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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:10 am

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Luca is probably my best town read atm, but it's only based off the Luca v. Elli
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:21 am

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Human Sequencer wrote:vax, tywin, we don't really have the time to sit around doing nothing
But I do think it is interesting that you are throwing shade when we both have been posting more recently than you.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:48 am

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In post 43, Vaxkiller wrote:
There is literally nothing to be analyzed so deeply, this conversation between you two seems contrived.
I disagree that there was nothing to analyze.
He thought that a "reactive" entrance was alignment-indicative. I did not. We attempted to rectify this.

Posts 46 and 47 are very important as they show a lack of awareness of the settup he's playing. Note to self or anyone else who would want to bother to go through his other games to check if Vax has demonstrated this lack of awareness before and/or if he's capable of faking such a lack of awareness as scum. As a bonus we should check if there were any "deep discussions" early on in his games to verify his previous comment. I will try to do this when I have more time.
In post 48, Human Sequencer wrote:vax, tywin, we don't really have the time to sit around doing nothing

vax, do you expect me to believe your backpedal on the luca slot? you claimed "one of them are scum, maybe both". both was a "maybe". so surely there must be something that lead you to scumread them independently, not just 'it looks contrived?

tywin, what do you think about Elli disappearing after being put under pressure?

Luca, i can reconcile that there is a difference there when both statements are taken strictly literally. I also think this conversation is not helping us.
The first line here is an absolutely ridiculous call out and could possibly be contrived . In what way were they sitting around and doing nothing before your post?

The third line is just as ridiculous. My last post was at 1:47 a.m EST. Your question was posted at 4:50 p.m. Your profile says your 20. Are you not aware people have this thing called work.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:39 pm

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In post 51, TywinL wrote:
Human Sequencer wrote:vax, tywin, we don't really have the time to sit around doing nothing
But I do think it is interesting that you are throwing shade when we both have been posting more recently than you.
doing more=/= posting more
when I made that comment you'd posted a townread on Luca without much content and a one line "this doesn't sit well with me" on vax
the day is short and we have 5 slots. we had good content and interactions between Luca/Elli and Luca/hs, but not much from vax and tywin. I'm just trying to create that.

"Throwing shade" is a massive reach here, I'm assuming you're both town and asking that you both help me scumhunt. I see how you could interpret it a more malicious way, but it's just not true.

RE: Elli 52
i wasn't happy with vax in particular posting one surface level analysis and then back-pedalling from it. tywin had also posted little. I'm happy that tywin has been digging into my posts more, still waiting on vax. not sure what you're getting at there

you are extremely defensive about my comment on you being defensive, which is fair enough I guess. please note i that I didn't actually call you out on it or call you scummy for it in any way. i simply wanted to hear what tywin thought of it, and I'm happy with his response on it.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:41 pm

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you are extremely defensive on my comment of you disappearing*
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:57 pm

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flips aren't going to help us at all here because scum are treating everybody else exactly the same so town doesn't get better informed with more flips

This makes our early lynches more important than usual AND we don't have many of them AND the day is short, so forgive me for trying to inject energy into the game because I really think we need it

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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:06 pm

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Well, I thought it was complete bs that you signaled Vax and I out but I understand why you want to get the ball rolling.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:06 pm

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Also, why should we do an early lynch? We only get one shot at this lynch because we could lose during Night 1 if we mislynch.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:18 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 43, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 39, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 38, Vaxkiller wrote:I think one of luca/elib are scum. Maybe both. I've never seen such deep conversations on page 2!
That's some pretty strange logic.

Why would having a 'deep conversation' mean either one or both of us are scum?
There is literally nothing to be analyzed so deeply, this conversation between you two seems contrived.
In post 45, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 43, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 39, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 38, Vaxkiller wrote:I think one of luca/elib are scum. Maybe both. I've never seen such deep conversations on page 2!
That's some pretty strange logic.

