Mini 1939 - Organization XIII (Game Over)

Heartless · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:33 pm

Vote Count 3.5

Demyx [4] - Roxas, Marluxia, Xigbar, Axel
Zexion [2] - Demyx, Zexion
Xigbar [1] - Saix
Axel [1] - Xaldin
Saix [1] - Xemnas

Not Voting: Luxord

6 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2017-10-04 23:47:00).[/color]

II Xigbar · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:34 pm

Fmpov we lynch this or we lynch Axel. I think that marluxia line was basically a scumclaim imo.

I'd do Saix as a last resort but

X Luxord · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:36 pm

VOTE: demyx

I Xemnas · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:01 pm

We have 4 players in prod range. One of them has done nothing of significance this game day. 2 have done nearly nothing of significance this game day. I'd like to see that change before the day ends. Otherwise, I'd hammer now.

III Xaldin · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:22 pm

Demyx is town more likely than not imo.

III Xaldin · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:23 pm

Axel has better chance of flipping scum

I Xemnas · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:32 pm

In post 2601, I Xemnas wrote:Xaldin, same question to you. Do you think it makes sense to give the Zexion/Axel neighborhood investigation day to resolve?

I Xemnas · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:50 pm

In post 2630, III Xaldin wrote:Axel has better chance of flipping scum

See you in 2-plus days, I guess.

VII Saix · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:01 pm

In post 2628, I Xemnas wrote:We have 4 players in prod range. One of them has done nothing of significance this game day. 2 have done nearly nothing of significance this game day. I'd like to see that change before the day ends. Otherwise, I'd hammer now.

What have you done? Your vote on me = Delusions of adequacy.

III Xaldin · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:27 pm

In post 2631, I Xemnas wrote:
In post 2601, I Xemnas wrote:Xaldin, same question to you. Do you think it makes sense to give the Zexion/Axel neighborhood investigation day to resolve?

If the alternative is to Lynch demyx, no.

III Xaldin · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:27 pm

In post 2632, I Xemnas wrote:
In post 2630, III Xaldin wrote:Axel has better chance of flipping scum
See you in 2-plus days, I guess.

I decided to surprise you by answering now :p

I Xemnas · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:22 pm

In post 2634, III Xaldin wrote:
In post 2631, I Xemnas wrote:
In post 2601, I Xemnas wrote:Xaldin, same question to you. Do you think it makes sense to give the Zexion/Axel neighborhood investigation day to resolve?
If the alternative is to Lynch demyx, no.

Why is Demyx town?

XI Marluxia · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:10 am

In post 2628, I Xemnas wrote:We have 4 players in prod range. One of them has done nothing of significance this game day. 2 have done nearly nothing of significance this game day. I'd like to see that change before the day ends. Otherwise, I'd hammer now.

Think getting a claim from Demyx is more important than getting blood from the various turnips lying around. Don't really understand what you're expecting to get out of them, either - if they haven't contributed anything worth reading for the first two weeks of the game Day, what makes you think they will suddenly be useful in the last four days?

I Xemnas · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:23 am

In post 2562, I Xemnas wrote:It feels like this game coasts along, wasting most of the available time until we're 48 or so hours away from deadline. Then everyone wakes up and starts playing, with a few stragglers who don't do much even that late in the day phase.

This is not how you play a 2 week game day. We might as well be playing on a short-cycle mafia forum.

Yes this is role madness and we all want to use our cool night abilities. We still need to play the game day.

/rant

We're approaching the magical time when the game day deadline approaches 48 or so hours.

Speaking of blood from a turnip:

In post 2204, IX Demyx wrote:
In post 2203, II Xigbar wrote:
In post 2200, IX Demyx wrote:
In post 2183, Heartless wrote:
Demyx has been sniped with an arrowgun!

It is now Day 3. With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-04 23:47:00).
I demand my results.
claim
no

In post 2418, IX Demyx wrote:I agree with all votes on me.

And no I am not claiming.

Intent to hammer.

I Xemnas · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:43 am

In post 2633, VII Saix wrote:
In post 2628, I Xemnas wrote:We have 4 players in prod range. One of them has done nothing of significance this game day. 2 have done nearly nothing of significance this game day. I'd like to see that change before the day ends. Otherwise, I'd hammer now.
What have you done? Your vote on me = Delusions of adequacy.

