie Cane,
Dunkerdoodles

Yumeko Jabami (2): KidAmn, davesaz
Dunkerdoodles (2): MarioManiac4, Titus
Titus (1):
Nero Cain

Eddie Cane (1):
Flairs

Mary Saotome (1): massive
massive (1): wavemode

Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

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Spoiler: vote counts with my strong reads shown - this is what i believe to be more useful
In post 3178, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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Game Replacement (11 - LYNCH):
Creature
,
wavemode
,
TwoInAMillion
,
Nero Cain
, MarioManiac4, Mary Saotome,
Eddie Cane
,
Flairs
, massive,
Dunkerdoodles
, gerryoat
UnaBombaH (2): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz
TwoInAMillion (2):
Game Replacement
,
Boonskiies

Titus (2):
KidAmn
,
Assemblerotws

Mary Saotome (1):
Theta Alpine

davesaz (1):
osuka


Not Voting (2):
UnaBombaH
, Titus

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.
In post 3603, BigYoshiFan wrote:
V
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osuka (10 - LYNCH): MarioManiac4, Titus,
TwoInAMillion
,
Dunkerdoodles
,
Eddie Cane, Nero Cain
, Mary Saotome, gerryoat,
Boonskiies
,
KidAmn

Nero Cain (1):
wavemode

Titus (1):
osuka


Not Voting (8): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz,
Assemblerotws
, Mary Saotome, massive,
Theta Alpine
,
Flairs
,
KidAmn


With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.
In post 4321, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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Nero Cain (8):
Eddie Cane
,
wavemode
,
Boonskiies
,
Dunkerdoodles
, gerryoat,
TwoInAMillion
,
Flairs
, Titus
Eddie Cane (1):
Nero Cain

Dunkerdoodles (1): MarioManiac4
Flairs (1): Mary Saotome

Not Voting (5): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz, massive,
KidAmn


With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

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Next VC: World record for longest head hair
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In post 4575, BigYoshiFan wrote:
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Flairs (7): Mary Saotome,
TwoInAMillion
,
Boonskiies
, Yumeko Jabami, gerryoat,
Nero Cain, Eddie Cane, Dunkerdoodles

Yumeko Jabami (2):
KidAmn
, davesaz
Dunkerdoodles (2): MarioManiac4, Titus
Titus (1):
Nero Cain

Eddie Cane (1):
Flairs

Mary Saotome (1): massive
massive (1):
wavemode


Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

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Nero lynch gets counted for VCA, since it was, after all, a successful lynch aside from the mod error.

What's important to note is the Nero lynch did actually happen, despite the mod error, which is awesome for VCA. I don't normally do VCA because I don't like it or value it, but fuck it, this is a large and I'm bored. I'm using the second spoiler ftr, the first is only for reference.

The most important thing I notice is Titus is on both town lynches and neither scum lynches, while actively distracting from the Flairs wagon, hard pushing the Nero wagon, and in a slot that has been pushed as scum many times this game. Mulch's replace out does not carry this far, Titus has lost her townread and needs to reearn it but tbh FoS Titus. Massive looks bad too, voting Game immediately after another scum, and then voting Mary day 3. Tbf, Massive wasn't on either mislynch, but eh. Flairs lynch being all town makes sense when you see the 4 living people not on the wagon asides Wave are Dave, Mario, Titus, and Massive, aka most of the scum pool. Mario or Titus being scum makes sense too, unless you want to assume the Osuka lynch was all town (or yumeko/gerry is scum).

Yea, doing this is reminding me how little I care for VCA, I'm happy with these reads.

{skirt skirt, tiam, boon}
{kidamn, wave}
-- probably never voting above this line --
{gerry}
-- would not lynch the above today --
{yumeko}
{mary}
-- would ideally not lynch above today, but would be ok with it --
{titus, dave}
{mm4, massive}
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Post Post #4758 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:17 pm

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In post 4755, Boonskiies wrote:Okay, actually, you know what.

VOTE: Yumeko Jabami

This is scum.
i don't think so. those interactions with una don't look traitor-scum to me, and mary lock townreading them reassures me yumeko is town unless mary flips red.
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Post Post #4759 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:17 pm

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In post 4753, Boonskiies wrote:I'm not scum reading you. I just stated that you aren't as obv town as some people are stating. I still think you belong in the town section.
i think im obv town but w.e doesn't matter atm
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Post Post #4760 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:18 pm

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I actually think Titus is a strong vig kill candidate if Yumeko flips town. Titus is one of the 5 off the GR wagon that I was looking into. 3 I was looking into, not 5.
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Post Post #4761 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:18 pm

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In post 4758, skirt skirt wrote:
In post 4755, Boonskiies wrote:Okay, actually, you know what.

