Newbie 1828: Utopia! - Game Over!

[Porkens]

I appreciate the effort that went into this post.

Can you quote the posts of aris that you feel have helped sort scum from town?

[Porkens]

Actually don't, it's a waste of time.

I'll help you shake acid if you like.

vote: acidpheonix

[Inferno390]

I appreciate the effort that went into this post.

Can you quote the posts of aris that you feel have helped sort scum from town?

Yeah, sure!

So she's basically just saying no to my vote?
Well, that's helpful.

It would appear so.

Was there a reason for the vote? It was quite naked.

Is there any reason you chose Him in particular?
What reactions were you expecting?

Also, I just noticed your shiny Azumarill and love it!!!

>porkens scum
yes do please expand

Porkens is very strange in tone and feels like he is leading sheep to their deaths.

More to come

^^^This is the one that feels odd to me.

Here is the only post that was actually scumhunting:

I'll be honest, I lol'd at this! XD
What was your big revelation though? Like, why did you suddenly think I was scummy?

Hmm. I noticed low activity, and a lot of joking around....


Going to wait and see what others comment on this.

This post is potentially scummy, as Porkens noted. I think newbscum is less likely to say it though, so I'm not holding it as a hard scumlean.

that should be enough to stir the pot

WTF? Are you just trying to stir things up or actually find scum?
It's posts like these that really get to me!

Ok fine.
VOTE: Aristophanes

Is there a barf emoji??
:barf:

You just gave in, just like that, with no fight or anything?

Aristophanes did say yesterday to wait until tomorrow and has not not even posted. Really the only scumhunting he tried to do was when he was asking me why I voted for someone even though it was literally RVS. At least Acid has done more scumhunting.
VOTE: Aristophanes

So this is just a vote because I have been somewhat of an active lurker? With the actual content this thread has started to get, why is this the thing you deem worth a vote?

No, see, this looks like an attempt from Porkens to get a quick lynch on Aristophanes.
I still feel like your "scumhunting" wasn't very realistic.
VOTE: Porkens

This is a very white knight-y post...I'm torn as to whether I like the defense or not tbh! I'll have to look more into inferno to find out my full thoughts.

that list should have had ari not inferno

Yeah I've got the same list.

Let's see!

VOTE: Aristophanes

I think I meant to quote 320 ot 321 but oh well.
Could the two of you go through the reasoning for your scum lists and Nauci, why vote for me there instead of any of the others on the list?

Yeah I've got the same list.

Let's see!

VOTE: Aristophanes

this is an unannounced l-1. scum is on this aristo wagon, just not sure if it's both scum.

I mean, there is a very good chance scum are on this wagon. Who are your biggest scumreads from it?
Also, this post leaves me with townfeels unlike that Inferno post, so that's nice!

Lol I like you, Darren! XD

Uh, I simply can't shake this Porkens read. Gorny and Inferno are now on the list too.

Lol I like you, Darren! XD

Uh, I simply can't shake this Porkens read. Gorny and Inferno are now on the list too.

But let's say you HAD to pick ONE, which one would it be?

They are in order

Porkens
Gorny
Inferno

Then I realize that in order to get the focus off of myself and back onto scum, I needed to accept the claim strategy. I wanted NSG to be town because that's how I read her. So I just decided to go with that.

This is the main part there that I dislike, but overall that was a solid post.

Hmm...
I could be happy with this for now
VOTE: Gorny

This really helps, it's almost like a tl;dr for the last few pages. But my vote is staying on Aris because 1) I don't think his post was all that good 2) I didn't want his wagon to slip by so fast, I want to see how he posts whilst he has a vote on him.

darren, I have played long enough that votes on me have little to no effect on my play. I'm not saying I'm a great player, just that it doesnt actually spur any activity from me!

Like I said, he hasn't posted a lot. But you've got to admit, this is far more than Acid.

[Porkens]

That's fine for now, can you make your case on acid, then?

