Beneath The Mask [Endgame]

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 25 Lil Uzi Vert ------- 4 ( Not Chara, Smocaine, Purple Nurple, Mulch ) L- 8 Smocaine ----------- 4 ( Creature, WhemeStar, Chesskid3, Brian Skies ) L- 8 Purple Nurple ------ 3 ( RationalNumbers, Lil Uzi Vert, Alchemist21 ) L- 9 Elibereth ---------- 2 ( Kise, davesaz ) L- 10 Yume --------------- 2 ( Ramicus, Maki and Kaito ) L- 10 Brian Skies -------- 1 ( Leonshade ) L- 11 Mulch -------------- 1 ( Elibereth ) L- 11 ChikoritasInAction - 1 ( Varsoon ) L- 12 Ramicus ------------ 1 ( ChikoritasInAction ) L- 11 Varsoon ------------ 1 ( xRECKONERx ) L- 10 Not Voting --------- 2 ( PenguinPower, Yume ) With 22 alive, it takes 12 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-24 19:13:48)

FOS COUNT 1 . 25 Ramicus ------------ 3 ( Purple Nurple, RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) xRECKONERx --------- 3 ( Purple Nurple, RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Chesskid3 ---------- 3 ( Not Chara, RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) RationalNumbers ---- 3 ( Purple Nurple, Leonshade, Smocaine ) Smocaine ----------- 3 ( Purple Nurple, Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Ellibereth --------- 3 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Maki and Kaito ----- 2 ( Purple Nurple, Smocaine ) Not Chara ---------- 2 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Varsoon ------------ 2 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Purple Nurple ------ 2 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Alchemist21 -------- 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) ChikoritasInAction - 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Varsoon ------------ 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Yume --------------- 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) WhemeStar ---------- 2 ( Smocaine, Davesaz ) Davesaz ------------ 1 ( Smocaine ) Creature ----------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Kise --------------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Brian Skies -------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Lil Uzi Vert ------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Mulch -------------- 1 ( Smocaine ) PenguinPower ------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Not FoS'ing -------- 16 ( Alchemist21, Chesskid3, ChikoritasInAction, Creature, Ellibereth, Kise, Lil Uzi Vert, Maki and Kaito, Mulch, PenguinPower, Ramcius, Varsoon, WhemeStar, xRECKONERx, Yume ) With 22 alive, it takes 12 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-24 19:13:48)

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I wanted to see if I was imagining things

[Not Chara]

Is that in the OP? You can be vanilla in a role madness game.

...yes, and?
what's that have to do with anything? how often do scum publicly PR hunt to make sure they don't accidentally kill the

one

vanilla townie that could be in a role madness game, anyway?

i usually find the PR-hunting narrative goes nowhere when looking for scum. i rarely see scum do it and more often than anything see town doing it when trying to solve the game. i think Alchemist's behaviour this game has been suspicious, too, and i don't see what's scummy about Kise's concern with it. i don't like the feelings i'm getting from LUV here either.

i do have a problem with Kise however, that would be how aware he is of his own PR hunting and how scummy it does look. it's possible he's doing that on purpose entirely so players can think things like what i'm thinking above. his LUV read also bothered me but i need to reread for that. as of now i think it's still a townlean.

it's possible i'm reading LUV's smug attitude as scum instead of that actually being indicative of scum, but his scumreads so far haven't impressed me in their reasoning. feels like he's less interested in pushing scum and more interested in leaving things as they are and 'pushing' in a passive sense.

Rational is town and i don't want Nurple to be the wagon today either.

[Not Chara]

VOTE: Smocaine
how'd you get such strong townreads when you can't muster a scumread?

[Not Chara]

actually i've answered my own question. i don't have any strong scumreads either. Elli/LUV/Smocaine are all good wagons though.

[Not Chara]

VOTE: LUV
ignore my brief moment of whatever that was. i have to stop forgetting to post before looking at my posts from last night. LUV's scumreads are all not good.

[ChikoritasInAction]

NAH I'M BACK FROM THE DEAD FUCKERS

in reality, I've been moving for the past few days so shits been a little hectic. I had mm4 catch me up and it seems like there's like 4-5 people who are just wall posting/arguing like children which is pretty standard for a 22p game...

-echo the ghost

[Kise]

Who am I hunting? I recall several people volunteering their roles and exposing Akira. I don't remember me asking anyone to confirm if I'm right or wrong about their role

Wellllll Yume is one person I've questioned, but that's because of what she claimed and how difficult it is getting her attention

Speaking of Yume, that lynchproof skill seems final bossy to me, just saying

Speaking of bosses holy shit I've died probably ten times already!

