Newbie 1826 Basketball Game Over

[Deimos27]

Hi Zemaj!
Was that a serious vote on Assemble?

You might've noticed Spartan already claimed BP, so you don't need to claim "not BP" anymore. We're just looking to see if anyone will counterclaim, the point being that if no one does, we can confidently say that Spartan is confirmed town. This is because there is almost no chance scum would take the 1/6 gamble that we are in setup 1 and fakeclaim BP.
If you are a doctor or cop, proceed as outlined in Plotinus's 16. If you're anything else, you should keep it to yourself.

@Assemble, Clemency is interpreting your 6 differently than I did, and if he's right that could be a scumslip. So I'm interested to know what you meant by "sticking this game through to the end this time".

[Deimos27]

If you're anything else, you should keep it to yourself.

I should specify that this applies only to Zemaj, since he already claimed Not BP. If anyone who hasn't posted yet

is

in fact BP, of course you should counterclaim.

[Clemency]

Here's hoping Backup6 works if it ever becomes a thing.
RVS slowing down at 27 posts feels unnatural.

[Deimos27]

Xnadroj, Seanod and Peaches waiting room. Everyone else has already RVSed.

Maybe we can talk about possible fixes to Matrix6 post-game, but it's not

entirely

obvious this strategy is better for town than scum.
I think it is, but I've seen a lot of opposition.

[Plotinus]

The New Newbie Setup thread has details on what will be replacing matrix6.

[Plotinus]

I have two early town leans.

[Clemency]

Care to tell?

[Plotinus]

If I did, I would have. I get more out of it this way.

[Clemency]

I assumed so, but wanted to be sure.

[Plotinus]

Do you have any reads yet?

[Clemency]

I'm cautious of townreading Deimos from experience. Probably shouldn't make that a habit though.

[Deimos27]

The New Newbie Setup thread has details on what will be replacing matrix6.

This is exactly the sort of thing I've been looking for, thanks.

I'm cautious of townreading Deimos from experience. Probably shouldn't make that a habit though.

This doesn't really answer Plot's question, Clem. Are you reading me as null? It sounds like you

want

to read me as town, but aren't because I've fooled you before. You say you shouldn't make it a habit, so why do you do it anyway?

From my POV, there's not enough content from

anyone

to make any good reads.

[Clemency]

I'm saying I have no reads so far.

[zemaj]

Hi Zemaj!
Was that a serious vote on Assemble?

Semi-serious, though it could easily drop the 'semi', depending on response.

While you were not the only one questioning his opening post, you

were

the only one to provide much solid reasoning. Next post he votes you. If that isn't OMGUS (without the OMGUSer getting actually voted first) I'm not sure what qualifies.

You might've noticed Spartan already claimed BP, so you don't need to claim "not BP" anymore. We're just looking to see if anyone will counterclaim, the point being that if no one does, we can confidently say that Spartan is confirmed town. This is because there is almost no chance scum would take the 1/6 gamble that we are in setup 1 and fakeclaim BP.
If you are a doctor or cop, proceed as outlined in Plotinus's 16. If you're anything else, you should keep it to yourself

I misread Spartan's claim. I was wondering why people were denying counterclaim. That clarifies, thanks.

[Deimos27]

I'm saying I have no reads so far.

You're a confusing guy, Clemency. 35 seems weirdly out of place if you weren't leaning town on me, since you could've just said what you did now.

@Zemaj, I asked because I thought your vote might've been RVS. Why do you think Assemble's vote on me was OMGUS and not normal RVS? Why do you call my 21 "solid reasoning"? Do you believe that an SE not doing RVS in his first post is alignment indicative?

Spoiler: 21, 35

I want to know why an SE didn't RVS and just disappeared after making a single post that wasn't even game related.

I'm cautious of townreading Deimos from experience. Probably shouldn't make that a habit though.

[Plotinus]

I'm cautious of townreading Deimos from experience. Probably shouldn't make that a habit though.

i liked that he had metadived assemble already. When you misread him before, was it because of effort or tone or something else?

[Clemency]

Effort, tone, and bias.

[Deimos27]

The game Clemency is speaking of is almost certainly our first on the site, in which I played as scum against him. He voted wrong in LyLo and I quickhammered with my scumpartner Loopdan.
I already have the link to my records in my signature, but if anyone wants to take a look at my scum meta, this is my only one on the site.

Newbie 1751

It's from late 2016, so I'd be playing different regardless of alignment. Clemency's playstyle hasn't changed that much though; he's still making lots of posts, but with little to no actual content.
If you're town, I'd like to remind you to be proactive. It's extremely important for the game that town gets townread by other town. It's not coincidence you are scumread in almost every game, regardless of alignment.

[Deimos27]

If you're town, I'd like to remind you to be proactive. It's extremely important for the game that town gets townread by other town.

And this doesn't necessarily go just for Clemency. This is important advice for all newbie slots in this game. (Because I'm totally qualified to be giving advice when I've completed a grand total of one game. )

[Clemency]

Watch the sass, mister.

[Clemency]

Nothing encourages me to be proactive more than being called bad.

[Deimos27]

I am completely against insults in mafia, I'm very sorry if it came off that way!
I was trying to say that one reason you are scumread in your games could be that your playstyle is very passive. I was hoping you could try to change that this game so you'd be easier to read.

[Clemency]

I've been trying to change that. I don't need to be told I'm not good at the game.

[XnadrojX]

Hi I'm here to ruin your game with bad reads.

Not BP

[XnadrojX]

Oh crap have I already been found!? Who was that Night 0 Cop on me!?
VOTE: Deimos27

I cc pregame cop :^)