17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

hitogoroshi · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:36 pm

In post 768, Desperado wrote:that's cute

why is kagami such a strong townread?

buddy trying to pick away at a random town read as the day of reckoning draws near is a really bad look

I will extend my question to Firebringer to you since Firebringer didn't answer it:

Firebringer, earnest question: do you believe you can get a major consensus on Cephrir in two-odd days or do you just not care whether or not you're influencing the lynch today

except I guess replace "Cephrir" with "not even anybody"

Ginngie · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:40 pm

In post 765, Bins wrote:
In post 631, Ginngie wrote:because when I do pay attention I loathe any interaction you make

and voting wheme was lynchbaity cop out vote and you haven't sunk your teeth into anything real.

difference between you and me.

I'm just starting to care, you've been caring the entire time yet haven't done anything worth townreading.

P-edit: lmfao damnit bulba
this post is still bs i just didnt have the effort to explain in on my tablet earlier

1) voting wheme was lynchbaity cop out? i dont view wheme as lynch bait and his votes up until that point were very jumpy. i dont see how wheme was a bad vote still (until wheme started being more fluid about his reads and i started to see him as town). even wheme didnt question my read on him.
2) sunk my teeth into anything real but caring the entire time?
a) where have i given any indication to how much i care (i do, but ive been called out for the opposite as well?)
b) sinking my teeth into anything real yet? i literally picked a fight with bulba?? im so confused again considering the vast number of people who i dont even have read on yet cause they arent here
3) the entire tone of this post seems as if ginngie is trying to look town to a point where its unnecessary. the "im just gonna sheep" thing was overdone and i really dont buy it

wheme is always really easy to vote, that's my experience and I've pushed him as scum before.

2a. What's kinda sad here, is that you confirmed that I was right about you caring

kinda goes to show that I actually took the time to analyze your slot instead of just plop a fake read there don'tcha think?

2b. Your fight with Bulba is because he voted you, in order for it to count that you did something, you gotta be the aggressor. Also I can't remember you having any reads on people besides the ones that were involved on your wagon; so enlighten me if I was wrong about your earlier game :3

3. Let me say it louder for the people in the back "

I've never had a game where another town player said my tone or posts sounded fake because I was 'trying to sound town'

Firebringer · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:53 pm

I believe anything is possible hito

Desperado · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:55 pm

In post 775, hitogoroshi wrote:buddy trying to pick away at a random town read as the day of reckoning draws near is a really bad look

now it's just a random townread?

Ginngie · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:56 pm

okay Fire, I need you to tunnel someone like they are mastina in these last two days

can you do that for me

Desperado · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:57 pm

In post 505, hitogoroshi wrote:anyway I was with you in that it seemed like andrius's rep out / Kagamis entrance was skeevy, but looking at kagami iso top to bottom now, looks town to me. think you're buying what I'm selling? feels like the hito, kagami, chess 3-bloc would probably get to set the lynch if we all got that sweet love

In post 641, hitogoroshi wrote:you are way overthinking this thing my dude. I am just noticing that me, chess, kagami will probably have a lot of political capital between us, I think we're all town, and we have some divergent reads. So, I would rather have the three of us agree on a lynch with a day or two before deadline, because we probably have the critical mass such that we'll get our way - as opposed to the current climate, which has a lot of low-impact scattering.

In post 642, hitogoroshi wrote:bulba is #1 town, chess is #2 town, kagami is #3 town - in a bit more of a brittle way because I'm over-indexing over a relatively small bit of posting, but for now quite happy with it. (why did I pick chess and kagami but not bulba for my 3-bloc? because bulbas playstyle is not as bloc-inclusive, even though it is part of what makes me feel so good about my town read.) feeling a bit less sure about fire-town and basically hoping that this whole fire, wheme, ginn mess just gets night power aimed at it because reading it is an absolute nightmare.

In post 767, hitogoroshi wrote:kagami town isn't something you talk about it's something you feel in your fuckin heart

In post 775, hitogoroshi wrote:buddy trying to pick away at a random town read as the day of reckoning draws near is a really bad look

...........

