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Post Post #3075 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:57 pm

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In post 3041, X Luxord wrote:I'm going to somewhat respect that previousXig was right about Marluxia and my gut somewhat agrees there so I'm just gonna go with it.
For what it's worth I do echo this.
In post 3041, X Luxord wrote:I don't think it's impossible that Roxas is willing to try to take the trade of a scummate and conftown for a lynch on a town watcher that could completely fuck up what they want to do from here on out.
I want to say I wouldn't do it as scum, but honestly. I can't see any realm where I as scum I wouldn't do exactly what I did because yeah. It's exactly what I would do as scum. I mean, I know I'm not scum, but I realize that it's stuff like this which means I might need to be one of the mislynches we have to spare. (But again, if so, I want to have stronger locktown reads than I have right now.)
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Post Post #3076 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:59 pm

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In post 3048, X Luxord wrote:I wish you'd targeted Roxas like I'd asked.
I mean.
I've only been asking to be targeted the whole game.
So.

Won't see any argument from me!
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Post Post #3077 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 3049, VI Zexion wrote:this is our game to lose so if our lynchpool is (me, axel, and marluxia) we should be good
This if true would in fact be us being good. However, you're quite correct to add:
In post 3050, VI Zexion wrote:and roxas, almost forgot
...Me to the list, which introduces a problem.

If we assume that Luxord, Saix, and Xaldin are all town and never-lynching...
...Then, well. We've got three clears. Two die via nightkill. Leaving us with a lylo with one "conf"town alive, and an effective 50/50 shot at finding scum. I mean. That's not
horrible
odds. But it's by far not the best odds. There needs to be a fourth clear. Obviously, each of the four names within consider themselves to be said clear, and presumably all of them hold the same three clears on the three names outside the four. But as that's a subjective measure rather than an objective measure, it's not good enough to win in of itself.

It gives us decent odds. 1/4 chance today, if failing, 1/3 chance tomorrow, if failing, 1/2 chance in 3p lylo. Any success, instant game win.
But I don't like leaving things to chance. I want to guarantee the win. So what I want to do is to get one of the four names within cleared. Thereby guaranteeing that no matter what, we win. (Also, to absolutely locktown Xig/Lux/Saix. They're
effectively
locktown right now, but I want ABSOLUTELY locktown, so as to remove any and all shadows of doubt.)
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Post Post #3078 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 3052, X Luxord wrote:Logic being that Vexen's role was literally also a rolecop variant and with Xaldin's role, a scumteam with all three of your roles would be overkill.
I'm...actually thinking it could be the opposite?

Having all three scum roles be investigatives of some sort kinda sorta has a weird way of being something making ~sense~ if that makes sense. Basically, it kinda just...has a certain kind of aesthetically pleasing feeling to it, a beauty in design as it were. There's a particular word I'm looking for which describes it that I can't quite find (it's on the tip of my tongue, I keep thinking it starts with s but I'm not sure, it's not synchronization and not synergy but something else), but it kinda is something I can see as possible.

I need to think about it more though.
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Post Post #3079 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 3070, X Luxord wrote:"I don't fakeclaim unless it's masons".
:roll:
Claiming masons has NEVER been a fakeclaim. EVER. For it to be a fakeclaim requires to not have a role with communication abilities and I would never tell that lie. It's an
exaggeration
. I will shamelessly exaggerate my role. That's smart townplay: make yourself seem stronger than you actually are, such that scum nightkill you. But I will never fucking lie.
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Post Post #3080 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:19 pm

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In post 3071, X Luxord wrote:You could do me a favor and vote Axel instead of agonizing over your claiming history when it doesn't matter at all.
Sorry, but I'm not going to bank the game on Axel being scum especially if your natural inclination upon an Axel townflip would be to speed/power-lynch me. I will vote only when I am comfortable.

Axel is
probably
the last scum. My vote is
probably
going onto Axel today. But I am in no hurry to rush the day and neither should you. We have this game in the fucking bag. The best way to fuck that up is to rush things through rather than taking the time to think them through.
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Post Post #3081 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:29 pm

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me saix and xig are my locktowns atm
could add luxord to that pile
i guess axel is the best lynch then

shit i'm bad
forgot about this alt thing
i'm so embarrassed right now
ughhh
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Post Post #3082 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:30 pm

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sorry guyssss
ugh im so bad
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Post Post #3083 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:42 pm

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If it's any consolation that means nothing to me
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Post Post #3084 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:10 pm

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ik it doesn't really matter but still
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Post Post #3085 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:38 am

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You fine.
Other people have done it. Easy mistake to make.

You can redeem yourself by helping me murderkill scumAxel and avenge the death of our glorious semi-apathetic leader Xemnas the great and powerful.
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Post Post #3086 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:24 am

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In post 3049, VI Zexion wrote:right,
my slot is a neighborizer rolecop. i neighborize someone and rolecop them
i have results on axel and marluxia

this is our game to lose so if our lynchpool is (me, axel, and marluxia) we should be good
I would've really appreciated a lie here so you could prove I'm town through other means.
In post 3052, X Luxord wrote:I still think Marluxia is probably town.
When you lynch me (it's not an IF anymore), he goes back on your suspect pile. Fair?
In post 3080, XIII Roxas wrote:Axel is probably the last scum. My vote is probably going onto Axel today.
After everything we've been through? :(
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Post Post #3087 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:24 am

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Not really any content here so I'm not going to try and defend myself! Woo!
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Post Post #3088 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:44 am

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Vote Count 4.1


Roxas [1] - Saix
Axel [2] - Luxord, Marluxia

Not Voting: Roxas, Axel, Xigbar, Zexion

4 to lynch
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Post Post #3089 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:00 am

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Thought about it a little, and zex should be the one to claim the result. The only scenario where someone gets away with a lie is if zex is scum and doesn't really have the info -- there's no danger of marluxia scum being untruthful because he'd just die.
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Post Post #3090 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:43 pm

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i came up with a solution
marluxia claims the role abilites but not the name.
after i say the role name and we see if it makes sense.
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Post Post #3091 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:53 pm

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I guess that's fine though I don't see why it matters
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Post Post #3092 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:32 am

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FWIW, I targeted Zexion last night. Someone investigated him. Not super helpful, I know, but it's what I have.
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Post Post #3093 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:34 am

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Wait what? You can target people?
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Post Post #3094 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:13 am

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Voyeur. I can only discern the type of action performed on them, no detailed info about what it was or who did it. I don't know how helpful this is in our current situation but I think it's time to put the cards on the table as it were.
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Post Post #3095 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:15 am

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Oh it must have been Xaldin then?
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Post Post #3096 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:32 am

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That's what I'm thinking, which is why the info is of limited usefulness lol
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Post Post #3097 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:07 am

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What was the n2 result
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Post Post #3098 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:13 am

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N2 I didn't target anyone because of when I subbed in and because I suck. N1 old Xig targeted Xaldin and no actions were performed on him that night.
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Post Post #3099 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:18 am

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