Your opinion would possibly (unlikely, but possibly) be more indicting if you hadn't let your vote stagnate since the start of day 2, while the rest of town (and whatever scum decided to help) lynched scum yesterday. And today where your vote has also accomplished zip.

IX Demyx · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:02 am

I am not claiming.

My only regret is not getting rid of Roxas

IX Demyx · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:02 am

Like i really want roxas lynched.
So bad.

I Xemnas · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:41 am

In post 2637, XI Marluxia wrote:
In post 2628, I Xemnas wrote:We have 4 players in prod range. One of them has done nothing of significance this game day. 2 have done nearly nothing of significance this game day. I'd like to see that change before the day ends. Otherwise, I'd hammer now.
Think getting a claim from Demyx is more important than getting blood from the various turnips lying around. Don't really understand what you're expecting to get out of them, either - if they haven't contributed anything worth reading for the first two weeks of the game Day, what makes you think they will suddenly be useful in the last four days?

About now would be a good time for your thoughts on how this is working out.

XI Marluxia · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:44 am

There seems to be no purpose to what you just said. I wanted to give him the opportunity to claim - nothing lost if he refuses but I do believe it's good and proper play to give someone a chance before hammering them.

XI Marluxia · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:44 am

Can we hammer him now, or would you like to give the lurkers a chance to prod dodge again?

IX Demyx · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:02 am

Dodge of the prods

XIII Roxas · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:55 am

In post 2423, VI Zexion wrote:HEAL: Xemnas HEAL: Xemnas HEAL: Xemnas
HEAL: Roxas HEAL: Roxas HEAL: Roxas
HEAL: Xigbar HEAL: Xigbar HEAL: Xigbar
HEAL: Xaldin
HEAL: Marluxia
HEAL: Luxord HURT: Luxord
HEAL: Saïx HURT: Saïx
HURT: Axel
HURT: Demyx HURT: Demyx HURT: Demyx

Switch Xaldin and Axel, promote Luxord to Marluxia, then switch Saix with Xaldin, and this is pretty much where I'd be.

XIII Roxas · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:59 am

In post 2428, II Xigbar wrote:I think Demyx/Axel is more likely than Demyx/Saix but uhh

I think Demyx/Xaldin is more likely than Demyx/Axel.

Axel just feels town to me.
I don't really have much of a reason for why. But the idea of him being scum just feels wrong. Admittedly, *I* could be the one wrong here. But if the scumteam's not Demyx-Saix, my first thought would be Demyx-Xaldin, not Demyx-Axel.

XIII Roxas · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:08 am

In post 2435, VI Zexion wrote:
In post 2424, VI Zexion wrote:Saïx [5] - Lexaeus,
Vexen, Axel, Demyx
, Zexion

While the potential for an all-scum-bloc voting is there, it is incredibly unlikely and this is in fact some reasonably strong evidence suggesting Axel wouldn't be scum. (Well, at least not with Demyx. But probably not scum anyway.)

I don't know who Vexen is but someone who claims to know who Vexen is can answer this: be honest, is Vexen a player who could bus, if he deemed it advantageous to do so? Because I got the very distinct impression the answer is yes, he would. The type of "logical, calculated player who makes long-term plans involving strategic manipulation of circumstances". This very trait is what makes an all-scum-bloc possible, sure, but it is that very same trait which also enables it to be bussing.

In the votecount that came from, the alternative wagons were Xigbar (listed twice on the votecount so three votes total) and Demyx (two votes total). Scum had no reason to put all their eggs in one basket. Vexen was under no danger. Xigbar's town but even if he weren't then him being him three votes is nothing so no real danger there. Luxord is town but even if he weren't then he was under no danger.

Scum simply have no reason to pile onto Saix like that.

In contrast, if we assume two scum on Saix and one scum on Xigbar, this makes a lot more sense. The votes from Demyx and Vexen are perfectly placed for towncred. Which is why I'd heavily favor Saix as scum over Axel.

XIII Roxas · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:13 am

In post 2460, X Luxord wrote:
In post 2458, IX Demyx wrote:Xigbar, Luxord, Saix, and probably Roxas as much as I hate it are probably town. scum are in Xaldin, Marlexia, and Zexion
What about Axel?

Legit would laugh if a scum-Demyx did in fact forget his scumbuddy, but I'd be more inclined to think that if the exclusion of Axel was intentional it'd be to frame that as a mislynch.