Firebringer · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:00 pm

In post 779, Ginngie wrote:okay Fire, I need you to tunnel someone like they are mastina in these last two days

can you do that for me

Yes

Ginngie · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:01 pm

great

okay now fly free my war machine

hitogoroshi · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:08 pm

In post 777, Firebringer wrote:I believe anything is possible hito

okay. if you believe there's a world where you convince folks to join you, clearly you are doing just an absolutely shitty job at it so far. what's your plan?

In post 778, Desperado wrote:
In post 775, hitogoroshi wrote:buddy trying to pick away at a random town read as the day of reckoning draws near is a really bad look
now it's just a random townread?

random as you "you are not connecting it to any theories about the gamestate and are just dicking around in the corner without taking a single stance on anything", not random as like, a value judgement about my strength of the read or something. if you wanna throw down on me or kagami then it wouldn't be random. but it sure looks like you're prioritizing picking fights just because you think you can win them over actually trying to identify scum and get them lynched.

Firebringer · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:09 pm

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Wickedestjr · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:14 pm

Today was very busy, I thought I would get a chance to post. Should be free after my interview tomorrow morning.

Firebringer · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:54 pm

Hey man, join me on this cool vote train

FakeGod · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:02 pm

VoteCount 1.11

Bins [5] - ActionDan, chesskid3, Ginngie, Bulbazak, Kagami
xRECKONERx [1] - Wickedestjr
Firebringer [1] - xyzzy
Ellibereth [1] - Spiffeh
ActionDan [1] - grapes
Desperado [2] - Ellibereth, hitogoroshi
chesskid3 [1] - xRECKONERx
Ginngie [3] - WhemeStar, Bins, Cephrir
xyzzy [1] - Firebringer

Not Voting [1]

- Desperado

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2017-09-28 08:00:00)

Bins · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:11 am

In post 776, Ginngie wrote:
In post 765, Bins wrote:
In post 631, Ginngie wrote:because when I do pay attention I loathe any interaction you make

and voting wheme was lynchbaity cop out vote and you haven't sunk your teeth into anything real.

difference between you and me.

I'm just starting to care, you've been caring the entire time yet haven't done anything worth townreading.

P-edit: lmfao damnit bulba
this post is still bs i just didnt have the effort to explain in on my tablet earlier

1) voting wheme was lynchbaity cop out? i dont view wheme as lynch bait and his votes up until that point were very jumpy. i dont see how wheme was a bad vote still (until wheme started being more fluid about his reads and i started to see him as town). even wheme didnt question my read on him.
2) sunk my teeth into anything real but caring the entire time?
a) where have i given any indication to how much i care (i do, but ive been called out for the opposite as well?)
b) sinking my teeth into anything real yet? i literally picked a fight with bulba?? im so confused again considering the vast number of people who i dont even have read on yet cause they arent here
3) the entire tone of this post seems as if ginngie is trying to look town to a point where its unnecessary. the "im just gonna sheep" thing was overdone and i really dont buy it
wheme is always really easy to vote, that's my experience and I've pushed him as scum before.

2a. What's kinda sad here, is that you confirmed that I was right about you caring
kinda goes to show that I actually took the time to analyze your slot instead of just plop a fake read there don'tcha think?

2b. Your fight with Bulba is because he voted you, in order for it to count that you did something, you gotta be the aggressor. Also I can't remember you having any reads on people besides the ones that were involved on your wagon; so enlighten me if I was wrong about your earlier game :3

3. Let me say it louder for the people in the back "
I've never had a game where another town player said my tone or posts sounded fake because I was 'trying to sound town'

i voted bulba first.

and now you just sound caught for the wrong reasons mad. how is there an issue that no one has called you out on this before?

Bins · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:13 am

oops i mean i voted him first with actual reason. but we had this argument before that his reasons were pretty weak and he even backtracked on them. i didnt like his vote on me and called him out. how is this not getting into the game?

Bins · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:14 am

In post 279, Bulbazak wrote: Because I didn't like your vote on Cephrir, and I was waiting to hear from Reck. I figured it was the best way to get out of RVS. Also, the "gimme the coke" line was atrocious.

I agree with Bins that these are bad reasons[/quote]

It's a vote on Bins at this stage in the game. Were you expecting more?[/quote]

see here

Bins · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:14 am

Ginngie · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:38 am

I dont think you get it what is wrong with your play.

Every single one of your scum reads and arguments

were with people that have voted you.

