Newbie 1828: Utopia! - Game Over!

[acidphoenix]

yes

is me oops

(also, no)

[Porkens]

Fine.

vote: darren

[Aristophanes]

Fine.

vote: darren

Whooooo!

Unannounced L-1!

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-3

Thomas Cole, Dreams of Arcadia

In the 1580s, Sir Philip Sidney wrote a collection of poems called New

Arcadia.

This was an expansion of the story set-to-poems that he wrote in his 20s for the entertainment of his sister, the Countess of Pembroke. His vision of Utopia was a highly idealized pastoral one juxtaposed with stories of jousts, political treachery, kidnappings, battles, and rapes. As published, the narrative follows the Greek model: stories are nested within each other, and different storylines are intertwined. The work was published after his death in 1590.

darrenwoodward10

(3): Nauci, UnaBombaH, Porkens

Porkens

(1): acidphoenix

Not Voting

(3): northsidegal, darrenwoodward10, Aristophanes

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: November 3, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2017-11-02 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[northsidegal]

Fine.

vote: darren

Whooooo!

Unannounced L-1!

oh yeah! i noticed the vote and i was going to make a comment about l-2 and how it was too early for a lynch, but i figured l-2 didn't mean much. forgot we're at 4 for majority lynch today.

so yeah, it's way too early for a lynch, and i probably scumread porkens more for that l-1. darren needs to make his wallpost, the noodle slot needs to say more and someone actually needs to come up with some better reasons to vote darren than just poe.

[Porkens]

Fine.

vote: darren

Whooooo!

Unannounced L-1!

Don’t make me draw you.

[Porkens]

Guys, nobody plays with these strats out there. You have to get more creative. You should be trying to fakeclaim cop and bp and all sorts of stuff. Town isn’t your friend. That’s where the scum are.

[Porkens]

Was there a rest of the strat btw?

[Porkens]

I mean once we out that there is a tracker? Who gets hit night 1?
What’s the next step after that?

[northsidegal]

the bulletproof strat only advances to the next stage if there isn't a bulletproof claim. besides, what would make you think that there's a "rest of the strategy" now that the tracker is

dead

?

[Aristophanes]

The rest of the strat, to my knowledge, is that I am now basically a setup confirmed Townie with a guaranteed Vest! I am extremely likely to make it to lylo now, which increases our chances at a win (should we get there) greatly!

And if I am to be killed before that it will take scum 3 phases to do it, which is a great amount of time to find them!

[Porkens]

Get to it

[Porkens]

Please

[Porkens]

unvote

I’m not scum, I am not convinced Darren is, either.

[Porkens]

the bulletproof strat only advances to the next stage if there isn't a bulletproof claim. besides, what would make you think that there's a "rest of the strategy" now that the tracker is

dead

?

I was implying that the scum will love to take a shot at a tracker rather than risk hitting bp. Scum should ask for that every game.

That’s a scum strat.

[Porkens]

Oh, yeah, remind me what happens if the bp doesn’t out?

[acidphoenix]

tracker claims and doc protects them

[northsidegal]

i'm fairly certain that empirically the buletproof strategy raises town winrates. besides, i don't think what you're saying makes sense. if someone claims bulletproof then scum know if there's a jk or a tracker based on if there's a roleblocker or not, but it doesn't give them any huge extra indication of who the tracker is, it's just one person that they know not to nightkill, and that comes at the cost to them of a confirmed townie. getting a conftown in exchange for reducing the pool of potential prs by one person sounds like a pretty good strategy to me.

if bp doesn't claim then we move to tracker claims, as well as eliminating a relatively safe fakeclaim for scum.

pedit, acid's got it.

[northsidegal]

like, i could be wrong but i'm almost entirely certain that anyone who suggests that the bulletproof strategy is antitown doesn't entirely understand it (or has questionable motivations!).

[Nauci]

I'm broken out in a series of shoe sizes hives right now so I'm passing out on Benadryl but if I manage to stay awake long enough I'm ISOing Darren.

Also I'm suspicious of noodle-slot because Una hopped on the Darren wagon without a second thought.

VOTE: UnaBombaH until we see posting from either of them.

[Nauci]

Nope I'm putting it right back where it belongs.

VOTE: darrenwoodward10

He's done a bit of defending Gorny, a bunch of scumfishing for PR earlier on, and then wagged his FOS at anyone but Gorny. Except a lot of his scum reads are based on how defensive someone gets and considering how Gorny was almost comically defensive it makes no sense for him to not finger Gorny. Also 1/3 of his posts were trying to make a case on Noodle slot for not posting, which is a pretty classic way to look like scum hunting and not actually do anything to offend an active player or get challenged.

I won't give it a 100% shot but I'm putting the odds at least in the 70s.

CHOO CHOOOOO

[Porkens]

Tempting.

[Porkens]

Can you show me the relevant data?

[Nauci]

Can you show me the relevant data?

With my last 2 minutes of consciousness on mobile, I will make an attempt.

I can't deal with multi quoting on this forum on mobile without wanting to set my phone on fire though so incoming series of spam posts.

[Nauci]

I've had a look at Gorny's ISO, can you refer to a post that you find excessively defensive?

So you're going to hide away and not defend yourself? That doesn't benefit you at all.

VOTE: gorny

noodle you should at least have something

I'm conflicted on whether to vote for Noodle or Acid. At this point I'm thinking Acid mostly because of the points have been made by Gorny. I just wanted to add my own reason, if you look in the quote, the way Acid is talking to Noodle in a very weird way makes me think he's trying to talk to his scum partner. I know it's early in the game and it's probably not a good idea to be making partners. But out of all of Acid's posts, this one definitely stands out. I also find it weird how we votes for Gorny but then goes on a weird ramble against Acid, it kinda looks like his way of saying "psst, Noodle, vote for this guy". Also convenient how Noodle left this bit out whilst quoting top.
VOTE: Acidphoenix

What points did Gary make that stood out to you?

What do you think acid is talking to his scum partner about?

I agree with the Gordy/acid thing, but maybe not on the messaging. Could be though.

I really don't understand the post edit at all.

1) Mostly the ones where Acid was quick to defend himself ("please don't lynch me" or something like that)
2) Probably to vote for Gorny, because directly after she voted for Gorny is when I think she was trying to communicate to Noodle.

A few posts tangentially defending Gorny.

I couldn't find a single post where he goes after Gorny, who I'd been reading as scum the entire game.