Mini Normal 1948: BooneyToonz V - The Boon 'N Bed Express!

[Theta Alpine]

wait deadline is less then 2 days away
was that on purpose

Nope.

[Theta Alpine]

what

you srs lol

i didnt even look, posted, then looked at the vc afterwards

yeah well a little earlier and you would have hammered

which makes me think
maybe you were early bussing and thus did not pay attention to how many votes your scumbuddy was at

so i am going to VOTE: klazam

[Theta Alpine]

not really
your tchill vote was a stop throwing shade at me vote

[Theta Alpine]

How is mulch worse than taco? Mulch selfhammered as town. end discussion. It might have "worked" that game, but its 100% always a antitown move to self hammer. period.

nope
vengeful in lylo

[Theta Alpine]

vengeful in a 1-2 lylo once the other player does not hammer

p-edit
he also announced it

[Theta Alpine]

You guys really think scum would have been that careless to bus without looking at vote counts? Come on now... Scum calculates their moves.

P-Edit: Holy fuck this Klazam wagon is really bad

Scum calculates their moves? But Tchill as scum would place an opportunistic vote early which would definitely lead to a lot of attention on Tchill? Interesting.

Also, if you replace tchill with Klazam, this sentence also works, so you just destroyed your own logic for calling Klazam scum.

no
tchill knew what he was doing
klazam did not

[Theta Alpine]

vengeful in a 1-2 lylo once the other player does not hammer

p-edit
he also announced it

i just agreed with you. thats one of only 2 cases. so forgive me for using hyperbole. the actual percentage is like 98% now. happy?

oh sorry
it did not read as an agreement

[Theta Alpine]

Town would trade a townie for scum every time. There's no benefit from a scum pov in what I did in the long run.

What?

town has more members than scum
therefore a 1 to 1 trade benefits town more then scum

[Theta Alpine]

to catch scum quick-hammering
obviously

p-edit
yeah that

[Theta Alpine]

So, tchill, do you scumread Klazam then?

Most slots are null at the moment. Including klazam.

Oh really?

What happened to this?

Or you're annoyed that mulch has proven he can sniff out the scum team pretty well. Why would you be annoyed at that? Because you're scum.

keyword is most

[Theta Alpine]

oh

thought you were talking about mulch

[Theta Alpine]

why are we doing fake mason claims again

it only causes confusion

[Theta Alpine]

klazam that unvote was so bad -.-

He succinctly answered me about why his play were different this game. i unvoted because i have nothing else to go off of with him. dont see how its bad.

also lol keep on pairing me and taco.

I also feel compelled to mention english is actually a second language for me and taco. Step up your grammar game bro, your second sentence dont make no sense in english.

Maybe english is doodle's second language too, klazam..... assuming can be bad xD

the third line was talking to you, taco, not doodle, sorry for not making that clear

it was close to correct
replace experiment with experimentally and it is correct grammar

[Theta Alpine]

as for the whole dunker-mulch claiming masons thing

there was a recent-but-still-ongoing game that the three of us were in where there were about 10 of those fake mason claims
so it was kind of an in-joke if anything

[Theta Alpine]

ok this is really pissing me off
it should've been obvious the fact i wasn't actually mason. it was a reaction test, and it got good reactions and bad reactions. it also sparked discussion which helps town. it really shoudn't have created confusion, to be honest i probably shouldn't of retracted the claim because that's what caused the most confusion, anyways

in the spirit of being completely clear me and mulch ARE NOT masons, neighbors or anything

See, this makes no sense to me because how would Mulch know to play along with your mason fakeclaim?

as for the whole dunker-mulch claiming masons thing

there was a recent-but-still-ongoing game that the three of us were in where there were about 10 of those fake mason claims
so it was kind of an in-joke if anything

[Theta Alpine]

I'm town

okay

VOTE: skirt skirt

[Theta Alpine]

VOTE: theta alpine

he agreed I'm town ("ok") then voted me. scum claim.

i was going to say something and then i read chip buttys post

thank you chip butty
thank you for saying that

so instead i would like to highlight three of the words in the second sentence of that post

This is truly breathtaking in its directness, utter simplicity, and, dare I say, sheer audacity. I mean, isn't this what we all want to say, with every post,

regardless of alignment

? Skirt Skirt has captured the distilled, crystal-pure essence of Mafia in this disarmingly forthright two-word post, and I, for one, am filled with unadulterated admiration and gratitude. Thank you so much, Skirt Skirt.