I went through your entire ISO just now, and literally every push has involved someone that has been voting you.

Spoiler: People that voted you

Spoiler: People you voted for

That is what I'm getting at.

You will fight and push your wagon off of you, but besides that, you have no inclination to put in work elsewhere.

Regarding finding town, you list off names as town but that is it, there are a sparse 3-6 posts were you say people are town but the only time you ever got close to giving a reason for a townread was calling xyzzy lynchbaity.

Also fun fact,

Spoiler:

With that, you just called xyzzy lynchbait kinda defended him and then after that you just offered him up to the dogs. He never posted in between the periods you wrote the next two quotes so what changed about xyzzy's play in order to offer it as a wagon?

Then you say I'm mad for some reason, yet I haven't been mad? My anger is easy to spot. I think you might confuse it with me being sassy?

Also what you're saying "why has no one called you out on it before"

Spoiler: The past 3 games I have played in to completion

Spoiler: Link to each game's OP respectively

So ain't that something special when I've never encountered a townie say my posting/tone is fake. Yet literally every game it's happened, it's always been a scumfuck :^)

I mean I love patterns

In post 765, Bins wrote:the entire tone of this post seems as if ginngie is trying to look town to a point where its unnecessary.

Kmd4390 wrote:It came off fake and then your meta was discussed so I took it as you trying to match your town meta intentionally.

This line of thought is strikingly similar and double whammy

rb wrote:For what it's worth I'm sorry you got caught for the wrong reasons.

In post 788, Bins wrote:and now you just sound caught for the wrong reasons

There is nothing town about your play and considering ever since the rb game, I have been able to correctly pinpoint Alisae as scum with it, and then snowball it with KMD, there is literally no fucking doubt in my mind that it's an accurate assessment to call it a scum move based on how people interact with me depending on their alignment.

Bulbazak · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:47 am

In post 778, Desperado wrote:
In post 775, hitogoroshi wrote:buddy trying to pick away at a random town read as the day of reckoning draws near is a really bad look
now it's just a random townread?

Desp, trying for a semantics argument does not help my read for you.

@Bins: That's not backtracking. That's admitting that an early vote has weak reasoning, simply due to it being an early vote. I also wasn't sure how well I could read you at that stage of the game, and I was admitting that.

chesskid3 · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:50 am

This wagon is getting more appealing because now it's telling abt Gingie too

Bulbazak · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:53 am

@Ginngie: Didn't I get in an argument with you d1 and call you fake as well? I don't think it was about posting style, but it might have been about something else. I really can't remember how our throwdown went.

Ginngie · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:58 am

In post 795, Bulbazak wrote:@Ginngie: Didn't I get in an argument with you d1 and call you fake as well? I don't think it was about posting style, but it might have been about something else. I really can't remember how our throwdown went.

nope

just went back and read the fight

Desperado · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:59 am

In post 783, hitogoroshi wrote:
In post 777, Firebringer wrote:I believe anything is possible hito
okay. if you believe there's a world where you convince folks to join you, clearly you are doing just an absolutely shitty job at it so far. what's your plan?

In post 778, Desperado wrote:
In post 775, hitogoroshi wrote:buddy trying to pick away at a random town read as the day of reckoning draws near is a really bad look
now it's just a random townread?
random as you "you are not connecting it to any theories about the gamestate and are just dicking around in the corner without taking a single stance on anything", not random as like, a value judgement about my strength of the read or something. if you wanna throw down on me or kagami then it wouldn't be random. but it sure looks like you're prioritizing picking fights just because you think you can win them over actually trying to identify scum and get them lynched.

you are putting a lot of effort into not explaining a read that you've placed a lot of emphasis on

Ginngie · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:00 am

In post 621, Desperado wrote:
In post 619, Ginngie wrote:nah but like, when I do play I catch the scums, so it's worth it :3
that's cool and everything

but what's stopping these 15 words from having been an explanation of your vote? lol

ALSO DESPY!

SEE LE BIG POST ABOVE

When I am here, shit's quality man.

Desperado · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:00 am

like I wouldn't be picking at a random town read of you hadn't been pushing it so strongly and I'm not sure why that appears to be lost on you?

and you and I both know that a vote on either one of you right now would be pointless and go nowhere so I'm going to continue doing what I'm doing