17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

[ActionDan]

That said I don't much care for the fake day-vig stuff plus these last couple of pages but those are NAI fire bringer posts.

[Kagami]

Hey AD, do you have any thoughts on grapes?

[ActionDan]

Uh misguided wrt Firebringer but not scummy. I haven't been paying attention to anything else he's done besides ofc talking with me about bins etc.

[Kagami]

I thought 165 was a strange way to approach game-breaking from a town mindset. I would have expected only the first question and without the "dumb question" prefix if there was legitimate interest and excitement in having potentially uncovered a breaking strategy.

I don't really think xyzzy is terribly scummy. 316 strikes me as very strange, but 71 was a sentiment similar to one I had, not realizing that the typical scum-majority win condition was absent (since it's unnecessary), which would be more salient to scum-xyzzy

I'm chalking WhemeStar's action re:FB/bins up to whimsy, but it does make me somewhat less comfy here on bins.

[Bulbazak]

I don't really think xyzzy is terribly scummy. 316 strikes me as very strange, but 71 was a sentiment similar to one I had, not realizing that the typical scum-majority win condition was absent (since it's unnecessary), which would be more salient to scum-xyzzy

I found 164 to be the problematic post.

[hitogoroshi]

Elli, Bins: Bulba is town and a wagon on him ain't happening today. Please move votes accordingly

Chess: - I am sort of convinced by the town cephir thing. which is to say, he's not really positively town to me, but I'm getting bad vibes from so many people (whemestar as already stated, xyzzy for initially good spec with a really awkward transition, UT for having absolutely no reads but still weirdly specific questions and comments, spiffeh spam posting then falling off the cliff, ginngie just because) that I'm pretty happy to defer on ceph for a bit. and yeah on retrospect 200 was a good post. anyway I was with you in that it seemed like andrius's rep out / Kagamis entrance was skeevy, but looking at kagami iso top to bottom now, looks town to me. think you're buying what I'm selling? feels like the hito, kagami, chess 3-bloc would probably get to set the lynch if we all got that sweet love

[Spiffeh]

You can just write me off as Town if that helps

[hitogoroshi]

You can just write me off as Town if that helps

you get to be town until at least your next post after ellis next post. please enjoy responsibly!

[Spiffeh]

That's an oddly specific allotment of time

[Cephrir]

I don't think we need to be attempting town blocs (which ar emostly a fake thing imo) on page 21 but knock yourselves out I guess

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: Cephrir

[grapes]

it's for just the one reason, but more than just the vote. I'm fine with him going hard on chesskid from the start, and I'm...well, fine is the wrong word but I don't think a bunch of low-impact wagon drifting is that unusual for town here. I don't like the one first into the other.

Why?

That actually doesn't make sense at all. Yes you want to create discussion with a scum read to allow you to better read the slot, but that also applies to non-scumreads as well. If anything, focusing on just players you scum read to create noise is more likely to come from scum.

I don't think that's what bins was doing, though. She was pushing you, a scumread, whether it's noise or not is irrelevant and probably my fault for wording it that way but you get what I mean.

Think about it this way; how is bins gonna get a better read on actiondan by answering him about why she's scumreading you?

VOTE: Ellibirth


Fire, I need granddad's help come join

Do you have any other scumreads?

Where's the confidence here come from?

I thought 165 was a strange way to approach game-breaking from a town mindset. I would have expected only the first question and without the "dumb question" prefix if there was legitimate interest and excitement in having potentially uncovered a breaking strategy.

I don't really think xyzzy is terribly scummy. 316 strikes me as very strange, but 71 was a sentiment similar to one I had, not realizing that the typical scum-majority win condition was absent (since it's unnecessary), which would be more salient to scum-xyzzy

I'm chalking WhemeStar's action re:FB/bins up to whimsy, but it does make me somewhat less comfy here on bins.

