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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:34 am

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In post 2543, Porkens wrote:Then, he pushed hard on Maria over Skitter. Maria was much more townie on my readslist than either Mulch or Skitter at this point.
Valid point. Skitter fooled me. I wish I could say something to defend this, but by the nature of mafia this is always going to look bad for me. However, I would like to know how you thought MariaR was towny, or more specifically why you think my scumread on MariaR was disingenuine (operating under the assumption that you believe there is a decent chance I am scum that bullshitted a read on Maria to save my partner).
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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:35 am

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One last comment out of observation:
I get the mulch scum reads. But calling him scum over handling Havo isn't right. I agree with what happened to Havo. Havo was gonna get the NK the minute he hardcore softed.
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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:35 am

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In post 2549, Porkens wrote:
In post 2546, Mulch wrote:
In post 2543, Porkens wrote:However, as the day went on, his stance on Havo was bizarre. He helped force her to hardclaim, unvoted, and then berated her for her “terrible claim” and even went back to calling her scummy.
I've explained this time and time again across the course of this game. I would like you to try reading this, and if you still have any doubts/concerns to how I was thinking, let me know.
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:36 am

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Sorry, screwed up my quote.
In post 2549, Porkens wrote:
In post 2546, Mulch wrote:
In post 2543, Porkens wrote:However, as the day went on, his stance on Havo was bizarre. He helped force her to hardclaim, unvoted, and then berated her for her “terrible claim” and even went back to calling her scummy.
I've explained this time and time again across the course of this game. I would like you to try reading this, and if you still have any doubts/concerns to how I was thinking, let me know.
Mulch, I'm as interested in your explanation as the facts of what you said and what you did. If you'd like to quote something, I will read it, but I'm not going to go digging at your request.

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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 2543, Porkens wrote:So chip, who he isn’t scumreading, “didn’t hard bus”. Implying knowledge of chip’s alignment.
This is a perspective push, ie something that does not exist. (More often than not, it's town versus town or scum versus town manipulation of these "slips").

I obviously meant that if Chip was scum, he didn't hard bus. Just take it as that
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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:39 am

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How do you read Chip now, Mulch?
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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:40 am

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In post 2543, Porkens wrote:Skitters talked TO mulch about mulch but never gave a read on him at all.
Note that Skitter is very capable of anti-spew (or trying to associate themselves with people/distance). They actually have done it in almost every single one of their scumgames, with WhyMafia's recent mini normal the most recent one. I would advise not looking into Skitter interactions
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:40 am

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In post 2555, Porkens wrote:How do you read Chip now, Mulch?
Relatively towny
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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:42 am

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In post 2533, Mulch wrote:01. Toranaga- Not lynching today
03. WhyMafia- Not lynching today
05. Porky- Most likely not lynching today, although I want their reasons for scumreading me
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07. Thor665- Not lynching today
09. Chip Butty- Most likely not lynching today
10. humaneatingmonkey- Most likely not lynching today
11. havingfitz Misère----> Good lynch target
12. Sergtacos (replaces Creative)----> Good lynch target
13. Mulch--- Not lynching today, especially as if scum get lynched I become an inno child and scum are forced to nightkill me at some point.
Sorry, I was being lazy.

I could lynch Misere's replacement if we aren't doing Chip. Taco isn't BAD but I don't think he's a priority today.
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:42 am

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Ok, I like your points Porkens. I can follow all of them. You've improved the stock of your slot
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:45 am

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In post 2558, Porkens wrote:
In post 2533, Mulch wrote:01. Toranaga- Not lynching today
03. WhyMafia- Not lynching today
05. Porky- Most likely not lynching today, although I want their reasons for scumreading me
@Porky

07. Thor665- Not lynching today
09. Chip Butty- Most likely not lynching today
10. humaneatingmonkey- Most likely not lynching today
11. havingfitz Misère----> Good lynch target
12. Sergtacos (replaces Creative)----> Good lynch target
13. Mulch--- Not lynching today, especially as if scum get lynched I become an inno child and scum are forced to nightkill me at some point.
Sorry, I was being lazy.

I could lynch Misere's replacement if we aren't doing Chip. Taco isn't BAD but I don't think he's a priority today.

Ok. Let's do it

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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:46 am

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By the way I think it goes without saying that if this flips scum I'm all but mechanically cleared and then on top of that I WILL be mechanically cleared by my fruit lmfao
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:53 am

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Tora, what are your current reads on Taco and Chip?
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:54 pm

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In post 2561, Mulch wrote:By the way I think it goes without saying that if this flips scum I'm all but mechanically cleared and then on top of that I WILL be mechanically cleared by my fruit lmfao
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:13 pm

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I would like to still note that even though everyone says they townread Serg, only havingfitz, the new guy, was willing to both toss up reasoning, and maybe had that reasoning survive scrutiny (though jury is still softly out on that I feel)
and yet...infinite town reads and no votes.
Doesn't feel legit.
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:41 pm

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I do not townread taco.
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:44 pm

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I am glad to hear that - what are the odds you'd prefer to lynch Taco today over Chip whom I generally town read and who also had Skitter kind of hard hunting him a lot of Day 1 and Day 2, I find him a very unlikely partner.
I think Serg is a very reasonable partner option.
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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:51 pm

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I have trouble reading into Taco's stoner schtick so I'm hoping to sort him on vca as the game wears on.
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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:56 pm

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In post 2522, Thor665 wrote:Whether or not it would have faded has limited change to the odds of scum being on it though.
We know skitter was on that wagon at L-1. Agree there could be another. Probably not both.

I mentioned it because it is worth bearing in mind that some of those on the wagon weren't expecting such an early lynch but intent and a claim.
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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:57 pm

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Or you could look at how I already assessed him via VCA and offer your thoughts on that?

Pedit - it's an L-1 wagon, it's the same info as any L-1 wagon, adding processing complications due to timing of the wagon is, I fell, a meaningless exercise in complication.
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:04 pm

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In post 2566, Thor665 wrote:I am glad to hear that - what are the odds you'd prefer to lynch Taco today over Chip whom I generally town read and who also had Skitter kind of hard hunting him a lot of Day 1 and Day 2, I find him a very unlikely partner.
I think Serg is a very reasonable partner option.
I'd lynch anyone who is red or orange in my list :)
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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:09 pm

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In post 2569, Thor665 wrote:Or you could look at how I already assessed him via VCA and offer your thoughts on that?

Pedit - it's an L-1 wagon, it's the same info as any L-1 wagon, adding processing complications due to timing of the wagon is, I fell, a meaningless exercise in complication.
How is it ending up in a lynch "meaningless complications" lmao
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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:30 pm

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In post 2571, Mulch wrote:
In post 2569, Thor665 wrote:Or you could look at how I already assessed him via VCA and offer your thoughts on that?

Pedit - it's an L-1 wagon, it's the same info as any L-1 wagon, adding processing complications due to timing of the wagon is, I fell, a meaningless exercise in complication.
How is it ending up in a lynch "meaningless complications" lmao
I think you don't understand what I'm saying or I don't understand what you're saying.
I'm not talking about lynching meaningless complications in any way, shape, or form in my comment.
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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:31 pm

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In post 2473, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 2452, Chip Butty wrote:MOD, what would a miller return to a gunsmith inv in this game?
@Aristophanes: Sorry, missed your request to post this...
A miller would, to the best of my knowledge, return a "does not have a gun" response on a gunsmith investigation.
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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:31 pm

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Also...
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