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[Mulch]

how would I know you sent fruit if you're town and I'm scum

like how do I get this information unless you're my scum partner

wait did you just scumslip? you just admitted you're scum LOL

Because if I was town I woulden't lie? YOU FUCKED UP

why would you lie as scum that you sent fruit to HEM? that's the worst person you could send fruit to LOL

Exactly rofl you knew I wasn't lying and if I was scum I would be lying

not at all. scum!you had to do the NK because you're keeping the fucking town tracker alive during the night. you can't take the chance of me outing your scum partner's night action can you. it would end the game so you had to do the NK.

EXACTLY. IF IM SCUM IN THIS POSITION I DONT SEND FRUIT, I do the nightkill. And you just admitted and slipped that you knew I sent fruit lmfao

oh my god this is so dense...

you can just do the NK and not send fruit, sure. it's not what's relevant here. what's relevant is that if you HAVE TO do the NK because the tracker is being kept alive, then you HAVE TO claim that you sent fruit to the guy you killed. this is very easy to comprehend.

Hahahah then why did you admit you knew I sent fruit?

[Mulch]

Ok so is it mulch or Tor? Both have conviction.

I mean he scumslipped.

[CheekyTeeky]

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Ok so is it mulch or Tor? Both have conviction.

I mean he scumslipped.

But he said you scum slipped.

[Mulch]

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Ok so is it mulch or Tor? Both have conviction.

I mean he scumslipped.

But he said you scum slipped.

So, here's the deal. He made a large, large arguement about how that it was a "frame kill" and that I actually did the nightkill, and never sent fruit. And then he slipped in 2982 that I actually did send fruit. He spent the entire time accusing me of lying about it, and then admitted that I actually did send it.

[CheekyTeeky]

Is it possible you're both town and scum are lurking, getting us to talk ourselves into lynching each other?

[Toranaga]

Ok so is it mulch or Tor? Both have conviction.

yes it's me or mulch

let me explain why it's mulch:

mulch is a fruit vendor. he is trying to frame me on the NK and get me lynched here, but he fucked up on the details. here is how I'm sure he is scum:

if mulch is scum and is keeping the town tracker alive, he can't have his scum partner do the NK because of the risk I might track the scum partner. that means mulch has to do the NK himself.

if mulch has to do the NK himself, that means the only two people he can claim to have sent fruit is the NK, or his scum partner. he claimed to have sent fruit to the NK.

if mulch was town, he wouldn't send fruit to a hardclaim. he'd just send fruit to someone that would never get the NK ever, like you, thor, tacos or chip. the only two people that would be a terrible idea to send fruit to, is me or HEM. he sent fruit to HEM.

the whole idea behind fruit vendor is that you can prove you weren't doing anything scummy at night. he could have sent fruit to anyone else, but he sent fruit to the fucking NK. and based off how sure he is that this means I'm scum, town!mulch would definitely just send the fruit to anyone else on the off chance I'm scum. he wouldn't put himself into this spot because he is a rational player.

he didn't 'derp' as town. he tried to frame me. it's not hard to see this even if you don't know my alignment.

[Toranaga]

Is it possible you're both town and scum are lurking, getting us to talk ourselves into lynching each other?

it's not a possibility because no one in their right minds would ever believe the HEM claim. this was done as a frame attempt and mulch has trailed himself as the framer because he sent fruit to HEM.

the lynch is me or mulch and no one else. you go pick a side.

[Toranaga]

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Ok so is it mulch or Tor? Both have conviction.

I mean he scumslipped.

But he said you scum slipped.

So, here's the deal. He made a large, large arguement about how that it was a "frame kill" and that I actually did the nightkill, and never sent fruit. And then he slipped in 2982 that I actually did send fruit. He spent the entire time accusing me of lying about it, and then admitted that I actually did send it.

that's just a bunch of shit. what you can't do is visit someone else while doing the NK. you can send fruit to your NK, it's one visit.

[Mulch]

All your argument is invalid cause nobody would ever expect hem to be killed

[Mulch]

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Ok so is it mulch or Tor? Both have conviction.