VOTE: Yumeko Jabami

This is scum.
i don't think so. those interactions with una don't look traitor-scum to me, and mary lock townreading them reassures me yumeko is town unless mary flips red.
VOTE: Daveas willing to go here too.
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Post Post #4762 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 4760, Boonskiies wrote:I actually think Titus is a strong vig kill candidate if Yumeko flips town. Titus is one of the 5 off the GR wagon that I was looking into. 3 I was looking into, not 5.
I am good with a Titus vig, would probably prefer MM4 still but doesn't make a big diff to me.
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Post Post #4763 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:20 pm

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I'm pseudo voting dave, I think the massive wagon is bigger so I'm still here physically atm.
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Post Post #4764 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:21 pm

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mass claim is going to be so slow if we popcorn properly with players this idle, boon, are you ok with all 6 of yumeko/mary/titus/dave/mm4/massive claiming as they come? i think it saves time, and hey, gives the fun dynamic of reading into claiming times and how they go about it
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Post Post #4765 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:22 pm

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I actually think dunker might have bodyguarded me. Scum could have been trying to strongman kill me, but then they shot through Dunker. Strongman would still kill bodyguard.
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Post Post #4766 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:22 pm

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now, this game has had weird nks that nobody's really commented on (thanks mario :lol:) and i love nka, so let's go
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Post Post #4767 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:23 pm

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In post 4764, skirt skirt wrote:mass claim is going to be so slow if we popcorn properly with players this idle, boon, are you ok with all 6 of yumeko/mary/titus/dave/mm4/massive claiming as they come? i think it saves time, and hey, gives the fun dynamic of reading into claiming times and how they go about it
Yeah, I actually don't like popcorn mass claiming all the time in general, and this game doesn't need it.

So yeah, the 6 of them can claim when they come in, we don't have a specific order, just want the claims. I think you should claim too, but whatever.
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Post Post #4768 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:24 pm

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In post 4765, Boonskiies wrote:I actually think dunker might have bodyguarded me. Scum could have been trying to strongman kill me, but then they shot through Dunker. Strongman would still kill bodyguard.
mod - if player Charles is a bulletproof bodyguard, player Andy is a strongman, and player Mitch is a vt, with no outside influence, if Charles and Andy both target Mitch what happens?


This is resolved differently by different mods.
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Post Post #4769 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:25 pm

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In post 4767, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4764, skirt skirt wrote:mass claim is going to be so slow if we popcorn properly with players this idle, boon, are you ok with all 6 of yumeko/mary/titus/dave/mm4/massive claiming as they come? i think it saves time, and hey, gives the fun dynamic of reading into claiming times and how they go about it
Yeah, I actually don't like popcorn mass claiming all the time in general, and this game doesn't need it.

So yeah, the 6 of them can claim when they come in, we don't have a specific order, just want the claims. I think you should claim too, but whatever.
yumeko/mary/titus/dave/mm4/massive
- claim when you see this. full claim, including any actions you took and why you targeted said people. no bullshit wifom of changing your claim at the end of mass claim or i'm death tunnelling you jsyk. :)

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Post Post #4770 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:25 pm

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Creature died because he was on GR and against so many town people getting lynched adamantly. Theta died because the Osuka wagon was very town orientated and scum wanted to get someone who wasn't directly involved anywhere so that the game would stay as is. Theta was also someone I was never going to be open to lynching. Dunker died because he bodyguarded me and they tried strongmanning me.
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Post Post #4771 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:26 pm

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I expressed a townread on theta, did you?? I don't remember a single other player doing so
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Post Post #4772 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:27 pm

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Creature was the only kill that really made sense, and Dunker if Dunker was bging someone. I doubt it was you though, didn't he scumread you? More likely Wave I thinks?
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Post Post #4773 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:28 pm

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Creature kill makes me suspect MM4 a bit more. Other than that, doesn't do anything for me, he was obv town as shit, never getting lynched, and was a major part in GR's lynch.
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Post Post #4774 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:30 pm

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hm. Theta seemingly fosd mm4 too, how cute. other than that, his iso is extremely bare of reads, I'm going to go ahead and call it a bad kill for virtually any scum team - theta was not a threat. it is probably a low info kill because scum were happy with the gamestate after lynching osuka, boring stuff. i love when scum do suboptimal things for wifom, makes life easier as town :lol:

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