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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:49 am

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V/LA until the 16th of October


I will still try to post, though.

Anyway, is there anything in particular that anyone would like to draw my attention to?

In one game, my point about Cabd's making a point of not voting may hold. Of course, if they are known to do this in every game, it can be regarded as completely NAI. I will, however, analyse Cabd some more.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:39 am

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In post 50, Cabd wrote:The setup isn't anything too complex, I will note we will NOT get flips night one; and no-lynching in this setup is almost always the wrong move.


The two "self-docs" here should be treated somewhat like you would bulletproofs in the matrix 6 setup, with the note that them claiming early like the matrix 6 BP strat is a bad idea.
Can anyone else see it here? I'm being vague intentionally.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:40 am

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I was right lel.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:45 am

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In post 177, Cabd wrote:I was right lel.
As town I would have expected you to have a different reaction. I'll confess I don't base anything on meta so there is a chance I'm wrong, which you'll get to refute when I point it out what it is I see. Hint: it's not the setup error.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:46 am

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I know it's not the setup error~

There's another good reason to make the slip you think is a slip.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:50 am

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In post 179, Cabd wrote:I know it's not the setup error~

There's another good reason to make the slip you think is a slip.
Does it only make sense in the context of your overall entrance?
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:52 am

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Are we playing mafia, or lateral thinking puzzles?
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:52 am

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BY all means though, proceed, senator.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:59 am

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In post 181, Cabd wrote:Are we playing mafia, or lateral thinking puzzles?
In post 182, Cabd wrote:BY all means though, proceed, senator.
Lol! Sorry I'm trying to maximise on the potential of this push so that it will provide reads on others' reactions as well as on yours.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:00 pm

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K well it has nothing to do with my opening this game but that's all you get.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:06 pm

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In post 175, BTD6_maker wrote:
V/LA until the 16th of October


I will still try to post, though.

Anyway, is there anything in particular that anyone would like to draw my attention to?

In one game, my point about Cabd's making a point of not voting may hold. Of course, if they are known to do this in every game, it can be regarded as completely NAI. I will, however, analyse Cabd some more.
Not voting is an every game thing.


However; there is plenty of game data out there for me. Modern games aren't included yet but my wiki may prove helpful.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:09 pm

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In post 50, Cabd wrote:The setup isn't anything too complex, I will note we will NOT get flips night one; and no-lynching in this setup is almost always the wrong move.
This is what we're analyzing?

Everything before the semicolon is just fact, and everything after the semicolon is fact for anyone who is town. I guess you must be picking out the word "almost" and trying to argue that that its a scum slip because the only reason to use that qualifier is if your alignment is scum.

...I must be missing it still cause that'd be a weak thing to argue as a scum slip
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:11 pm

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also, 5 days is a heck of a long time for a guy who has posted in the game twice to vla for. pls post over that time or replace out.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:20 pm

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yea i don't see what you're talking about here cheeky
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:20 pm

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In post 50, Cabd wrote:The setup isn't anything too complex, I will note we will NOT get flips night one; and no-lynching in this setup is almost always the wrong move.


The two "self-docs" here
should be treated somewhat like you
would bulletproofs in the matrix 6 setup, with the note that them claiming early like the matrix 6 BP strat is a bad idea.
is it that the voicing here indicates scum pov somehow?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:21 pm

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My personal guess was the number two meaning "cabd has a partner and assumed the town PRs would too" but fuckifiknow.jpg
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:22 pm

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wait doesn't that fall under the setup error though?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:23 pm

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Maybe. Who knows.

I replaced in blind, really, because i saw the player list and liked it.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:24 pm

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In post 192, Cabd wrote:I replaced in blind, really, because i saw the player list and liked it.
how does this relate to what we were discussing?
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:26 pm

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As in, I didn't really read the setup; sorta skimmed and then made that post. That's where the "2" came from and why it's not related to my entrance into the game, but more the replacement itself.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:44 pm

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Where'd you go, Cheeky?
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:45 pm

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In post 195, morph the cat wrote:Where'd you go, Cheeky?
Sorry, this was me.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:48 pm

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Ok I'm here I only really wanted Sobolev to answer, so I'll proceed.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:02 pm

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In post 50, Cabd wrote:The setup isn't anything too complex,
I will note we will NOT get flips night one;
and no-lynching in this setup is almost always the wrong move.


The two "self-docs" here should be treated somewhat like you would bulletproofs in the matrix 6 setup, with the note that them claiming early like the matrix 6 BP strat is a bad idea.
Ok so the bold is what pings me. We know, and Cabd has admitted, that he rushed in and didn't read the setup. If he were vanilla town he would have received the role PM which gives us the "lingering spirit" ability. He would not know that scum cannot whisper and kill the same night if he did not receive the scum role PM. His mistake with the two-self docs initially alerted me to the fact he hadn't read the set-up, so one can assume that he's only read his role PM and that is the information he's basing this post on.

Therefore I believe Cabd is scum.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:04 pm

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hmmm i can see some at least one reasonable way town could have posted that but i want to see cabd's response first

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