Why would having a 'deep conversation' mean either one or both of us are scum?
There is literally nothing to be analyzed so deeply, this conversation between you two seems contrived.
It's called pulling the game out of RVS - what is the scum motivation behind that exactly?

And '
contrived
'? That implies we're a scumteam, which is impossible in this set-up.
In post 47, Vaxkiller wrote:Let me rethink this then.


Are we buying this 'townslip' here by Vax?

It's an important question because if it's genuine, he is Town, if it's fake then he's almost certainly scum.

I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:22 pm

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As I talked about earlier, I think deciding that is almost completely based on meta. Do you have play experience with him?
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:24 pm

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Whoops
In post 59, Ellibereth wrote:As I talked about earlier, I think deciding that is almost completely based on meta. Do you have play experience with him?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:32 pm

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I'm not buying the "townslip". It's too fake in a setup like this.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:34 pm

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@ Eli
- No. But earlier he said....
In post 17, Vaxkiller wrote:Becuase u were first voted, read the rules dude!~
Which implies he must have read the rules himself. So I ask, how is it possible for one to read the rules and yet miss the colourful wording below:
In post 2, BTD6_maker wrote:This setup is Nano-Multiball, a setup of my own devising.

There are 3
Vanilla Townies
, 1
Mafia Goon
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Werewolf Goon
.

Night 1 only occurs if Town was lynched on Day 1. (Nights 2 and beyond do not occur).

Scum NKs (on Night 1 if possible) are compulsive. If no kill is submitted, a random target is chosen. Scum may not self-target.

If a scum is killed during Night 1, their own kill action will not work unless it is a cross-kill. (For example, if Mafia A kills Werewolf B and Werewolf B kills Townie C, B would die and C would survive). If scum cross-kill, Town wins.

If both scum are alive at the start of Day 2, the scum both draw (counted as half a win each) and Town loses. This occurs if and only if Town is lynched on Day 1 and both scum kill Town on Night 1 (even if they kill the same Townie).


Spoiler: Sample PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome, BTD6_maker. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm your role by replying with your role name.


Mafia GoonWelcome, BTD6_maker. You are a
Mafia Goon
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If a Townie is lynched on Day 1, you must compulsively kill one other player. If you do not submit a kill, I will randomly choose your target.

You win when both the Town and the Werewolf have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

You draw with the Werewolf if both of you are alive at the end of Night 1.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm your role by replying with your role name.


Werewolf GoonWelcome, BTD6_maker. You are a
Werewolf Goon
.

If a Townie is lynched on Day 1, you must compulsively kill one other player. If you do not submit a kill, I will randomly choose your target.

You win when both the Town and the Mafia have been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

You draw with the Mafia if both of you are alive at the end of Night 1.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm your role by replying with your role name.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:35 pm

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That's an excellent catch.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:09 pm

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Yeah except my "read the rules post" was wrong and BTD6 explained it differently.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:11 pm

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In post 64, Vaxkiller wrote:Yeah except my "read the rules post" was wrong and BTD6 explained it differently.
Did you or did you not read the rules prior to making that comment?
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:12 pm

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I glanced through them and was being an ass
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:12 pm

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I was like, "I know this shit" I dont need to read through everything.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:13 pm

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So what did you think the set-up was, exactly?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:13 pm

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3 town 2 scum
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:14 pm

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2 scum together
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:16 pm

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In post 69, Vaxkiller wrote:3 town 2 scum
This is now ringing alarm bells for me, considering you made this vote so casually:
In post 10, Vaxkiller wrote:VOTE: Tywin

Lurker scum
If you're being genuine in what you say, why did you think it was a good idea to vote someone so casually in MYLO? If you and Tywin were Town, it would be game over very soon.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:17 pm

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In post 70, Vaxkiller wrote:2 scum together
"2 scum" *nano-multiball*
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:18 pm

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In post 9, Luca Blight wrote:If you're town then be careful with your vote - it only takes three to lynch.
Because I read this and didnt think about it.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:19 pm

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Yeah, well my bad!
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