Beneath The Mask [Endgame]

[RationalNumbers]

I has flu. Will check tomorrow after work. I got through some of this and started typing thoughts out to Drixx on Slack and then couldn't even follow my own notes.

~~Math

[davesaz]

Woopsy

Explain pls.

Woospy!!!!!!


Dave spit out your results btw

No calling cards were sent. I'm leaning toward keeping the innos quiet so they don't get lined up as scum kills.

What's your read on Creature? I don't remember.

[Purple Nurple]

If the inno is outside my town pile I would personally like to know it because it would help my reads

otherwise, idrc. i would probably say them but i see the merit in not.

[WhemeStar]

Oh I'd rather not reveal who i targeted

[Brian Skies]

Kise

i really didn't liked this and push on PP as counter and i was thinking "if Kise flips red, this'll too", when i changed my vote

VOTE: Brian

Intesresting, would do Chikoritas first though. I would even do Penguin over Brian I think

you do you, i do who i think is scum and i can back up my read

You mean when I asked why people were scumreading Kise and it took me 15 pages to get anything resembling a case on him, and it wasn't even by someone that was on the wagon?

[Ellibereth]

HEY GUYUS LET ME CHECK SOMETHING

woohoo updates

Scum are {Mulch, Kise, PenguinPower} + some subset of:

Yume
Chesskid3
Smocaine
Lil Uzi Vert
ChikoritasInAction

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE ONLY TWO PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE VOTING RIGHT NOW MHM

[Ellibereth]

leon this is a good fucking partnership if you feel like writing a blurb about one of them again.

[chesskid3]

I'm for outing the innos because if scum have to shoot scumbutts to hit conftown isn't that really doing us all a favor?

[Ellibereth]

SOMEONE FORCED ME TO TARGET EITHER A PARTICULAR PERSON OR NOONE AT ALL WITH MY ABILITY LAST NIGHT LOL

VOTE: MULCH

Also
I'm reiterating this

please discuss

[davesaz]

If the inno is outside my town pile I would personally like to know it because it would help my reads

Outside your town pile.

[Brian Skies]

I don't understand what Mulch has to do with your night action, and sounds mostly like a you problem.

I feel less strongly about Mulch town as I did yesterday, and his 1-day grace period to use his role is over. His interactions surrounding the Kise wagon at EOD weren't good. I just feel stronger about PP and Smocaine right now (particularly the latter if you think there's traitorscum in this game).

[Ellibereth]

It's fine

I'm fine with the penguin wagon since it's on scum too.

But Mulch is MY personal justice wagon.

And also

who did I soft that I would target yesterday hmmmm
HMMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

and why did I get forced to go to someone who could potentially have a dangerous role
hmmmm
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Brian Skies]

I had no idea you softed anything. I'll probably find it once I finish this reread.

[davesaz]

SOMEONE FORCED ME TO TARGET EITHER A PARTICULAR PERSON OR NOONE AT ALL WITH MY ABILITY LAST NIGHT LOL

VOTE: MULCH

Also
I'm reiterating this

please discuss

Clarifying question -- you were told by Mod that you must either target player x or not use your ability?

Note to Cryer: Assuming the answer from Ellibereth is yes, this means your targeting can be manipulated. We can still use the information just have to be aware it's not 100%.

[Ellibereth]

the mod told me right after night started

that I had to target [NAME WHICH I KINDA GAVE AWAY] and if I didn't I would be roleblocked.

[chesskid3]

the mod told me right after night started

that I had to target [NAME WHICH I KINDA GAVE AWAY] and if I didn't I would be roleblocked.

Fuck me I just read my role PM and I want to be lynched now.
Like just seriously I don't see any way I could ever have use for the town. I absolutely do NOT want the scum to nightkill me...which is the whole fucking point normally of having the negative utility I do. For that matter though, protective roles, stay the fuck off of me. If the scum do nightkill me (I absolutely don't want them to), the LAST thing you want to do is to stop it.

It's just about the worst role I've ever received and I am mad now.

(Yes I absolutely will be voting myself when pregame ends. Because dead serious.

Protectives should not target me. I am a negative utility. And we don't want scum to nightkill me, either.