[Not Chara]

that's true, i was more referring to your earlier commentary about PR hunting. i'll find it when i'm not on mobile.
i've not seen lynchproof except on scum, no, but i doubt it can't be a town role in a large role madness. it isn't enough for me to want to lynch her without seeing if she makes good on her promise to do more soon.

what are you playing Kise?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’m going to be honest Chara and say I have no clue why you scum read me.

[Varsoon]

I'm a bit sad that my push on Chikoritas went nowhere, even when people agreed that a unclaimed loved modifier is probably a scum indicator.
But hey fuck me.

[Not Chara]

oh, while you're here, i remembered what my problem with you was. you assumed LUV was a town PR purposefully playing lowkey to avoid attention, but didn't have any reason to think so beyond you believing it a common strategy for town PRs. what do you actually think of his play? you've mentioned being suspicious of certain things he's said. what have you gotten from this conversation with him on the last few pages?

pedit: i'll go over it again later, i'm surprised you don't know why. what's your read on me LUV?

Varsoon: i don't think an unclaimed loved modifier is a scum indicator in the first place, sorry. it's difficult to follow a push you don't seem sure about yourself.

[Not Chara]

first part of 1911 was to Kise, whoops.

[Not Chara]

I’m going to be honest Chara and say I have no clue why you scum read me.

i'm having a hard time believe you're lacking in this much self-awareness. you've ignored my questions when you've felt them self-explanatory and getting information about your thoughts on anything is like pulling teeth. your Wheme scumread is lazy and i've explained my other issues with your behaviour in several posts if you'd just ISO me.

[WhemeStar]

@mod I like your new avi

[Not Chara]

@mod I like your new avi

Wheme, what's with the lack of explanation for your desire to lynch Smocaine?

[Alisae]

@mod I like your new avi

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[Ramcius]

can you guys explain, why you trust Yume's lynchproof claim? Cause to me it sounded just as a joke answer to my joke about lynching her

[Not Chara]

it didn't look like a joke to me. it looked like a vague threat, and from someone besides Yume i likely would have voted it. i wouldn't be surprised if it's fake, however.
...i don't know how to read her, sorry. i want to see if what i've heard and what Drixx says about her townplay improving is true. she's not a slot i'm concerned with today.

[Smocaine]

actually i've answered my own question. i don't have any strong scumreads either. Elli/LUV/Smocaine are all good wagons though.

What are you scumreading me for, if not for that lack of scum reads?

[Not Chara]

i don't think you're doing much to remedy that fact. that specific question is just one i realized wasn't useful after i said it. and i think you're a good wagon because pushing you seems like it would have results. you seem to have a grasp on who your townreads are but you're not pushing anyone or looking for ways to get into the game.

[Smocaine]

Luv, as scum, what is your go-to pocketing move?

NC, is sheeping my townreads not an effort to get into the game?

[Not Chara]

i don't mind sheeping one's townreads, but if you don't go beyond that then all you're doing is making one of them a double-voter. i guess i just want to see more active participation, i'm not even sure if i'd call it a scumread. i'm interested in the meta Creature and Whemestar seem to have on you, though.

[RationalNumbers]

What made you townread us NC?

@EC - We're well beyond the point where either of our slots can point at the other and say or imply "I didn't start it, I'm just reacting". My point was that you went at Mathblade in ways that they just won't understand, and I'm fairly sure you know that. I didn't like it, because it felt like dirty fighting.

THAT SAID: I'm currently going through the process of dumping your entire ISO and the context for it into a document and stripping your name from it to help avoid a bias where I associate your name with the scumread I have starting out. This evening my time, I'm going to be teaching Math in real time how I case people and why it works. Contrary to what you might be assuming, I will be attempting to demonstrate that your slot is town and I'll be using your posts and the context of them to try and do that. I really do wish there was more read progression to work with, but I think there's enough posts to get a pretty reliable and rational conclusion.

Apart from that ... I'm kind of interested in a gist of the case against LUV. I'm also interested in knowing why the prior "Key dies today" crowd seem to have totally dropped that stance upon replace in. Is it just being polite and letting BS have some time to play, or did BS send out a strong town tell or ...?

~Drixx

[Varsoon]

@NotChara: If you're looking for conviction, it's my best read so far in this shit show.