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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:12 am

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In post 4347, Cephrir wrote:I guess I had better start assuming regarding town then.... since you're not going to listen
...Regfan is town.

Like if I get in a LyLO with the moderator and Regfan I would probably lynch the moderator.

That is how Town Regfan is.
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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:13 am

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Alright so at this point I don't see how we ever win with math around unless we get a dream miracle. We likely have 3 scum to lynch and she will undoubtedly derpvote me at some point. Ergo, I am forced to vote for a lynch today and hope we get a doc save or something.

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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:13 am

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In post 4349, MathBlade wrote:Furthermore why didn't you try to establish who had what vote cast on day two regarding your claim?
I did!!! Have you even read my posts?????
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:14 am

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In post 4345, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4342, serrapaladin wrote:You don't get to call yourself incredibly town though Ceph :)

And anyways hebi doesn't need to be scum for you to be town. I do struggle a bit with whether scum!LLD would actually fakeclaim an inno to save a buddy. Just looking at LLD's play, I think her stance towards Reg (kind of soft bussing along with the "you need to keep me alive so I can check him" stuff) makes more sense as buddies than outright claiming to save hebi. That reads more like hard buddying tbh
Nope LLD and Regfan are not buddies.

0% chance of that.
Go on. If one of your points is that Reg gave you BP, I think the order of events was that Sakura hadn't yet claimed, so giving her the shot is actually a bit weird given that there were slots like the mastina hydra alive.
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:15 am

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In post 4351, Cephrir wrote:Alright so at this point I don't see how we ever win with math around unless we get a dream miracle. We likely have 3 scum to lynch and she will undoubtedly derpvote me at some point. Ergo, I am forced to vote for a lynch today and hope we get a doc save or something.

VOTE: LLD
#1 I am a They
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#3 Why don't you answer my question
#4 What part of no lynch do you not understand?
#5 If you are Town (doubtful) scum could kill you or scum could kill me (likely) TownCephrir doesn't just give up.

That LLD vote is super weird.
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:17 am

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In post 4353, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 4345, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4342, serrapaladin wrote:You don't get to call yourself incredibly town though Ceph :)

And anyways hebi doesn't need to be scum for you to be town. I do struggle a bit with whether scum!LLD would actually fakeclaim an inno to save a buddy. Just looking at LLD's play, I think her stance towards Reg (kind of soft bussing along with the "you need to keep me alive so I can check him" stuff) makes more sense as buddies than outright claiming to save hebi. That reads more like hard buddying tbh
Nope LLD and Regfan are not buddies.

0% chance of that.
Go on. If one of your points is that Reg gave you BP, I think the order of events was that Sakura hadn't yet claimed, so giving her the shot is actually a bit weird given that there were slots like the mastina hydra alive.
Do you really think I would announce if I had a vest or not?

Seriously.

Shit...Serra and Cephrir?

Regfan town is like completely obvious lololol
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:19 am

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What are you on about. Sakura (for some ungodly reason) claimed she received BP from Regfan, which he confirmed.
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:20 am

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In post 248, Regfan wrote:Ugh. I've actually got to head out for a bit. I'll dump where I'm at with everyone and then come back and go through LLD & Floodgates then.

Will split this up in hopes people actually read the posts;

TOWN: Varsoon, NMS, [Gap], Imperium, Hiplop, [Gap], MariaR


Varsoons entrance post in mirrors a lot of my thoughts at the time in that I agree that the LLD/Sakura early game interaction wasn't hugely alignment indicative for either and that there's generally better avenues to have discussion. I can understand his read and stance on GIF and Maria there too. I think the follow up questioning towards Maria in and comes across as him genuinely attempting to analyse the situation, pretty sure he's town here.

I don't mind NMS's entrance and admission to mostly only having townfeels in and the manner they soft-claimed in at all, both feel slightly genuine. Also really like that their stance and read on Varsoon matches where I'm at with him and how they went about responding to Floods vote on him in . Also really like that Jae seems to be where I'm at with both Sunlit and Baku in and . Pretty good chance that they're town.

Don't really like the questions that Imperium were throwing out in the entrance posts but I like that Nachos reads in mostly match mine at the time, same goes with his NMS read in . I think their reaction towards my replace in (Particularly Tammys posts) is much more likely if they're town here, a lot of them felt very comfortable and free-flowing and them taking the route of trying to throw me off if they're scum knowing I'm town is someone I don't think they'd do. Also think it'd have been a much more delayed reaction if they're scum but admit this is probably terrible reasoning and possibly a case of me wanting them to be town.

I like both Hiplops question towards LLD on her reasoning for picking Sakura in as well as his reaction towards her response in . I like most of his and find the reads there and his interaction that follows with Maria as him attempting to get a read on her, also like his reasoning for his scum read on Sunlit in and . Think he's probably town here.