Which leaves...lynching. Alisae couldn't have fucked me over harder.)

hmm

[Ramcius]

Kise

i really didn't liked this and push on PP as counter and i was thinking "if Kise flips red, this'll too", when i changed my vote

VOTE: Brian

Intesresting, would do Chikoritas first though. I would even do Penguin over Brian I think

you do you, i do who i think is scum and i can back up my read

You mean when I asked why people were scumreading Kise and it took me 15 pages to get anything resembling a case on him, and it wasn't even by someone that was on the wagon?

how about fact that you never stated why Kise is town? And your attempt again to push PP is interesting - that was counter wagon at EoD to Kise - probably strongest and most important conspiracy member. I liked you naked vote on Kise and next post going back to PP without saying anything

[Purple Nurple]

If the inno is outside my town pile I would personally like to know it because it would help my reads

Outside your town pile.

I mean I would say tell it but it's up to you obviously

on one hand having a "clear" (as in, there's probably one godfather aka pt fake but it's clear enough for this stage of the game) is very useful for sorting purposes, especially if it is a stronger player. like, for example, if reck became an ic that would help my reads immensely.

then the flip side is that there also isn't toooo much of a benefit since you can't actually die anyways so your inno is never getting lynched


maybe release it halfway through the day so you can see how others interact with it?

[Brian Skies]

Kise

i really didn't liked this and push on PP as counter and i was thinking "if Kise flips red, this'll too", when i changed my vote

VOTE: Brian

Intesresting, would do Chikoritas first though. I would even do Penguin over Brian I think

you do you, i do who i think is scum and i can back up my read

You mean when I asked why people were scumreading Kise and it took me 15 pages to get anything resembling a case on him, and it wasn't even by someone that was on the wagon?

how about fact that you never stated why Kise is town? And your attempt again to push PP is interesting - that was counter wagon at EoD to Kise - probably strongest and most important conspiracy member. I liked you naked vote on Kise and next post going back to PP without saying anything

I never stated why I thought Kise was town because I wasn't confident in the read and wanted people to help me in that regard. I spent the majority of EOD engaging Ellibereth, who was one of the strongest advocates of the wagon, and he not only refused to give me his reasons (which I asked him for), but he asked Leon to make the case for him.

I voted PP because while I thought the case was okay, it was written in a way that didn't seem like the person who wrote it was even that convinced by it. The alternative wagon was very obviously going to be Reck, who I wasn't okay with being lynched or even run up, so I just sheeped onto the Kise wagon (who I wasn't even that confident about even after the case and Mulch's sudden defense there made me very uncomfortable about it all).

[Ellibereth]

for example, if reck became an ic that would help my reads immensely.

purple i'm going to teach you one of my secret tricks
peretend reck is an IC

WHOA
BOOM

[Purple Nurple]

It's fine

I'm fine with the penguin wagon since it's on scum too.

But Mulch is MY personal justice wagon.

And also

who did I soft that I would target yesterday hmmmm
HMMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

and why did I get forced to go to someone who could potentially have a dangerous role
hmmmm
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

if you did target us you aren't going to die, dw. for obvious reasons not gonna go more into what might/could/did happen if anything does happen when someone targets us.

hhhhey uh q tho

that's a weird ass role. redirector is one thing, but like, optional use and informed you were redirected? ~spoopy~

[Purple Nurple]

for example, if reck became an ic that would help my reads immensely.

purple i'm going to teach you one of my secret tricks
peretend reck is an IC

WHOA
BOOM

I can pretend the whole game is ics and we can do happy ever

[Purple Nurple]

someone's gonna have to tell me why smocaine is scum btw cause idgi

[Ellibereth]

why you have him as town

[Purple Nurple]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 29 Smocaine ----------- 8 ( WhemeStar, Chesskid3, Brian Skies, Maki and Kaito, Ramicus, davesaz, Varsoon, xRECKONERx ) L- 4 Elibereth ---------- 3 ( Kise, Mulch, RationalNumbers ) L- 9 ChikoritasInAction - 2 ( Smocaine, Chara ) L- 11 Kise --------------- 2 ( Alchemist21, Elibereth ) L- 10 Maki and Kaito ----- 1 ( Creature ) L- 11 Purple Nurple ------ 1 ( Lil Uzi Vert ) L- 11 Ramicus ------------ 1 ( ChikoritasInAction ) L- 11 Brian Skies -------- 1 ( Leonshade ) L- 11 Yume --------------- 1 ( Purple Nurple ) L- 11 Not Voting --------- 2 ( PenguinPower, Yume ) With 22 alive, it takes 12 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-24 19:13:48)

