17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

[Ginngie]

okay but this book I'm reading smells fucking divine

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Bins

Sounds good

UNVOTE: Spiffeh, VOTE: Whemestar

I can buy that your chesskid vote was serious. But if that's the case, and your read on fire was presumably even stronger, I have no idea why you'd immediately join him on a wagon.

Vibes.

What's nice about 69?

Scum would love to encourage 0kg people to claim today; xyzzy pointing out the reason why they would try to do it and explicitly saying it wasn't worth it today is good.

I totally expect that from whemestar tbh

[hitogoroshi]

My issue with that is that nobody was saying 0kg people should claim at that time were they?

No, but I think scum would want to open the conversation with wanting to spread the cocaine out, then sit back and hope a townie brings up having 0kgs claim. I don't think they proactively take a "not today" stance.

[chesskid3]

My issue with that is that nobody was saying 0kg people should claim at that time were they?

No, but I think scum would want to open the conversation with wanting to spread the cocaine out, then sit back and hope a townie brings up having 0kgs claim. I don't think they proactively take a "not today" stance.

Fair enough I'm not going to disagree with that.

Also I figured out a way to break the game

get 6 cocaine
get modkilled

[hitogoroshi]

Worth noting I had a similar mechanic for Abarat II. This is how I templated it out:

You know that at least one element of the game depends on who "killed" the target. The killer of a player is either the person who used a killing ability on them, or the person who cast the final vote on them. In the event that neither of these players is alive, the last living person to vote for the target is considered the "killer". In the unlikely case that none of these players exist or are alive, the "killer" will be randomly chosen and informed as such.

I have to imagine Fakegod has "killer" similarly well-defined.

[Firebringer]

Also I figured out a way to break the game

get 6 cocaine
get modkilled

FG could just redistribute coke lost with modkill or change scum win condition.

Although getting urself modkilled to deny scum chance to win sounds funz

[chesskid3]

you people think you're so damn smart

[Firebringer]

Yes

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Bins

Sounds good

UNVOTE: Spiffeh, VOTE: Whemestar

I can buy that your chesskid vote was serious. But if that's the case, and your read on fire was presumably even stronger, I have no idea why you'd immediately join him on a wagon.

Vibes.

What's nice about 69?

Scum would love to encourage 0kg people to claim today; xyzzy pointing out the reason why they would try to do it and explicitly saying it wasn't worth it today is good.

I totally expect that from whemestar tbh

That's how I roll

[ActionDan]

I don't really know how people can get a read off of 69/71 either way. And even tonally I think 71 sounds better.

I agree with Hito that for how cocksure Wheme was about Chesskid, the sudden jump off unto fire and then bins for what I can mostly just assume are lolz and lol wagons! respectively is jarring.

I'd go vote there but I also don't like Bins saying "trust me guys, I'm town, give your coke cokes to me!" instead of prioritizing critically reading the game.

Also I wonder when the game will become exciting enough for Spiffeh to re-engage with it.

[ActionDan]

oh wasn't a really a wagon yet. just lolz then

[Firebringer]

The bins wagon is vest wagon so far, will a superior wagon appear before today ends?
You will know more about that at 11.

[chesskid3]

Really stretching this newscaster copycat meme after my post firebringer

can't you make an original meme

[Firebringer]

I could but I like beating the horse while it's barely breathing

[xyzzy]

a better wagon will definitely come up because a dumb vague claim isn't enough to lynch someone on

anywho: it occurs to me that starting on day 2 and beyond, if we have a choice between lynching two people and one of them has hammered someone, we should lynch that person, because if they happen to both be scum, the one who theoretically might have the maximum amount of cocaine is the one to go with

[grapes]

Probably a dumb question but

@mod; What happens to a players coke who self-hammers?
Also could a situation occur where scum could no longer obtain enough kilos to win and if so, even hypothetically, who wins in that situation?

[Firebringer]

a better wagon will definitely come up because a dumb vague claim isn't enough to lynch someone on

anywho: it occurs to me that starting on day 2 and beyond, if we have a choice between lynching two people and one of them has hammered someone, we should lynch that person, because if they happen to both be scum, the one who theoretically might have the maximum amount of cocaine is the one to go with

Worthless

[grapes]

Scum would love to encourage 0kg people to claim today; xyzzy pointing out the reason why they would try to do it and explicitly saying it wasn't worth it today is good.

That's fair; it's just one of those things where one of us is paying attention to what someone is saying while the other is paying attention to how they're saying it.

[Bulbazak]

a better wagon will definitely come up because a dumb vague claim isn't enough to lynch someone on

anywho: it occurs to me that starting on day 2 and beyond, if we have a choice between lynching two people and one of them has hammered someone, we should lynch that person, because if they happen to both be scum, the one who theoretically might have the maximum amount of cocaine is the one to go with

Gut is telling me there's something incredibly wrong here, but I don't have the deep theory background to figure out what it is.

[grapes]

That's too much analysis this early hito

I'm going to share a bit of the thought process behind my firebringer vote.

But first I'd like to know what about hito's analysis you think is coming too early + how that affected your read and where exactly you made the conclusion that he was town later.

[Firebringer]

Wtf you talking about thought process.

[grapes]

and you know for what's technically a lolwagon a bins vote sounds kinda... boring?

pedit: you know that thing in your skull that allows you to say things and think; there's normally a bit of a step by step process that goes with it

[Firebringer]

and you know for what's technically a lolwagon a bins vote sounds kinda... boring?

pedit: you know that thing in your skull that allows you to say things and think; there's normally a bit of a step by step process that goes with it

Yeah I don't think you did this with regards to reading me.
I haven't done anything read worthy

[grapes]

You don't think that I had a thought process behind my read on you or you don't think I should read you based on what your thought processes are?

[FakeGod]

Probably a dumb question but

@mod; What happens to a players coke who self-hammers?
Also could a situation occur where scum could no longer obtain enough kilos to win and if so, even hypothetically, who wins in that situation?

Self-hammerers'

Cocaine

go to the last person to vote them.

A situation where we run out of

Cocaine

seems impossible/highly unlikely, but hypothetically if that happens, I'll call it town victory.