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[Toranaga]

I'm saying I don't think you are

I'm saying it's a lot of bussing and naturally reacting to stuff in the game for you to be scum pay attention

[Thor665]

vote: thor665

From someone who likes to complain about how bad everyone is playing we get this

[Toranaga]

that porkens stuff though

jfc man

I was strong townreading porkens as well for the same reasons but don't vote villagers. like, how hard is it tacos, to just not vote someone you think is town

REACTIONZ, good job jfc

[Sergtacos]

I'm saying I don't think you are

I'm saying it's a lot of bussing and naturally reacting to stuff in the game for you to be scum pay attention

Sorry, english isn't my first language. Can you rephrase that?

[Toranaga]

vote: thor665

From someone who likes to complain about how bad everyone is playing we get this

you are a 2009 account not hardclearing me. I got L-1 and I waited to see who caps, and yet you didn't come here to say 'let's not do this please', oh no, what did you to thor. 'meh and more meh'. that's scummy.

[Toranaga]

I'm saying you're town tacos

I think you're town now

[Thor665]

vote: thor665

From someone who likes to complain about how bad everyone is playing we get this

you are a 2009 account not hardclearing me. I got L-1 and I waited to see who caps, and yet you didn't come here to say 'let's not do this please', oh no, what did you to thor. 'meh and more meh'. that's scummy.

So it's a scumtell to not hardclear you even though I've been actively defending you for days from people who openly scumread you?
Tell me more about this amazing tell wherein I haven't been defending you.
Would you like a hug and for me to tell you how special you are for self voting and whining like Mulch?
Who was scum.
So if you're town you're playing like how someone who was scum thought the game should be played.
jfc maybe?
You tell me.

[Thor665]

You also did your "test" after I finally noted, after days of defense, that you were being so whiny I almost was willing to let you die.
Really neat "test" huh?

[Toranaga]

chip is town for many reasons but especially because with the way he is playing, he'd totally cap me as last scum there. he is such a brazen slot if he is scum he'd flat out do the anti village thing and get me lynched.

I... kinda love fitz' catch up. he doesn't need to do it, and I fucking like his reasoning for scum reading me. I mean, it's terrible reasoning, but comes from a townie perspective I feel.

tacos' interactions with mulch are just too genuine to come from scum IMO.

guys, this might be my last moment of trying to win this. thor is the last scum.

[Toranaga]

vote: thor665

From someone who likes to complain about how bad everyone is playing we get this

you are a 2009 account not hardclearing me. I got L-1 and I waited to see who caps, and yet you didn't come here to say 'let's not do this please', oh no, what did you to thor. 'meh and more meh'. that's scummy.

So it's a scumtell to not hardclear you even though I've been actively defending you for days from people who openly scumread you?
Tell me more about this amazing tell wherein I haven't been defending you.
Would you like a hug and for me to tell you how special you are for self voting and whining like Mulch?
Who was scum.
So if you're town you're playing like how someone who was scum thought the game should be played.
jfc maybe?
You tell me.

for you, yes. for you it's a scumtell. because you have been playing this for near a decade. you understand at least the basics of the mechanics to know 1) the setup does not exist in MS when I'm scum and 2) Mulch' visiting HEM hardclears me. you're the only player here that's supposed to know better, and yet you pretend you don't.

also, you have played with mulch before, and IIRC mulch in both alignments. you refused to acknowledge the great disparity between his scum and town play. you read him townie when it was pretty obvious by skimming his other games that this was hitting exactly his scum range, not his town range at all.

[Sergtacos]

I have Fitz townlock. He put in a lot of effort into the ISO read and I don't think a scum replacement would bother doing that.

[Toranaga]

You also did your "test" after I finally noted, after days of defense, that you were being so whiny I almost was willing to let you die.
Really neat "test" huh?

the ONLY reason why I'm not being lock clear - 100% the only reason - is because town are all newbies who don't understand mechanics. give me anyone reasonable and they'd mechanically, tonally, with my interactions with flipped scum, hardclear me.

[Sergtacos]

But Tor, you just joined july 2017 and you know a lot about mechanics in this game?

[Toranaga]

I'm obviously a veteran, just never played on MS before this game

[Toranaga]

and I went through games to check what the mechanics look like in order to establish mulch's claim along with everyone else's claim. so I also have some understanding of MS mechanics, at least when it comes to normal 13er games here.

[Sergtacos]

and I went through games to check what the mechanics look like in order to establish mulch's claim along with everyone else's claim. so I also have some understanding of MS mechanics, at least when it comes to normal 13er games here.

Link me the games

[Toranaga]

no, you go do that yourself

[Toranaga]

I have linked many games already, check my ISO if you wanna know

[Thor665]

for you, yes. for you it's a scumtell. because you have been playing this for near a decade. you understand at least the basics of the mechanics to know 1) the setup does not exist in MS when I'm scum and 2) Mulch' visiting HEM hardclears me. you're the only player here that's supposed to know better, and yet you pretend you don't.

By that logic you're scum.

also, you have played with mulch before, and IIRC mulch in both alignments. you refused to acknowledge the great disparity between his scum and town play. you read him townie when it was pretty obvious by skimming his other games that this was hitting exactly his scum range, not his town range at all.

You're misrepresenting what I was actually arguing there - but I'll agree that I handwaved your meta case on him.
So?
That's still not a particularly valid case - and you should be aware of that.

[Toranaga]

for you, yes. for you it's a scumtell. because you have been playing this for near a decade. you understand at least the basics of the mechanics to know 1) the setup does not exist in MS when I'm scum and 2) Mulch' visiting HEM hardclears me. you're the only player here that's supposed to know better, and yet you pretend you don't.

By that logic you're scum.

also, you have played with mulch before, and IIRC mulch in both alignments. you refused to acknowledge the great disparity between his scum and town play. you read him townie when it was pretty obvious by skimming his other games that this was hitting exactly his scum range, not his town range at all.

You're misrepresenting what I was actually arguing there - but I'll agree that I handwaved your meta case on him.
So?
That's still not a particularly valid case - and you should be aware of that.

you're also hardcore POE'd down if we are to clear tacos on the mulch interactions

[Sergtacos]

I have linked many games already, check my ISO if you wanna know

You're lock town to me. I don't think scum would bother checking.

UNVOTE: Tor

[Sergtacos]

Whats POE?

[Toranaga]

process of elimination

once you remove people as likely scum partners of mulch and skitter it boils down to just thor

[Toranaga]

important to note: whoever mulch was trying to kill after skitter flipped is >>>>rand town, because he'd have to do the NKs himself and wouldn't send fruit to anyone, which would eventually out him and get him lynched.

[Thor665]

you're also hardcore POE'd down if we are to clear tacos on the mulch interactions

If I'm hardcore process of eliminationed down then you're using poor logic or are scum.
So what'sthe clear logic that clears Fitz and Serg and not me?
I'd love to hear that explained without you sounding daft.

I'm starting to think a fitz/you lynch is the way to a win right now.
And I'm even thinking its not you and you're just being daft.
Which leaves me wondering why you're clearing fitz for scum reading you and scum reading me for no defending you enough.