FOS COUNT 1 . 29 Ramicus ------------ 3 ( Purple Nurple, RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) xRECKONERx --------- 3 ( Purple Nurple, RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Chesskid3 ---------- 3 ( Not Chara, RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) RationalNumbers ---- 3 ( Purple Nurple, Leonshade, Smocaine ) Smocaine ----------- 3 ( Purple Nurple, Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Ellibereth --------- 3 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Purple Nurple ------ 3 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, ChikoritasInAction ) Maki and Kaito ----- 2 ( Purple Nurple, Smocaine ) Chara -------------- 2 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Varsoon ------------ 2 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine ) Alchemist21 -------- 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) ChikoritasInAction - 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Varsoon ------------ 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) Yume --------------- 2 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies ) WhemeStar ---------- 2 ( Smocaine, Davesaz ) Davesaz ------------ 1 ( Smocaine ) Creature ----------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Kise --------------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Brian Skies -------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Lil Uzi Vert ------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Mulch -------------- 1 ( Smocaine ) PenguinPower ------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Not FoS'ing -------- 15 ( Alchemist21, Chesskid3, Creature, Ellibereth, Kise, Lil Uzi Vert, Maki and Kaito, Mulch, PenguinPower, Ramcius, Varsoon, WhemeStar, xRECKONERx, Yume ) With 22 alive, it takes 12 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-24 19:13:48)

VOTE COUNT 1 . 36 Kise --------------- 11 ( Alchemist21, Elibereth, Chara, Brian Skies, Varsoon, ChikoritasInAction, Ramicus, xRECKONERx, davesaz, Leonshade, Chesskid3 ) Lynch xRECKONERx --------- 2 ( Purple Nurple, RationalNumbers ) L- 10 Smocaine ----------- 2 ( WhemeStar, PenguinPower ) L- 10 PenguinPower ------- 2 ( Maki and Kaito, Mulch ) L- 10 Elibereth ---------- 1 ( Kise ) L- 11 Maki and Kaito ----- 1 ( Creature ) L- 11 Not Voting --------- 3 ( Yume, Lil Uzi Vert, Smocaine ) With 22 alive, it takes 12 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-24 19:13:48)

FOS COUNT 1 . 36 xRECKONERx --------- 4 ( Purple Nurple, RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Mulch ) Chesskid3 ---------- 4 ( Not Chara, RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Mulch ) RationalNumbers ---- 4 ( Purple Nurple, Leonshade, Smocaine, Mulch ) Ellibereth --------- 4 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Brian Skies, Mulch ) Purple Nurple ------ 4 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, ChikoritasInAction, Mulch ) Smocaine ----------- 3 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies, Mulch ) Ramicus ------------ 3 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Mulch ) Maki and Kaito ----- 3 ( Purple Nurple, Smocaine, Mulch ) Chara -------------- 3 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Mulch ) Varsoon ------------ 3 ( RationalNumbers, Smocaine, Mulch ) Alchemist21 -------- 3 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies, Mulch ) ChikoritasInAction - 3 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies, Mulch ) Varsoon ------------ 3 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies, Mulch ) Yume --------------- 3 ( Smocaine, Brian Skies, Mulch ) WhemeStar ---------- 3 ( Smocaine, Davesaz, Mulch ) Kise --------------- 3 ( Smocaine, Mulch, Chesskid3 ) Davesaz ------------ 2 ( Smocaine, Mulch ) Creature ----------- 2 ( Smocaine, Mulch ) Brian Skies -------- 2 ( Smocaine, Mulch ) Lil Uzi Vert ------- 2 ( Smocaine, Mulch ) PenguinPower ------- 2 ( Smocaine, Mulch ) Mulch -------------- 1 ( Smocaine ) Not FoS'ing -------- 14 ( Alchemist21, Chesskid3, Creature, Ellibereth, Kise, Lil Uzi Vert, Maki and Kaito, PenguinPower, Ramcius, Varsoon, WhemeStar, xRECKONERx, Yume ) With 22 alive, it takes 12 to Lynch Deadline is in (expired on 2017-10-24 19:13:48)

chess, Brian, varsoon, reck, dave, ram were all on both wagons at their biggest points. thats 75% of the same people. ew.

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