[Theta Alpine]

I'm town

theta isn't

this and that post are fluff

ftfy

[Theta Alpine]

well yes

but it was to point out the irony
and i think making a fluff post is worth pointing out the irony in another
obviously you think so as well

[Theta Alpine]

uh

okay now i think that mulch might be chainsawing
so how bout we lynch dunker and see if he flips scum

VOTE: dunkerdoodles

[Theta Alpine]

VOTE: dunker

VOTE: Skirt Skirt

I guess we just have to figure out the reasons on our own.

i mean

it seems kind of obvious

at least the second one does

[Theta Alpine]

What's bad about the wagon?

It comes from bad reasons

how are they bad

[Theta Alpine]

which i guess is bad for you

cause if dunker flips scum then the next lynch would be fairly obvious

[Theta Alpine]

He could be scum, but I don't think he is

well of course you would say that

you are defending him

[Theta Alpine]

okay

i mean people seemed more okay with voting dunker then mulch so you could just vote dunker and see how he flips

[Theta Alpine]

ugh can you stop arguing about pointless things please

cause seriously can we not have a big fight of egos this game
it gets people distracted when we should be lynching scum

[Theta Alpine]

ugh can you stop arguing about pointless things please

cause seriously can we not have a big fight of egos this game
it gets people distracted when we should be lynching scum

this is not pointless, pointless is sifting through pages of serg/dunker/chip doing their weird ass back and forths

okay fine

what are you even talking about then

[Theta Alpine]

mulch vs eddie = scum theatre?
just a thought

FoS: Dunkerdoodles

I already know you're scum, shut up and let me talk to mulch.

wait why would you need to fos someone you already know is scum

also wait how do you know dunker is scum

[Theta Alpine]

wait why would you need to fos someone you already know is scum

also wait how do you know dunker is scum

because my vote is preoccupied

because reading easy to read players is easy. i have only played with town dunker. this is not that.

okay that makes sense
so i guess it was intent in a way then

alright i will agree with you there
who is not voting dunker other than mulch

and mulch why do you think dunker is town

p-edit
okay if i had any doubts about dunker being scum before i no longer have them

[Theta Alpine]

how

like seriously how did i mess that quote up

[Theta Alpine]

wrong game eddie
wrong game

[Theta Alpine]

boon could you fix 469

I'm trying to figure out what you did, but I have no clue.

[Theta Alpine]

mumble and havo need prods

and as for what is going on at the moment
people are voting other people
mostly sergtacos and dunker based on the last vote count

[Theta Alpine]

so why not vote the one most of the other people are voting then

[Theta Alpine]

an ellipsis indicates a pause or a breath in a sentence

[Theta Alpine]

wait what happened to all the votes on dunker

[Theta Alpine]

wait wait wait

just caught up but now i have noticed something

fykus why did you vote mulch after dunker claimed an investigation on him

[Theta Alpine]

Ok so I think Fykus's role is the most likely since I don't see why he would claim something so crazy like that. I'm willing to settle for Mulch or Assemble today.

then why would fykus have believed dunkers investigation
if fykus targeted mulch with an ability that would have prevented investigations

[Theta Alpine]

i know
fairly sure both mulch and dunker are scum at this point

but i think fykus was in on it as well

[Theta Alpine]

and i am thinking about this too

if dunker had managed to survive this then his vig would just be his factional kill
loyal modifier because then it ensures only town get killed
fykus would be able to explain the lack of factional kills on those days because either his bp got hit or he had prevented the kill
mulch could have done that as well if he had survived today by being another source of potential failed factional kill

not sure why mulch said there was multiball though
cause 10:3 or 9:4 is decent

p-edit
both mulch and fykus are good players
they could have done it

and it would be safe to assume daychat at this point
unless they planned this at night
but i seriously doubt that

[Theta Alpine]

oh yeah i should probably
VOTE: fykus

the whole dunker v mulch thing reeks of being given a choice of two sub-optimal lynches
so why not cut the rope and lynch the person they were not expecting

p-edit
do you really expect that they planned all of that in a single night
although i will say that my conclusion of daytalk draws from the assumption that fykus is scum

[Theta Alpine]

Theta, your vote is bad.

i get that a lot

do you have a better idea

[Theta Alpine]

i definitely want to wait and hear what fykus says before lynching anyone though

[Theta Alpine]

wait i have a question

is fykus ever town in this

whether or not dunker and mulch are town/scum fykus lied about his role and used it to push someone else

[Theta Alpine]

fykus voted someone for a guilty investigation while knowing that the guilty investigation was impossible

anyone against a fykus lynch right now is scum or completely incompetent

[Theta Alpine]

fykus claims he commuted mulch
therefore any actions targeting mulch would fail

then dunker voted mulch citing a guilty investigation
fykus immediately followed it by voting mulch thus displaying that fykus believed the guilty investigation

as for why mulch voted himself
no clue

but he did not claim scum

p-edit
that is actually a reason to believe him

[Theta Alpine]