[Porkens]

I thought Aristo had a change of heart after I said I'm keeping my vote on him but he's literally done absolutely zero scumhunting since then. Everyone else keeps changing my reads list and I'm trying to get my reads straight.

Aristo claimed BP.

[Inferno390]

That's fine for now, can you make your case on acid, then?

Sure.

When I read back through Acid in ISO, the first thing I notice is how many posts there are that provide nothing. There are so many posts that provide literally nothing to the game. Posts 49, 56, and 71 as examples, though you can see it all the way at post 325. There's just so much nothing to go through, it almost makes me think that she's been unhelpful

on purpose.

It all feels incredibly off.

Another thing I'm noticing is that whenever she does act like she's scumhunting (which is not often), the posts do seem a little vague, unconnected, and she never follows up on them. Post 213, 363+367, and
412 are all examples of this.

And then there's posts like 349 and 354 halfheartedly sprinkled throughout, where the post just seems... weird. 354 is the best example of this, where she says that she hasn't read into Aris at all, but then agrees wit hyou anyways? It's very odd.

Al in all, it feels like a pretty scummy game for Acid to me.

[Porkens]

Ok! I'll lynch acid with you.

[darrenwoodward10]

UNVOTE:
Bah! I'm too conflicted. Every time I think I'm on to something there is always an argument against it. I should probably start keeping notes.

[Inferno390]

Ok! I'll lynch acid with you.

But see, now you're all eager to lynch Acid. It just feels too scummy.

I'm going to leave my vote on you for now, and if I nothing happens involving you,

then

I'll move my vote to Acid closer to the lynch deadline.

[Inferno390]

Official Vote Count

Porkens

(3): northsidegal, Inferno390, Gorny

Gorny

(2): acidphoenix, Aristophanes

acidphoenix

(1): Porkens

darrenwoodward10

(1): Noodle

Not Voting

(2): darrenwoodward10, Nauci

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Pulled this from here: http://www.robandkriskris.com/votecounter/

[Porkens]

Well, if you aren't willing to vote for the guy you just made a case on then…

vote: inferno

[Inferno390]

Well, if you aren't willing to vote for the guy you just made a case on then…

vote: inferno

I am willing Just not at this point when your previous post looks like an attempt to draw me into a wagon. It makes me feel like you know that Acid's not scum. I don't like that. Even if I think she is scum, you seem too eager to get someone lynched to make me trust just jumping on the wagon with you. So I'm not voting for her... yet. That is subject to change as our lynch deadline draws closer.

[acidphoenix]

.

[acidphoenix]

also i'm a he

also i'm town

[Porkens]

Well, if you aren't willing to vote for the guy you just made a case on then…

vote: inferno

I am willing Just not at this point when your previous post looks like an attempt to draw me into a wagon. It makes me feel like you know that Acid's not scum. I don't like that. Even if I think she is scum, you seem too eager to get someone lynched to make me trust just jumping on the wagon with you. So I'm not voting for her... yet. That is subject to change as our lynch deadline draws closer.

am I scummier than acid to you?

[darrenwoodward10]

Well, if you aren't willing to vote for the guy you just made a case on then…

vote: inferno

I am willing Just not at this point when your previous post looks like an attempt to draw me into a wagon. It makes me feel like you know that Acid's not scum. I don't like that. Even if I think she is scum, you seem too eager to get someone lynched to make me trust just jumping on the wagon with you. So I'm not voting for her... yet. That is subject to change as our lynch deadline draws closer.

This is incredibly scummy, you created the wagon yourself, criticise Porkens for thinking its a good idea, begin to jump off the wagon all whilst you are very confused.
VOTE: Inferno
I hope to post a wall of text with my reads soon but don't count on it too much.

[Inferno390]

Well, if you aren't willing to vote for the guy you just made a case on then…

vote: inferno

I am willing Just not at this point when your previous post looks like an attempt to draw me into a wagon. It makes me feel like you know that Acid's not scum. I don't like that. Even if I think she is scum, you seem too eager to get someone lynched to make me trust just jumping on the wagon with you. So I'm not voting for her... yet. That is subject to change as our lynch deadline draws closer.

