TBD Mafia 2 [game over]

[Bulbazak]

Bulba wagon sure had awesome people on it... It's pretty suspicious that it looks possibly wholly devoid of scum? Like, mayyybe Src or D7 or something but honestly I would not be at all surprised if that is 6 townies voting for a player without a single scum helping them. I guess I need to read Bulba more!!

I'm thinking there are likely 2 scum there. I didn't really like the build up starting with Chess on.

[Llamarble]

This squirming is great.

Still Bulba's towniest post for me? I get the feeling it may be within his scumrange though.
"I'll read it later" on Desp and on Eddie while more or less protecting them for today I find very viable from Bulbascum. Also his read on Mario has the flavor of "I know he is town because I am scum so it is easy to townread him." So maybe Bulbascum without Marioscum??

With Dreal? Can't argue that. But it's all been explained why I've done so. When I was pushing Dreal, I felt that he was trying to look for something to latch onto in order to argue himself out of a hole. That's why I didn't tell him why I was scumreading him, because I didn't want to give him a smokescreen to hide in. He didn't ask me "Why are you scumreading me?" or "Explain your vote.", rather he asked me to give him a case, as if I had an A to B case at that point in the game. I saw a player who was looking for weaknesses he could exploit to discredit my push, and I didn't want to give him an inch. As for Lycan, I had been upfront with Eddie that I wasn't going to reveal my reasons for voting him at that time, and I had just recently told Mastina that I wanted her votes on Lycan to "light a fire under him". Dreal asking for a case soon after was redundant and absurd. That's why I asked if he was still scumreading Lycan and why. For someone who professed to have a strong scumread there, he sure seemed to be trying to do anything but vote there.

Dreal can be best described as a player who thinks too highly of himself, yet he keeps forgetting to ask the right questions or observe what is really going on around him. He's also very active and does wield some degree of influence in this game, although I'm skeptical about how long that will last. It's that influence that I think scum will start to latch onto, and they're going to start using him as a puppet soon, if it hasn't started to happen already.

And hey, Screen's vote makes me think I may have stumbled onto something with Lycan and we have a legit counter situation happening right now. We're going to get a lot of information out of these wagons.

Hmm, first paragraph can easily be a true story from either alignment, especially this early on. "Skeptical how long influence will last" is interesting though.

[drealmerz7]

llama, thoughts on 2 scumteams?
*watches bulba burst at seems*

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.11

6 players voting for Llamarble (Desperado, mastina, mastina, MarioManiac4, Srceenplay, Vecna)
4 players voting for MarioManiac4 (Vaxkiller, Llamarble, Mulch, chesskid3)
2 players voting for Bulbazak (drealmerz7, Chickadee)
2 players voting for Toby Determined (SnarkySnowman, SlySly)
2 players voting for Srceenplay (Bulbazak, ActionDan)
1 player voting for Desperado (Dunkerdoodles)
1 player voting for SlySly (randomidget)
1 player voting for Serious Vote (Toby Determined)

1 player not voting (EddieFenix)

with 20 votes, it takes 11 to lynch.

day 1 will end in (expired on 2017-09-23 10:00:00).

mod note: SlySly has been prodded.

[Mulch]

VOTE: Desperado

This is scum. I have mod confirmation.

[xyzzy]

in case you didn't know, there's a

Magic the Gathering

prerelease this weekend, so I'll be pretty busy and updates will be somewhat infrequent!

[Alisae]

Oh yeah BTW I can't die

[Vaxkiller]

STUMP!

Was there a plan here?

[drealmerz7]

Oh yeah BTW I can't die

Highlander is a personal favorite
I highly savor it

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Desperado

This is scum. I have mod confirmation.

I'm highly skeptical
does this belong in the trash receptical?

