Micro 744 - Nano-Multiball (Game Over)

[Human Sequencer]

Don't really like 72 and 63
Feels like dog piling without any real effort

[Luca Blight]

Alright, I'll unvote just so we can all consider this reasonably before committing.

UNVOTE:

Still struggling to believe Vax could be Town after that, though.

[Elliberetta]

HS's posts over the last page have been horrible. It's like he's trying to point out every innocuous thing to the point of either pointing out the painfully obvious, making things up or to not making any sense at all.

I mean our lynches we make in the early phase of the game are more important, notnthat we should lynch earlier in the day

Both this and the previous reference to "eary lynches" are just complete wastes of spacesbecause the game has a maximum of 2 days. Given that of course they're more fucking important.

I don't think it's so black and white, both are feasible

It IS black and white in the sense that he either honestly fucked up, in which case he's town. Or he's faking it in which he's scum. Actually the entire sentence just doesn't make sense given the post he was responding to.

If we're looking inbetween Elli and Luca I agree that it's a difficult choice
Both have done things that are scummy on the face but have plausible town motivations

I would argue that neither of us have done anything "scummy". (Whats your definition of that word anyway?). What did we do. Go.

Ignore the people pushing you, anybody who hammers at this point is being dumb

What? Why should he ignore us. Why would you even say either part of this statement. if he feels the pressure of being possibly hammered, his reactions are more likely to give us more information on his alignment.

I think vax is town, I need to do a meta dive to be sure
Will do probably tomorrow
Definitely not lynching yet, though

So this implies you haven't looked at his meta yet. Which means you think he's town from just his actions in this thread? Where the hell are you getting that from.

Luca, Elli and Tywin were all very okay with the lynch very early
Luca's was the best justified but also the most aggressive

Excuse me? I haven't even mentioned my opinion on his alignment yet, much less that I want him lynched. Tywin had the courtesy to wait for you. Is that your definiton of "very okay".
Why is Luca the "best justified" when all three of us would be presumably scum reading him from the same reason. Why does it give one more justification just because they're the one who discovered it first. And why does his aggressiveness lessen his justification.

Don't really like 72 and 63
Feels like dog piling without any real effort

dog piling?
me giving kudos to Lucas for finding the first important thing in the game so far is dog piling? His connecting Vax's "slip" to him pointing out the rules earlier is super crucial to the entirety of what happened and I missed it before he pointed out.

So what would have constituted effort for you? To do what you did and just be like oh I think he's town but I'll look at his meta later? Because that's exactly what I fucking did without the thinking he's town part.

tdlr: HS's posts are shitty. Let's find out if that's because he's scum.

[Elliberetta]

Vax, is this what you're claiming happened?

1) You thought the settup was a 2 man scumteam vs. 3 town.
2) It slipped your mind that this means scum can win if they're both online after a town on town vote.

I accept that your example shows your note a careful reader. Do you have any other cases of similar things happening that you can remember?

I'm a gambler in everything but real life. I thought "2 outta 5" i like those odds.

What were you talking about here? That because you're a "gambler" you decided to choose two people for no reason in particular and say one of them is likely scum?

[Vaxkiller]

Yup.

I didn't think through what a 2 person scum team would mean.

Also I didn't choose 2 people, I just saw I had a 20% chance of hitting scum and went for it. Does everyone not dream of hitting the correct person in RVS?

[Luca Blight]

20%? 2 out of 5?

You're talking from the perspective of being scum, it would seem, because if you were Town then in would be a 50% chance of 'hitting scum', for you know yourself to be town, and therefore 2 of the remaining four must be scum.

[Vaxkiller]

Oh yeah, it would be 2 out of 4

[Luca Blight]

I believe this is another scumslip from Vax - before the game I, and most probably the other two Townies, came at it from the mindset '

2 of the other 4 are scum, 50% chance

', but clearly Vax went into the game from an altogether different perspective.

[Vaxkiller]

I like how your argument is that I'm terrible so I'm scum. Like I can't be terrible and town?

[Luca Blight]

I like how your argument is that I'm terrible so I'm scum. Like I can't be terrible and town?

My argument is your mindset isn't that of Town.

[Vaxkiller]

Man this is going to be a losing battle getting people to vote with me. For the record, Luca's posting seems pretty town to me.

[Elliberetta]

20% doesn't make sense either way since if he's scum that's calculating correctly that number would be 25% right?
Regardless, I can see the line where he's scum that mentally think he's looking for one other scum and that there are 5 players in the game so 1/5.

Vax, how did you reach the 20% number?

Lucas what do you think of HS?

[Vaxkiller]

In B4 u say I WOULD know that you are town because I am not.

[Vaxkiller]

20% doesn't make sense either way since if he's scum that's calculating correctly that number would be 25% right?
Regardless, I can see the line where he's scum that mentally think he's looking for one other scum and that there are 5 players in the game so 1/5.

Vax, how did you reach the 20% number?

Lucas what do you think of HS?

I guess it would be 40% by my shitty math. But 50% in reality.

[Elliberetta]

I understand that you have shitty math.
How did your shitty math get 20.
What was the computation error.

[Vaxkiller]

SO in this situation this is what we have:

Wolf and scum believes I am the other wolf/scum: I would think they would likely WANT to kill me, so there is no chance of cross killing.
Wolf and scum believes I am town, there going to want to save me for tomorrow miss-lynch.

There is a possibility the wolf/scum thinks I'm the other wolf/scum and wants to misslynch me tomorrow, but that sounds dangerous.

Maybe 1 believes 1 thing and the other believes the other.

[Luca Blight]

20% doesn't make sense either way since if he's scum that's calculating correctly that number would be 25% right?
Regardless, I can see the line where he's scum that mentally think he's looking for one other scum and that there are 5 players in the game so 1/5.

Vax, how did you reach the 20% number?

Lucas what do you think of HS?

It makes sense if he's scum simply because he's not looking at it from a Townie perspective.

Regarding HS, I really don't like him at all this game and he is my second biggest scumread. I'm not sure if he's scum or just has an awkward playstyle, however.

HS' attitude towards Vax confuses me though as I'd have thought scum would be more predatory in such a situation.

The question is though, would scum want to lynch scum or townie today? Probably a Townie I would imagine, because if scum is lynched there is no night phase.

[Vaxkiller]

I understand that you have shitty math.
How did your shitty math get 20.
What was the computation error.

User error.

It wasn't like I used a calculator, I didn't bother to think.

Reflecting on it, I can only guess where my error was because the answer is so obvious now. How does it help to understand where 20% came from?

[Human Sequencer]

lmfao post 102 is such a fuckin dumpsterfire

could you try that again elli but with 310 times more thought and effort and 100% less needless disrespect and hatred

[Luca Blight]

Vax, who do you think is scum?

[Human Sequencer]

i really want luca to be town because if he isn't i don't think we can win this game

tywin might pull through i guess

[Vaxkiller]

I dont know about you, but scum/wolf leaving other scum/wolf alive seems dangerous. Someone else do the math since we know I suck at it, but isnt the equal chances of getting 1/2 win - win - lose?

1/2 win to me is still a loss.

[Vaxkiller]

Right now I'm leaning Human sequencer

HS
Lycan
Elib

Luca

I have luca separated because they appear town to me.

HS's posts are mostly shading without


I'm at work and things are getting a little busy I'll explain here when I get a chance a little later.

[TywinL]

Human Sequencer, WTF? I said we should all wait to hear your thoughts. Where did I say we should do a quick lynch?

[TywinL]

I'm thinking that Vax and HS are scum by POE. Luca and Elli are pretty town to me.