This is incredibly scummy, you created the wagon yourself, criticise Porkens for thinking its a good idea, begin to jump off the wagon all whilst you are very confused.
VOTE: Inferno
I hope to post a wall of text with my reads soon but don't count on it too much.

A. I never created a wagon. I just gave reasons for why I think Acid is scummy. Porkens is the one calling for the lynch.
B. I'm fine with Porkens wanting to lynch her. I'm not comfortable with the way he stated it. I'm never going to jump onto a wagon where someone goes, "Well let's get him/her lynched then." That seems WAY too eager for a lynch. If you, or Noodle, or Aris had agreed with me and moved for the wagon, I probably would've gave my vote. But I'm not comfortable with Porkens as it is, and the sudden push for Acid to be scum NOW, after he's been saying that she's done more than Aris in the game, seems mighty susp. to me.
C. I can't jump off a wagon that doesn't even exist yet.

also i'm a he

also i'm town

You do realize that posts like this help you none? The fact hat you keep saying that you're town is becoming an AoR. If you want to prove you're town, then start actually scumhunting.

[Inferno390]

Well, if you aren't willing to vote for the guy you just made a case on then…

vote: inferno

I am willing Just not at this point when your previous post looks like an attempt to draw me into a wagon. It makes me feel like you know that Acid's not scum. I don't like that. Even if I think she is scum, you seem too eager to get someone lynched to make me trust just jumping on the wagon with you. So I'm not voting for her... yet. That is subject to change as our lynch deadline draws closer.

am I scummier than acid to you?

Not yet. But I am leaning scum on you anyways, and the way you just jumped all over my Acid scumread doesn't make me trust you anymore than I did before.

[acidphoenix]

.

why is your vote being determined by who's on a wagon if it doesn't change your read of the person

maybe it can make you more cautious about a person but you're outright saying "I still think acid is definitely most likely to flip scum but I'm not going to vote him now"

also >yet

[Inferno390]

.

why is your vote being determined by who's on a wagon if it doesn't change your read of the person

maybe it can make you more cautious about a person but you're outright saying "I still think acid is definitely most likely to flip scum but I'm not going to vote him now"

also >yet

Because the way Porkens jumped all over an attempt to lynch you makes me feel like he's scum trying to force a quick wagon with me, and then trying to build up to a mislynch.
It throws my read off a little bit and makes me uncomfortable with voting you.

[acidphoenix]

also what the hell is the "isn't scumhunting" thing

not contributing is somewhat fair but I've at least made my opinions clear

fragmented is fair but I don't see how you're going from "he posts his reads staccato and in response to posts" to "scumhunting is fake"

regardless though "hasn't scumhunted" is blatantly untrue and I've ~clearly at least shown progression, reads, and places I want to vote

[acidphoenix]

"oh no porkens placed a vote on the person he had as a top sr at the beginning of the phase"

I don't remember what detours he took other than Ari but .

[Inferno390]

also what the hell is the "isn't scumhunting" thing

not contributing is somewhat fair but I've at least made my opinions clear

fragmented is fair but I don't see how you're going from "he posts his reads staccato and in response to posts" to "scumhunting is fake"

regardless though "hasn't scumhunted" is blatantly untrue and I've ~clearly at least shown progression, reads, and places I want to vote

I have not either seen you ever have an opinion, nor have I seen a single post of yours that would be considered scumhunting. You've never explained any of your "scumreads," seem more than willing to sheep people, and have posted little in relevance to this game or a scumread at all.
You've not "clearly shown" anything.

[acidphoenix]

lack of explanation, sure

lack of opinions is blatantly false

[Nauci]

Inferno, what exactly do you mean by the "follow up" you keep expecting from players?

Have any other players exhibited the "following up" you're talking about?

I just deleted a wall of text going into the reasoning for asking but I think I'm going to stop vomiting my thought processes into the thread because it just provides potential smokescreen and excuses for people who should answer on their own.

Guys! I'm learning! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