17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

[Ginngie]

We can do that after I get my catchup hammers to your double hammering selfish self.

I mean, with hito burning the coke from n1, the cycle already started, so yee

[chesskid3]

But I also like the idea of me just..having some. To remove the hito is playing us card from the 'deck of ways to lose to scum from this won position'

[Ginngie]

To remove the hito is playing us card

This is something that's got me fucked up because we can't prove that he's burning it.

[Ellibereth]

okay you're both town we get it, make out already.
Let's move onto the pool of people actually relevant.

I don't think wick would have put two (all?) buddies in his scumlist so that's + pointed for xyzzy.
minus points is CAN YOU FUCKING POST MORE SO I CAN READ YOU THANKS <3

[chesskid3]

Yes so the best way to do it is clearly let me get some hammers and he stays away from my coke

if we're still at this come day 5 we can re-evaluate but hot damn are we way ahead of scum right now.

[chesskid3]

pedit dont be rude elli u jerkbutt

[Ginngie]

okay you're both town we get it, make out already.

we're having a moment okay

[chesskid3]

We could also popcorn claim today.

[Ellibereth]

chesskid

do you think desperado is bad or scum.

[Ellibereth]

I'd be down for massclaim

[chesskid3]

Man that's really hard to say I can't read reck or desp at all this game

[Ginngie]

Man that's really hard to say I can't read reck or desp at all this game

why read when you can lynch

we have the bodies to do it

[Ginngie]

VOTE: RECK

[Ellibereth]

I want to perfect score this.

[hitogoroshi]

And now for the other thing I wanted to post yesterday. This will be a wallpost, but I'll try to keep it interesting.

Why Was Dan So Damn Jumpy: A Detective Story

A couple of things to note. First, bussing is a lot less dangerous in this setup than most, since you can just kill the hammerer and get the cocaine. I didn't get in to this before because Wicked's specific role is a really awful one to have to bus, so I still think that's a pretty pure wagon - but in general for this setup, a bus isn't much of a speed-bump, as long as you get townread for it. So, fake 1v1s are something I've been keeping an eye out for.

The second thing you need to know is that Dan already knew I'd be after him tomorrow:

I also don't like Dan <--> Wicked
on the plus side Wicked-scum pretty much gives us xyzzy-town doesn't it?

With this context, let's go in to D2, where Fire immediately drops a soft guilty:

So funny story.

I visited kagami last night and I saw shit you won't believe.

VOTE: Actiondan

And Dan responds with - the lamest, limpest answer ever:

Fun fact. Watcher is part of my role name.

I didn't visit kagami much less kill her so let's get this over with. Glorious 1v1 mortal combat

He

doesn't even vote for Firebringer

.

My first reaction reading this is - wow, this looks like really bad scum-scum acting. So I try to escalate it:

okay sure mortal combat time. dan, firebringer fullclaim role and flavor in your next posts. however, strip away modifiers that are solely rate or night limiting (eg if you're a one shot odd night watcher just claim "watcher"). but claim exactly what your role does, how you used it, and what result you got.

Now, from the perspective of Firebringer-town, this is when you post your mortal combat post to finish up Dan. And from the perspective of Dan, this is where you make up any damn nonsense just to force the details of Firebringer's role out. But instead, Dan's next post is a dumb joke:

Spiffeh shot kagami.

And Firebringer's next post is just making random conversation:

I think Spiffeh only reads posts with his name in it....

It really looks like both Firebringer and ActionDan knew that the other person wasn't going to have their heart in it.

Now, having said that - I would imagine that in the planned bus Firebringer would have held to the fake guilty, and not abandoned it. So I was a bit less certain as the day went on about this theory, becasuse Firebringer wasn't really setting himself to gain too much cred for the wagon.

That

was the reason I wanted a Dan post before day end - because I had a theory they were trying to get Dan to do an effort-post so Firebringer could have "second thoughts" and go for the other people he was angling for D2. Essentially trying to abort the gambit after Dan's reaction was so transparent that no one really gets cred for voting him. And of course, now we won't get that chance.

So I'm not 100% on this because I didn't get the chance to fully play it out. But still - Dan rolled over and died so easily with post 1259, and I still think the most compelling theory as to why is that Firebringer is his scumbuddy, and this was a planned fake 1v1 that was botched by Dan's awful post and his subsequent laziness to dig out of the hole.

Vote: Firebringer

[chesskid3]

Good lynches today: Bins,

Dan

, xyzzy, Desperado, Reck,

UT

, Ginngie in no order etc etc. I'm not exactly creaming my pants at the thought of a xyzzy lynch but I'm ok with it

You know I'm still totally ok with this. Minus Ginngie FINE, and agree that wicked being scum makes xyzzy less likely to be bad so would want to lynch away from there today.

[Ellibereth]

We're massclaiming.
How are we doing this
who's going first

[chesskid3]

Hito just went, so we're popcorning from him.

[Ellibereth]

we're okay with leaving the condition unclaimed?

[chesskid3]

o rite.

actually how confident are we that there's just 1 scum left? no death tonight, even night...seems like even and odd night 'vig' is real thought?

but then why was dan a 1-shot BP?

I think if we believe there's > 1 scum left we can leave condition unclaimed if just 1 he should claim it?

[Ellibereth]

Mafia member may use any ability he/she has in addition to submitting a night kill.

[hitogoroshi]

chess hammers
Hito burns my coke
I hammer
Hito burns chess' coke

alternate

I'm

really

trying to play the condition close to the vest here, so let me just say - I can't know ahead of time whether I'll be able to burn coke on a particular night. So I can't do a strict plan like this one.

To remove the hito is playing us card

This is something that's got me fucked up because we can't prove that he's burning it.

That's why I'm pledging not to steal without burns. Each burn I can get off is fucking devastating to scum, so if I get a second one and you start having WIFOM jitters, it really doesn't matter if I become a distraction because the damage has been done.

[Ellibereth]

whatever we can leave the condition off hito popcorn to someone

[chesskid3]

SOLD to the man with the stylish hat

[hitogoroshi]

Firebringer, you're up