curiouskarmadog wrote:Nemesis, deadlines can be retracted..deadlines force choices and BWs, much can be learned from this,
Yes, some can... Although a mod won't always jump through hoops for you and set/retract deadlines when it is good for you.
As for the forcing of choices and bandwagons... Anyone can join a wagon giving the excuse that a lynch is better than no lynch. Somehow people stop being able to be held accountable.
right now, all we have are scraps of scumminess that people jump on until someone else does something slightly scummy. We are going to keep going around in circles until something really sticks out. I think a deadline will do just that. Force people to start scum hunting and stop lurking (or at least answer for their lurking)...force scum to act, hopefully they will trip up in the process.
Scum hunting with a deadline usually ends up at voting for whoever has the most votes. Lurkers may still lurk, especially now there isn't time to pressure them into talking.
If conversation is heated, I would expect that Mod to delay the deadline, espeically in a game this size..deadlines are not bad.
Deadlines themselves give scum way more power to lynch who they want if it is a half majority deadline, a full majority deadline gives a higher chance of a no lynch. Neither of these are particularly good for the town.
The discussion that deadlines create is usually hasty and panic induced, there is no guarantee that anything good will come of it and there's plenty of potential for bad things to happen because of them. Deadlines are bad...
Nemesis, what had the conversation dwiddled to before I asked for a deadline? Answer me that, then tell me why asking for a deadline was anti-town again? Look how much conversation has spun off that alone.
The conversation hasn't moved on because of the deadline yet. All we have is me accusing you and if you are town and you were doing something intended to help the town, then you have no positives to take from this yet. I can't see anything else the deadline has done that might make up for all the bad things it could do. We're pretty much still going round in circles, we still pretty much have the same lynch candidates.
If I was trying to hide the fact I wanted the deadline, why did I say it in game, versus just PMing the mod for one?
I don't think I said you were trying to hide it... But this is a null-point anyway, because you could see this as a powerful pro-town move and openly did it to look more pro-town. Else you might have not realized some of the people not wanting a deadline would rather lynch you for your suggestion than lynch someone who has been in the spotlight all game. There are plenty of reasons why you might have posted it in thread... But as I say, it's a null-point full of WIFOM and intention guessing.
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