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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:11 pm

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ok so cabd is claiming vig? i'm confused af.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:11 pm

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votecount 1.24
Dunkerdoodles (5) - Cabd, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Whiskers
Whiskers (5) - Flubbernugget, Nero Cain, Alisae, beeboy, Quick

Quick (1) - AxleGreaser
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles
Rhah (1) - HolySpiritTurtle

Not voting (5) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).


Shiro is V/LA until October 17.
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 1221, Alisae wrote:Simple answer: Once Cabd shoots he's confirmed town period end of story
No, he's not.

If he flips or Mod confirms him IC, THEN he is confirmed.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:11 pm

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Whiskers, I know where my vote is. I can't tell if being unable to track the rest of the votes on you comes from nefarious motivations or the pace of the game. I'm assuming the latter.

You reply to very much but say very little, and you don't follow up your reads very well with your accusations.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:12 pm

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It's far more likely that the suspicious ones are those who are leaving room open to scumread Cabd because of x.
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:12 pm

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lol stole your page top
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:12 pm

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Usually vig is explicitly normal for town only.
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:13 pm

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In post 1225, gerryoat wrote:ok so cabd is claiming vig? i'm confused af.
Day one oneshot dayvig.

You tell me a better protown use than the one I came up with and I'll keep it in mind next time i so happen to draw this crazy role.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:13 pm

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In post 1223, Cabd wrote:
In post 1216, Quick wrote:
In post 1205, Cabd wrote:Partially correct. Day 1 dayvig. I can't think of any better use than giving town two lynched day one to work off of.
Why can't this role come from Scum tho? You said you would be confirmed. That is not confirmed.
Then vote me. Not my fault you assume shit. The role itself is confirmable by me shooting. If you think the normal review group let a scum oneshot dayvig into a large normal than "hitoshrug:
I'm not even Scum reading you M8. Why would I vote you if I don't have any idea one way or another if your role comes from Scum or not? I am not going to clear you just because you can kill someone.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:14 pm

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But vig is explicitly normal for town only
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:14 pm

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In post 1205, Cabd wrote:Partially correct. Day 1 dayvig. I can't think of any better use than giving town two lynched day one to work off of.
gerry, after reading this post what could you have been that confused about?
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:15 pm

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In post 1229, Rhah wrote:It's far more likely that the suspicious ones are those who are leaving room open to scumread Cabd because of x.
And what makes you say this? I am a skeptical person by nature. For you to say that because of an inborn trait I have in my personality means I am Scum is flawed.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:15 pm

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I still think we can talk reads on cabd tomorrow.

He also said his role is non normal...but now people are saying it's actually normal but only for town?
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:15 pm

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In post 1234, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:But vig is explicitly normal for town only
It can go to the SK but Cabd isn't an SK so...
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:15 pm

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In post 1234, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:But vig is explicitly normal for town only
Day vig is not as far as I know.

Meants to ask:

Can the non-normal role in a normal game be a made up role?
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:16 pm

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ok then use the vig, i would have just shot my SR day 1 ages ago lol
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:16 pm

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According to the wiki, "Day" modifier is non-normal.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:16 pm

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I mean, TBF, saying that you are one shot=//=that you are. I could envision a day sk coming out the gates and going "oh I'll be confirmed once I shoot" "I'm just one shot, no way am I lying."

1x dayvig doesn't seem non-normal. Why did you claim you had a non-normal role?

Why did you choose to not do anything for most of the day?
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:17 pm

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In post 1239, Quick wrote:
In post 1234, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:But vig is explicitly normal for town only
Day vig is not as far as I know.

Meants to ask:

Can the non-normal role in a normal game be a made up role?
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Any new roles without a wiki page must flip with their Role PM (redactions permitted). A Rolecop investigation of the same role should be similar, without alignment.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:17 pm

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Dayvig is just a variant of a vig
And a vig is blacklisted for mafia
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:17 pm

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In post 1206, Rhah wrote:
Whiskers wrote:but self-preservation is not alignment-indicative, so.
Were you presenting that statement as absolutely true in all circumstances?
No.

It isn't alignment indicative to want to stay alive. We each know our own roles, as such any lynch is better than ourselves.
Yes, yes, there are cases where that is not true, like when there is a confirmed townie, or (even in my case) where one's own flip will reveal a lot of information to town. Nevertheless, I don't feel insecure about the fact that I might not want to be lynched Day 1.

Tbh I wrote "self-preservation instinct" but that didn't sound right. I also tried "preservation instinct" which didn't mean the right thing. When I settled on "self-preservation," I lost the nuance about it being instinctual. Now, a few minutes later, I realize "Survival Instinct" was the phrase I should have gone for.
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this is a slip.
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it reads to me like a slip.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:18 pm

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In post 1241, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:According to the wiki, "Day" modifier is non-normal.
ok.

lets lynch whiskers
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:18 pm

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Whiskers that is not a slip that is not ever a slip you are just a scumfuck and STOP BEING A PACIFIST AND PUSH ME TO MY LYNCH ALREADY
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:19 pm

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In post 1245, Whiskers wrote:it reads to me like a slip.
>_>
That is so lame its not even funny.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:20 pm

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In post 1248, Quick wrote:
In post 1245, Whiskers wrote:it reads to me like a slip.
>_>
That is so lame its not even funny.
ITS BECAUSE HES SCUM THAT DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO PUSH MY LYNCH
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