[Alisae]

I claimed macho because I thought on the occasion someone shoots me for some dumb reason then kill wasted but tbh I want vigis shooting others tbh

[drealmerz7]

right on
aslan

[drealmerz7]

D3 could be a riot
no reason to keep that quiet

[Bulbazak]

"Skeptical how long influence will last" is interesting though.

I think that either events will take place after this day phase that make players disregard Dreal more, the scattered strong town that are in the game start getting together and playing better starting on d2, or scum turn on him. Already we're seeing Dreal lacking the influence he had earlier in the day, so I don't think I'm going to be far off here. I'm leaning towards stronger town taking over the game in the next day or so, or for the scum team to start turning on Dreal in the next couple of game days.

[Srceenplay]

Could we really have to scum wagons?

[Srceenplay]

*teo

[Srceenplay]

Holy shit

*two

[EddieFenix]

So what did you think of all that stuff that happened around that wagon?

"I got a plan! Trust me! I can't reveal why I am doing this just yet. Just trust me, I know what I'm doing"

-1 replace later-

"It was for pressure"

-mrw I think Bulb has this elaborate plan and it turns out to just be not much of anything at all-



Like, let me get this right, you ran up a wagon on Lycan.... Got people to move and maneuver, fought for the wagon, heck I even talked to Mastin about leaping on because I trusted your judgment call on it and was willing to hear out this big old, elaborate plan come day 2 as to why you ran it up. To find out..... After Lycan replaced out..... It was for pressure............

Just want to say up front as well, thank you to people for not spamming the shit out of the thread for the last 2 days and making it to where when I come back to the thread, the catch up is manageable and not, "jesus tap dancing christ, why!!!!!". I've been busy af. So, y'all are much appreciated. Also, Bulb, I'll trust you.

Vote Lycanfire

I'm a bit curious about this relationship. Is this "I'll trust you" a towntell from Eddie? Unsure.

Like, I'm trusting that Bulb has an elaborate plan... Thinking he's being genius and then it's.... juuuuuuust pressure... Just.....



Like.... Here's the thing.... This for Bulb mainly.... I don't believe it was "just pressure". Cause there's no way you go off the reservation like that for -just pressure-. Like, I at least have faith you were doing it for some VCA or at least wagon analysis. It's why I keep dropping the eye twitch gif because it's just like.....

[Bulbazak]

Yes, it was for pressure. When I told you I couldn't tell you why I was voting for Lycan and I just needed you to trust me, that was for pressure. I wasn't going to say so out loud, because then it wouldn't be as effective. When I asked Mastin to plant both of her votes on Lycan to "turn up the heat", I was asking for an increase in pressure. Then Chess entered and buddied up to Dreal, and Desperado voted Lycan, and then the floodgates opened on me. And I'm sitting here, looking at some very scummy votes that just materialized on me out of nowhere and thinking, "What have I stumbled onto?". And I'm just waiting for something from Lycan, because that's what I was waiting for the whole time, and there are tons of reactions and townreads materializing on the spot out of nowhere. So at the end I was pushing less because of Lycan and more because that lynch now magically sheds a lot of light on the game state. The only reason I unvoted was because I wanted to see what Marble did, and truth be told, I'm kinda meh there.

[Chickadee]

tbh, I think a third eye twitch gif there would have been appropriate.

Can we lynch Bulba now?

[drealmerz7]

pressure votes are a joke
who wants to share a toke?

[drealmerz7]

ftr, I don't buy it as a "pressure vote"
that's all I wrote

[Bulbazak]

It doesn't matter what you buy. That's what it was. Heck, you could have inferred that way back when I told Mastin I wanted her votes to "turn up the heat".

[Chickadee]

@ Toby - how about TWO trejo pics?

no 1 had given me any more trejo pics for my stockpile. something good will happen if you all give me a trejo pic

sure, I'll bite

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[Llamarble]

llama, thoughts on 2 scumteams?
*watches bulba burst at seems*

As in, multiple scum factions?
I am not factoring that in yet and I don't see much reason to.