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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:17 pm

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Bro just look at Misere's catch up post and tell me it comes from a villager. It dosen't
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:17 pm

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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:18 pm

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In post 628, Virtuoso wrote:
VC 1.12




Lynching

skitter30
(4): Fykus, MariaR, Thor665, Toranaga
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In post 649, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Skitter
BBT puts skitter on L-2. no reasoning, just wants a lynch to go through.
In post 651, WhyMafia wrote:I oppose a skitter lynch
In post 652, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Shall we lynch you instead?
I think it's townie, especially when BBT is voting scum here and then casually offering WM to get lynched instead.
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:18 pm

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Man come on...the most obvious and shallow thoughts, reads that are defined and then supported instead of naturall created, and fawning over my every move with "oh WOW, Mulch is town!!!!" "This is the greatest!!!!"


Seriously? How do people think this is town
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:20 pm

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In post 2228, Mulch wrote:

Man come on...the most obvious and shallow thoughts, reads that are defined and then supported instead of naturall created, and fawning over my every move with "oh WOW, Mulch is town!!!!" "This is the greatest!!!!"


Seriously? How do people think this is town
I actually agree this is a little scummy yeah. was skimming it just now...
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:20 pm

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I fucking hate that mod question too.
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:22 pm

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I'm down with a Misere lynch but I have to say I want to see the replacement do stuff first.
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:24 pm

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send me links I'll literally read whole games to determine wtf you are here
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:25 pm

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In post 2220, Mulch wrote:
In post 2210, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2205, Mulch wrote:Who has ever seen a scum fruit vendor...
Even if fruit vendor is negative utility for scum as you say, it could have been included for balancing purposes. That's why nu roles are a thing. I think you must know that.

On the basis of role alone you are neutral. It's going to come down to vca associations tone etc.
If I were a scum fruit vendor and it was a negative role I woulden't have used it...
The other thing is that with three scum, town would be way OP if all the claimed roles are true scum had a goon and a nu fruit vendor. I know you just said town tends to be OP on MS but that seems too much. On reflection therefore, i think your role is at least leaning town after all.
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:27 pm

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scum fruit vendor + scum roleblocker + goon

would work vs loyal cop, odd tracker even gunsmith miller
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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:27 pm

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if I read into it, I lean scum -hard-. I don't really want to do that.
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:30 pm

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In post 2233, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2220, Mulch wrote:
In post 2210, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2205, Mulch wrote:Who has ever seen a scum fruit vendor...
Even if fruit vendor is negative utility for scum as you say, it could have been included for balancing purposes. That's why nu roles are a thing. I think you must know that.

On the basis of role alone you are neutral. It's going to come down to vca associations tone etc.
If I were a scum fruit vendor and it was a negative role I woulden't have used it...
The other thing is that with three scum, town would be way OP if all the claimed roles are true, and scum has a goon and a nu fruit vendor. I know you just said town tends to be OP on MS but that seems too much. On reflection therefore, i think your role is at least leaning town after all.
Edwop punctuation added for clarity.

@Toranaga: i can't remember, has anyone reported being blocked?
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:33 pm

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In post 2236, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2233, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2220, Mulch wrote:
In post 2210, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2205, Mulch wrote:Who has ever seen a scum fruit vendor...
Even if fruit vendor is negative utility for scum as you say, it could have been included for balancing purposes. That's why nu roles are a thing. I think you must know that.

On the basis of role alone you are neutral. It's going to come down to vca associations tone etc.
If I were a scum fruit vendor and it was a negative role I woulden't have used it...
The other thing is that with three scum, town would be way OP if all the claimed roles are true, and scum has a goon and a nu fruit vendor. I know you just said town tends to be OP on MS but that seems too much. On reflection therefore, i think your role is at least leaning town after all.
Edwop punctuation added for clarity.

@Toranaga: i can't remember, has anyone reported being blocked?
no. but with 3 investigative roles I think a scum RBer makes sense. also to balance out the benefits of hardclaiming etc.

main point is: giving town 5 claimable roles is too much for a 13er.
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:35 pm

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In post 2234, Toranaga wrote:scum fruit vendor + scum roleblocker + goon

would work vs loyal cop, odd tracker even gunsmith miller
And why would Mulch send fruit as scum if everyone is supposed to read it as scummy now, as you say?

And if this is your first game here, why do you suppose the relevant meta on that is the same as wherever else you play?
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:36 pm

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@Toranaga: i agree 5 claimed roles is too many. Tell me again why you think you are confirmed as tracker?
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:37 pm

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No it fucking isn't. Let me give you some setups
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:39 pm

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"Loyal Cop
Ascetic Townie
Weak Doctor
Macho Neapolitan
VT x6

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Mafia:
Roleblocker
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:39 pm

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In post 2238, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2234, Toranaga wrote:scum fruit vendor + scum roleblocker + goon

would work vs loyal cop, odd tracker even gunsmith miller
And why would Mulch send fruit as scum if everyone is supposed to read it as scummy now, as you say?

And if this is your first game here, why do you suppose the relevant meta on that is the same as wherever else you play?
the meta -HERE-. I never heard of fruit vendor before this game. I have then read many many posts speaking about it once I realised mulch could be exactly that. there are neutral and scum fruit vendors, there's a loud scum fruit vendor in one of alisae's games, and many comments everywhere of people never townreading someone just for being fruit vendor.

mulch thought it'd clear him. just read his posts. he thought that was a role that was gonna be read villagery. maybe actually as town he never considered it was NAI. maybe as scum, he thought it was way better than not send.
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:40 pm

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If I'm scum I don't fucking use a negative utility role that fucks me in endgame jesus christ I'm so much better
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:40 pm

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In post 2239, Chip Butty wrote:@Toranaga: i agree 5 claimed roles is too many. Tell me again why you think you are confirmed as tracker?
I knew fykus didn't visit anyone n1 :) I may be a scum tracker from where you stand, but I'm confirmed tracker.
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:41 pm

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SergTacos, survived, Vanilla Townie.
Vecna, survived, Vanilla Townie.
Gamma Emerald, survived, Town Odd-Night Loyal Cop
Fykus, survived, Vanilla Townie.
Tchill13, survived, Town Jailkeeper
Klazam, survived, Town Even-Night Gunsmith
Titus, survived, Vanilla Townie.


Dead:

Mulch, lynched Day 1, Vanilla Townie.
Keyser Söze, killed Night 1, Vanilla Townie.
Creative, lynched Day 2,Mafia Vanilla Cop.
DeasVail, killed Night 2, Town Symbiotic.
ThinkBig, lynched Day 3, Mafia Encryptor.
Maestro, lynched Day 4, Mafia 1-shot Doctor.
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:41 pm

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mulch, if you can, find me a 13er with 5 claimable villager roles
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:44 pm

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Most have 4

Here is one with 5:

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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:45 pm

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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:47 pm

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look at the mafia loud fruit vendor there :P

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