I disagree with Marias read on the situation/LLD in her entrance posts but think the way she goes about it in posts like makes more sense as town than scum (?) and think she really believes what she was saying to Varsoon in and . I've got a weakish town read on her overall.
Example here 100% accurate townreads at the start of the game with the exception of serrapaladin who is currently unknown. I don't know of a scum who puts all their buddies as scumreads early.
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:23 am

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In post 4356, serrapaladin wrote:What are you on about. Sakura (for some ungodly reason) claimed she received BP from Regfan, which he confirmed.
Assume this is true (of which I neither confirm nor deny) then why would scum give the BP to a townie?

This also implies that scum could be night killed at some point possibly.
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:26 am

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In post 4354, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4351, Cephrir wrote:Alright so at this point I don't see how we ever win with math around unless we get a dream miracle. We likely have 3 scum to lynch and she will undoubtedly derpvote me at some point. Ergo, I am forced to vote for a lynch today and hope we get a doc save or something.

VOTE: LLD
#1 I am a They
#2 Still reading
#3 Why don't you answer my question
#4 What part of no lynch do you not understand?
#5 If you are Town (doubtful) scum could kill you or scum could kill me (likely) TownCephrir doesn't just give up.

That LLD vote is super weird.
3. I did
4. I understand it just fine and was it's strongest supporter until just now when I realized I had no choice
5. Scum won't kill me because they want you to mislynch me; and again, and again I don't understand why you think you know me when you clearly don't but I get fatalistic as town all the time
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:26 am

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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:26 am

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And so because his townreads are unreasonable good for page 10 or something that makes him town? Reg is obviously known to be decent at town, so if he was actually nailing the game from page 10 how on Earth is he still alive?
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:27 am

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We know reg gave you the vest, Sakura claimed that forever ago. That's how we all know where your town read on reg is coming from and have been disagreeing with basing it on that.
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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:28 am

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In post 4357, MathBlade wrote:Example here 100% accurate townreads at the start of the game with the exception of serrapaladin who is currently unknown. I don't know of a scum who puts all their buddies as scumreads early.
Oh my god THAT is why he's 100% for sure toen? Holy ducking hell
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:28 am

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In post 4358, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4356, serrapaladin wrote:What are you on about. Sakura (for some ungodly reason) claimed she received BP from Regfan, which he confirmed.
Assume this is true (of which I neither confirm nor deny) then why would scum give the BP to a townie?

This also implies that scum could be night killed at some point possibly.
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:28 am

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scum are not getting a giveable BP vest in this setup
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:29 am

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In post 827, Floodgates wrote:Don't worry Cephrir you're one of my weaker scumreads so I'm sure by the time we've lynched your buds and a townie or two you'll have nightkilled my slot and her slot and won't have to worry anymore.
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:30 am

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In post 4358, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4356, serrapaladin wrote:What are you on about. Sakura (for some ungodly reason) claimed she received BP from Regfan, which he confirmed.
Assume this is true (of which I neither confirm nor deny) then why would scum give the BP to a townie?

This also implies that scum could be night killed at some point possibly.
Look I'm sorry that Sakura claimed receiving BP, but you're not really helping the situation by now trying to be vague about it.

Buddying? I don't think scum particularly have to fear being NKed and it might be harder explaining why you sent the vest to scum. Why would town give BP to anyone but the strongest player they townread? In the list you posted he had NMS as second most town, so surely that's an obvious target.
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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:31 am

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In post 4365, drealmerz7 wrote:scum are not getting a giveable BP vest in this setup
In post 4316, drealmerz7 wrote:regfan, if town
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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:31 am

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In post 4366, MathBlade wrote:
In post 827, Floodgates wrote:Don't worry Cephrir you're one of my weaker scumreads so I'm sure by the time we've lynched your buds and a townie or two you'll have nightkilled my slot and her slot and won't have to worry anymore.
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:32 am

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VC 1-10: Minor
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Desperado
(4): hebichan, hiplop, Sakura Hana, Floodgates
baku and munna
(4): Regfan, Brian Skies, NoticeMeSenpai, drealmerz7
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(2): Lady Lambdadelta, Nosferatu
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(2): baku and munna, MariaR
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(1): Varsoon
Imperium
(1): Syryana
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(1): Cephrir
Varsoon
(1): Desperado

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(1): Imperium

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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:33 am

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In post 4364, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4358, MathBlade wrote: why would scum give the BP to a townie?
TO LOOK TOWN
phewww this is bad

don't make sadface at that serra that is just how I approach the game when making statements like that when I don't have an actual sane cop confirmation of someone's alignment
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:33 am

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Syryana is v/la until August 20

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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:34 am

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In post 4371, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 4364, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4358, MathBlade wrote: why would scum give the BP to a townie?
TO LOOK TOWN
phewww this is bad

don't make sadface at that serra that is just how I approach the game when making statements like that when I don't have an actual sane cop confirmation of someone's alignment
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:34 am

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baku and munna
(9): Regfan, Brian Skies, NoticeMeSenpai, drealmerz7, Cephrir, hiplop, MariaR, Sakura Hana, Varsoon
Desperado
(3): Floodgates, hebichan, baku and munna
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(1): Desperado

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(1): Imperium

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