Regardless of your or even my alignment making you feel bad is not my intention here and not worth it to me.In post 896, Keychain wrote:@Plus: The game I'm referring to. I can point you to more specific parts if you want.
It's a slightly different situation from this one if I'm understanding you correctly. RC replaced into a scum slot D2 and in trying to get a pretty strong townie lynched, offered a 1 for 1, even though if they were both town that would have lost us the game.
The similarities I'm seeing here are my main reason for townreading RC through that debacle was that I didn't think he would take that gamble as scum. He and his partner swept.
Yeah, don't count on it, that ship has sailed. Instead continue making me feel like I'm kicking a goddamn puppy.In post 893, RadiantCowbells wrote: If keychain is actually town here I guess she'll just literally never townread me
You do understand why I'm scumreading you, right?
I see what you're getting at. But I mean - was Huntress commenting less on Nictis than other players?northsidegal wrote:it's not huntress specifically, i guess it's just scum in general. going off the idea that in general scum try to avoid attention, huntress' actions make sense in that context with the lurking and not mentioning the scum partner. it's hard to do something like find anti-town motivation in someone's reads because reads are subjective, so you have to look at the context around the reads, ie is it an omgus vote or is it a chainsaw vote or is it disingenuious or things like that. i was asked based on the nictis interactions who looks the worst, and to me it seems like that's huntress.
I mean it's worth pointing out that he also potentially tried to lay a false trail with CheekyIn post 90, Nictis wrote:darren is slightly paranoid that he's gonna be targetted for next to no reason (humor is still appreciated, even if it falls flat!) you seem to be grabbing attention and working through the information fairly, which is why I expect you might ne dead tomorrow, and nobody else really stands out.
but that makes me slow to scumread Darren.In post 743, Nictis wrote:I don't want to die, and it's been obvious that this would go on until either Cheeky or I get lynched. I know I'm town, and I *know* she's scum and that's why I've been pushing so hard against her, even if it makes me appear as the obvious bad guy.
Also you guys _REALLY_ neeed to stop doing this because that's now two people (excluding me) who have forgotten that they are supposed to have innos.In post 897, Keychain wrote:North, why do you think Huntress would avoid talking about a partner? I wonder if that might have been because she's low activity, not because of a link between them. I haven't checked whether she talked about Nictis less than the rest of the players.
Oh, okay.RadiantCowbells wrote:He said that he expected Darren to wind up dead tomorrow because he was grabbing attention and working through the information fairly.
Barring Nictis being far more skilled than we realized and intentionally laying a false spew very early on in the game, that makes Darren town.
did not include any associative reasoning?In post 663, RadiantCowbells wrote:{RC, Moisto, +/-, Cheeky}
{North}
{Huntress}
{Keychain, Darren}
{Nictis}
Bloody hell. You're not even going to say what it is in 897 that is somehow breaking your rules?RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll say nothing else about it till postgame for -scum strategy- reasons.
If you're town, I'm flattered.RadiantCowbells wrote:It did. I don't think that WhyMafia is particularly scummy independently. It's mostly only his associatives with Nictis that bring him down.
I'm trying to get past that because some of the stuff that you've said to me I have difficulty believing comes from scum, but I don't actually know your scum game besides as a hydra.
This is way, way above your caliber as a scum player in the Penn & Teller game but I haven't seen your actual scum play.
Are they more by the book tell based? Probably, but that's because I think that my normal way of reading him doesn't work.In post 915, Keychain wrote:I think something you've said here doesn't quite line up. I thought you were scumreading WhyM before Nic, but I can't remember. I'll check. But I still think your reasons for scumreading WhyM are oddly shallow and contrived.
Do you want me to be opposed to being lynched today?In post 915, Keychain wrote:Are you still opposed to being lynched today?
What does it matter what I want? Answer the question. Be yourself.RadiantCowbells wrote:Do you want me to be opposed to being lynched today?In post 915, Keychain wrote:Are you still opposed to being lynched today?
Last bit is too cryptic for me. So you're saying you don't understand why I scumread you? Have I not been clear enough?RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't know why you think that this play is scum indicative, because it's not at all scum indicative for me, but you're looking for something that's not there in this gamestate.
I want you to lynch me. I am reluctant to go through with that because I'm supposed to set a good example as an SE and also because I'm reluctant to trust you guys with the game. But in terms of what would give me the most immediate happiness, that's the clear winner.What does it matter what I want? Answer the question. Be yourself.
I'm trying to get the gamestate to a point where I can start focusing on doing things rather than just being frustrated and mopey. I also don't understand why you think this is scum indicative.In post 922, Keychain wrote:A good start would be showing the slightest fraction of interest in sorting the rest of the game though and finding someone to lynch. Or are you just going to sit today out?
I don't understand why you think that the things that you think are scummy are, but I also think that you have a very one sided view of my gameplay. I don't think you would have any idea how to go about looking for towntells for me and my play is such that no matter what I do there's going to be stuff that reminds you of my scum game and you'll always see me as that until you start forcing yourself to stop. You're not the first person whose seen me in a game as scum then deathtunneled me like crazy over it, and it's not the first time I've just callen it quits. See this gameLast bit is too cryptic for me. So you're saying you don't understand why I scumread you? Have I not been clear enough?