Guys on assembler are the ones my post are directed at. There's no sense in voting fykus and I will not discuss that as an option.

there is no scenario where fykus is town

unless you can give one
the burden of proof is on you

explain why you do not think fykus is scum
or explain why regardless of his alignment that fykus is a bad lynch

[Theta Alpine]

tchill and havo

i can see scenarios where mulch is town
i cannot see scenarios where fykus is town

all of my arguments for these have been made
counter them

discussion is the only way we can progress
and refusing to discuss prevents us from progressing

also havo stop parroting and use your own words
it makes you look like scum and i do not want any more distractions

[Theta Alpine]

Fykus is town as long as mulch doesn't flip town commuter.

wrong

fykus is scum regardless of whether mulch is town or scum

p-edit
that was a poor way to do it then
you made several posts before dunker why not vote mulch then

also what do you mean actual boon created role
like you said no one is realistically going to have the role you claimed
pretty safe for you to claim

[Theta Alpine]

wait is that an actual rule

[Theta Alpine]

wait

that is an actual legitimate rule
that boon can only have one custom role per game

[Theta Alpine]

i have not claimed yet

i want to see where the rule is first
cause i remember there being more than 1 custom role in boons last game
i was one of them

[Theta Alpine]

okay i am going to say this

i have had reason to believe fykus fake-claimed because of my own role
i did not want to reveal this before because i found a narrative that allowed me to prove fykus to be lying without revealing either my role or status as a power role

[Theta Alpine]

I also actually tried to discuss fykus with theta and he just said "wrong" lol.

no

i gave a reason why fykus was scum under any circumstance and the only thing you did was say i was wrong

like i said
burden of proof was on you
i gave an argument
you can either make one of your own
or counter my argument

p-edit
no
not if i do not have to

p-edit2
no that was only the reason i gave
fykus did not make any action against mulch
that is why i was tunneling him

[Theta Alpine]

either that or i got blocked

[Theta Alpine]

my action targeted mulch
but i have confirmed with the mod that my action would have resolved before fykus

i do not get results

[Theta Alpine]

okay then

if we are doing a massclaim i see no reason not to claim

i am a rolestopper

[Theta Alpine]

i already said that

it was mulch

[Theta Alpine]

you were the one with the list

[Theta Alpine]

fykus = enchantress
mumble = null
carcalilly = null
tchill13 = vt
klazam = null
assemblerotws = null
tywinl = tracker
dunkerdoodles = loyal odd night vig
theta alpine = rolestopper
mulch = odd night commuter
chip butty = vt
havo = vt

so we have 4 claims left

p-edit
mulch is a rather good player that some people could be afraid of

[Theta Alpine]

i thought he was town when i did the action

then he self-voted

[Theta Alpine]

i thought he was town when i did the action

then he self-voted

Why did you think I was town, and the self vote was literally out of frustration. I explained this, so why are you still scumreading it?

i am holding all judgments until after the massclaim is done

and i thought you were town because i had reread your interaction with dunker
and realized that would be pretty bad for scum to do

[Theta Alpine]

because i was never given a chance to post after i realized that

[Theta Alpine]

because i was never given a chance to post after i realized that

What changed in your mind between both of us are scum and I’m town and so is dunker?

at that time my thought was that you and dunker was not svs
and that you were town

i was still wanting to lynch dunker

[Theta Alpine]

because he did a lot of scummy things day 1

look back at my posts that day i explained it then

[Theta Alpine]

why lynch assembler when its confirmed that fykus or theta are lying based on the fact there's only one non normal role allowed?

okay i should probably clear something up

i am not a custom role

i was asking about the rule because i distinctly remembered there being more than 1 custom role in boons large normal
so i was about to push fykus or whoever brought that up for giving out false information

but it turns out you are limited to 2 custom roles in a large
and 1 in a mini

[Theta Alpine]

yeah

like i said i was one of them

[Theta Alpine]

Interesting theory actually, but what about the nightkill?

Mulch WAS commuted by Fykus. So he couldn't kill.