I mean he scumslipped.

But he said you scum slipped.

So, here's the deal. He made a large, large arguement about how that it was a "frame kill" and that I actually did the nightkill, and never sent fruit. And then he slipped in 2982 that I actually did send fruit. He spent the entire time accusing me of lying about it, and then admitted that I actually did send it.

that's just a bunch of shit. what you can't do is visit someone else while doing the NK. you can send fruit to your NK, it's one visit.

Nope. Lies.

@everyone: ask mastina

[Toranaga]

All your argument is invalid cause nobody would ever expect hem to be killed

how about this einstein: don't send fruit to a hardclaim JUST IN CASE

JUST IN CASE

[Toranaga]

nananana don't 'ask mastina' me. you can't visit two people at night. it's unreasonable that we'd have a scum fruit vendor that can do such thing. and you know this because you were saying you're 'practically inno child' last gameday if scum got lynched, EXACTLY because you can't send fruit to someone other than the NK as the last scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok you both have good points. Although Tor's rely on a few assumptions.

The problem with HEM dying is that he was looking pretty buddy buddy with Tor before the end of D3. I wouldn't expect Tor to kill the person who tried to protect him as town. I wouldn't expect mafia not to kill the tracker over someone who looked pretty vanilla by nightfall. So in all honesty it makes sense as a mulch framing more than a Tor framing.

What are others thinking about this?

[Toranaga]

this is not important

mulch sending fruit to HEM. that's all you need.

[CheekyTeeky]

this is not important

mulch sending fruit to HEM. that's all you need.

Why did you choose HEM mulch?

[Mulch]

The problem with HEM dying is that he was looking pretty buddy buddy with Tor before the end of D3

???

He lock townread me, not tor. Your switching it up

[CheekyTeeky]

The problem with HEM dying is that he was looking pretty buddy buddy with Tor before the end of D3

???

He lock townread me, not tor. Your switching it up

Yes but HEM did that really strange claim protect gambit before day end, supposedly to protect Tor. That one of the reasons I'm leaning on your side.

[Mulch]

Why did you choose HEM mulch?

His hardclaim was so bad that I knew he would never be killed. Except if Tor was scum, but I thought he was town.

[Mulch]

The problem with HEM dying is that he was looking pretty buddy buddy with Tor before the end of D3

???

He lock townread me, not tor. Your switching it up

Yes but HEM did that really strange claim protect gambit before day end, supposedly to protect Tor. That one of the reasons I'm leaning on your side.

Don't agree but w/e works...

[CheekyTeeky]

Don't you see how weird it was that you chose HEM to send fruit to though? Like why not anyone else?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok well that makes sense.

[Toranaga]

Ok well that makes sense.

it does not, he is the only hardclaim besides me. why would he do it.

look, cheeky. if mulch is scum, a bunch of people get hardcleared on it. I think especially tacos that pushed him real hard, and probably the misère;fitz slot as well. It could be chip butty, but I think it's actually thor. look how thor voted villager tacos and then bounced when mulch's plan went sour.

I'm not gonna sit here and convince you guys of the obvious the whole two week time. but lynching me is a mislynch, which means you need perfect f5 and f3. now IDK what fitz and chip and tacos are gonna think, but you I can reason with. if I get mislynched, the only proper lynches next are mulch and then thor. Remember I was villager, I was right on porkens, I was right on HEM, I was right on skitter and I was right on mulch. if we mislynch me, the best chance at hitting a wolf at f3 is thor. don't let thor get away from townreading obvious scum the entire game. the other guys aren't any good at the game, thor is experienced and smart. he is your f3 lynch.

if we lynch mulch, I'm pretty sure thor > chip butty wins the game. if it's fitz or tacos I'll be surprised... not that they were villagery, but their interactions with wolves were good.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok well that makes sense.

But in a way @mulch, that means you thought Tor was going to die? Didn't you scum read him?

Pedit yeah ok so mulch is a good info lynch, I buy it. No sarcasm.

[Toranaga]

vote: mulch

literally no reason to drag the day.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Mulch