There wasn't all that much excitement to my question; I knew that it was a long-shot in hell we would be able to break this by self-hammering to get coke out-of-play but I didn't see anything regarding self-hammers in the OP so figured to ask.

The rest of this post is actually kinda-town- and I don't particularly mind them reading into how I approached asking the question either, just the line "strange from a town-mindset" sorta rubs me wrong.

[grapes]

I don't think there needs to be "an option". You could answer both. That said I should have phrased the question differently because it didn't accurately reflect what transpired. It's not necessarily scummy as it was weird/off-putting, and again, I thought it deserved a followup.

FB is a top town read for the exact opposite of what Xyzzy said, that is, I think he's behaving differently than when he was scum in the last fakegod game I played with him in. He's a bit more serious here and I've liked his reads so far and his posts are just, better.

Well the only reason I said given the option is because you guys more or less asked the same thing; if you're the rare species of internet dweller that doesn't like listening to themselves talk then it makes sense to me to only answer it once and to prioritize a scumread who you haven't gotten a chance to push all that much yet.

I guess I'm just trying to understand why you think bins is scum; because outside of asking "any particular reason why you decided to answer bulba and not me" which btw isn't a good question at all; especially so when you've admitted already that you didn't ask with any sort of alignment indicative answers in mind + a few shots at a naked vote; which was you looking for reasoning and not really calling her scum anyway.

All I'm seeing is this;

I'd go vote there but I also don't like Bins saying "trust me guys, I'm town, give your coke cokes to me!" instead of prioritizing critically reading the game.

Which is pretty scum now that I'm looking at it.

VOTE: ActionDan

[Ellibereth]

Unvote, Vote Dan

[Ellibereth]

Actually
Hold the fucking phone

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unvote, vote desperado

[Ellibereth]

getting that image to show up took way too fucking long

[Ginngie]

wow

a lurker lynch

scum hunt me harder daddy

[Ellibereth]

If I need to spell it out for any of you fuckos who joined after I left he's posting elsewhere/been online and not here.

And if you think lynching lurkers is bad you're part of the problem for why it's become optimal to do it as scum on this site.

Like I think it's super dumb to ignore relative activity (i.e. posting no where at all is different) but even that's probably better than whatever you shit you're using.

[Ginngie]

If it came from someone, that like, ya know actually did something this game, then I might have cared, but I don't, because you've done jack.

[Bulbazak]

I don't think we need to be attempting town blocs (which ar emostly a fake thing imo) on page 21 but knock yourselves out I guess

Town blocs tend to happen naturally. Whenever they're forced, it seems that things go south quickly.

I don't think that's what bins was doing, though. She was pushing you, a scumread, whether it's noise or not is irrelevant and probably my fault for wording it that way but you get what I mean.

I have no idea whether that was what Bins was doing or not. I'm more disturbed with your mindset concerning the interaction, and it's not one that I'd expect from town. That's what I was commenting on.

Think about it this way; how is bins gonna get a better read on actiondan by answering him about why she's scumreading you?

By seeing where he's coming from and where his mindset is. She can then counter-question him or open up a new line of inquiry to get a better read on Dan. These aren't mutually exclusive actions, and it is possible to get reads based on how another slot interacts with you.

My concern is that you are awfully quick to jump to Bins's defense. Do you have a town read on her?

Actually
Hold the fucking phone

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unvote, vote desperado

Desp's last post here: Thursday.
Desp's last post in a game (or in general): Saturday.

I can kinda see it, but he's not posting too much outside of this game, 4 times since here in total I think, so it may mean nothing. Let's wait and see if a pattern develops.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Ellibereth

[Desperado]

lmao @ elli

is "he's online and posting elsewhere but not here so he must be scum who is afraid to post in this game" something you've had success with beyond the newbie queue or...?

[Spiffeh]

Can we lynch Ellibereth?*

*said having not read the last 10ish pages

[Spiffeh]

Since I have a lot of homework to do today I will be catching up in this game as a procrastination tool

[Kagami]

VOTE: WhemeStar