Theta probably role stopped a VT. But claimed to RS Mulch.

hahahahaha no

that is literally the worst possible way i could have used my ability as scum

[Theta Alpine]

havo i would have rolestopped the person doing the night kill
like there is literally no better way to use this ability as scum then to do that

[Theta Alpine]

hmm

boon in a hypothetical situation there is a tracker and there is also a mafia goon
if the goon uses the factional kill against a person who is either commuting or has been targeted by a rolestopper
and the tracker targets the goon
what does the tracker receive for a result assuming no other interference

[Theta Alpine]

unless carcalilly claims a role that could stop a night kill
mulch is 100% town for me

[Theta Alpine]

no we are waiting on carcalilly

[Theta Alpine]

there are only three roles that have natural action resolution above jailkeeper

commute which is self-targeted
and roleblocker/rolestopper

i was one of the first to claim

[Theta Alpine]

me and mulch could not be scum together in this situation

i would have used my ability on mulch to ensure that he could successfully make the night kill

and clash of the gods just ended and had 2 town roleblockers
so it is possible
and is likely for balance since we would cc each other

[Theta Alpine]

this is also a boonskiies game

read the disclaimer

[Theta Alpine]

no

from my perspective mulch is lock-town

think about it
i used an ability that would prevent kills but also ensure that that players actions went unhindered
if mulch had made a night kill it would have gone through
even if mulch had targeted fykus then it would have worked since fykus would not have been protected by his role
therefore the only possibility is that mulch got targeted by the night kill

p-edit
i am not cleared if you flip town mulch
i am cleared if you flip scum

[Theta Alpine]

although if you did flip scum i would have some serious questions
like where the hell did the night kill go

[Theta Alpine]

i am against the mulch lynch for mechanical reasons

basically let me rephrase
i have a clear on mulch for mechanical reasons
assuming that carcalilly cannot prevent kills
and that mulch would not be the night kill if mulch is scum

[Theta Alpine]

i was not on for the first part of this day
and when i did my partial claim i limited myself to 2 valid full claims
1 because only the rolestopper would clear mulch

[Theta Alpine]

Hey havo where did the nightkill go.

What DONT you understand???????

Fykus Comuted U.

Theta lied.

then lynch me
and watch me flip rolestopper

[Theta Alpine]

Havo don't change your mindset until the others get on. We do not negotiate with scum lol. Mulch is the lynch you know this havo.

"OMG THERE IS IT THEY STILL CAN'T LYNCH THEIR SCUM PARTNER" - Mulch

so instead of lynching the cop with the inno you are going to lynch the person with the inno
good job

VOTE: tchill13

not sure why dunker voted havo
havo passed the test

[Theta Alpine]

i was only gone for 20 minutes

[Theta Alpine]

remember to post intent before hammering

[Theta Alpine]

that is what 100% means

[Theta Alpine]

handle what

[Theta Alpine]

claim

everyone but you has claimed we are only waiting on you

[Theta Alpine]

handle what

Havo's proposal.

that brings up an interesting paradox

in that havo proposed to lynch me after i suggested that he lynch me
if i suggested that havo lynch me it makes sense that i would be prepared for that
and yet if the scum-team were caught flat-footed by that

[Theta Alpine]

sure

i was gonna stop you before anyone hammered to note that carca had not claimed yet

but now that carca is on she can claim and we will not have to worry about that

[Theta Alpine]

sergtacos - 2 shot neighborizer

- CONFIRMED

mumble = vt
carcalilly = ??
tchill13 = vt
klazam = non consec bg
assemblerotws = vt
tywinl = tracker
dunkerdoodles = loyal odd night vig
theta alpine = rolestopper
mulch = odd night commuter
chip butty = vt
havo = vt

here is the list of claims carca
i was not lying when i said everyone but you has claimed

[Theta Alpine]

The amount of people I'm comfortable with being in lylo right now if it comes to that is zero lol.

so i take it you are not comfortable with yourself being in lylo

[Theta Alpine]

final list of claims

mumble = vt
carcalilly = vt
tchill13 = vt
klazam = non consec bg
assemblerotws = vt
tywinl = tracker
dunkerdoodles = loyal odd night vig
theta alpine = rolestopper
mulch = odd night commuter
chip butty = vt
havo = vt

and of course sergtacos flipped 2-shot weak friendly neighbor

[Theta Alpine]

analysis of roles

6 vanilla
3 protective + 1 self-protective
1 investigative + 1 killing/investigate + 1 misc/investigate

[Theta Alpine]

claimed actions
and their results

tywinl tracks havo
tywinl recieves your target did not go anywhere

dunker vigs mulch
fails due to mulch commuting

theta alpine rolestops mulch
fails due to mulch commuting

mulch commutes
mulch cannot make any actions and all actions on mulch fail

fykus force-commutes mulch
fails due to mulch commuting

also just realized fykus is not in that list
i will fix that now

[Theta Alpine]

final list of claims

mumble = vt
carcalilly = vt
tchill13 = vt
klazam = non consec bg
assemblerotws = vt
tywinl = tracker
dunkerdoodles = loyal odd night vig
theta alpine = rolestopper
mulch = odd night commuter
chip butty = vt
havo = vt
fykus = enchantress

and of course sergtacos flipped 2-shot weak friendly neighbor

ebwop

[Theta Alpine]

fykus wants to say stuff know that we have all claimed

so no one hammer yet