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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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Gonna steal this pagetop while I can.
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Welcome DiamondSentinel!
All this talk of bussing before any scum flips is way premature. All this talk of claiming is also premature. I've also been trying to follow quote links just now and a whole bunch of them are broken so I'm guessing a whole bunch of things have been deleted.
Regarding your readslist.In post 1554, DiamondSentinel wrote:Readlist:
Town - Camn, Stalfos
Null!Town - Creature (unfortunately now dead)
Null - Ghostlin (note that Nos is in null!scum. The slot changed a bit), Mario (he's done butt fuck nothing with his content and I hate it)
Null!Scum - Nos, Kise, Hebichan (who was replaced and died immediately, which is off, but whatever)
Scum - Theta, Math, Radiant, Grapes, yume-slot (Looks to be Maestro now)
I'm interested in hearing you explain more about your Kise read. You found him noteworthy enough to put him in the list, so I assume you had some explanation for that. There were some other things in what you said that I wanted to ask you about, but I'm pretty bloody shattered right now so they'll have to wait for tomorrow when I can think straight.
MM4 was getting hit by deletes and edits iirc and I didn't really consider her content "nothing". Even so, why would you put her as null for that? If it was nothing, I'd expect her to not be on the list. If it was nothing enough to be noteworthy, I'd expect it to be because you considered it scummy. In comparison, you haven't listed Aronis, for example.
Also I suppose this is for my own personal comfort because I've got a low tolerance for this kind of thing, but would you be able to stop badmouthing players and their skill, particularly those who aren't in the game and can't call you out on it? You claim to want people to stop being confrontational but you're really not helping in that regard. It does nothing to help town to slag off players like hebi, Creature and Mulch. It just increases the unpleasantness of the game.
This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.In post 1638, Ghostlin wrote:Grapes are delicious. Working on reads.
PEdit:
...In post 1681, mastina wrote:Gonna steal this pagetop while I can.
That's not a pagetop. Deletes incoming, I guess.
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In post 1652, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Mod: Are we allowed to take pictures of written things and post them in here instead of typing our content?<<< I'm gonna make the judgement call of no. >>>-
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I don't know what you're talking about. That's totally a pagetop, fair and square.In post 1676, Stalfos wrote:
...In post 1675, mastina wrote:Gonna steal this pagetop while I can.
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Excuse you? I have "shitposted" only either once or twice (464 was a joke, 390 was kinda made in a shitposty way but also was meant to say something ingame.) You don't get to ignore and discredit a player because they debatedly shitposted twice.In post 1673, DiamondSentinel wrote: I'm not voting Mario. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Mario is an idiot and a shitposter, but those are NAI for anyone. I can't read these type of people for shit (See: Cyberpunk Mafia with Dwlee)-
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do you think every player should have the exact same number of scumreads as there are scum?In post 1627, grapes wrote:
This many scumreads doesn't make a lick of sense; you realize it's confirmed 4 scum?In post 1554, DiamondSentinel wrote:Anyways, without further ado.
Readlist:
Town - Camn, Stalfos
Null!Town - Creature (unfortunately now dead)
Null - Ghostlin (note that Nos is in null!scum. The slot changed a bit), Mario (he's done butt fuck nothing with his content and I hate it)
Null!Scum - Nos, Kise, Hebichan (who was replaced and died immediately, which is off, but whatever)
Scum - Theta, Math, Radiant, Grapes, yume-slot (Looks to be Maestro now)-
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Agree. MM4 has been contributing considerably more than many other players.
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So Prism is going to be fairly absent for the foreseeable future so it's mostly going to be me from now on.
But more thoughts regarding D1 before I go to sleep:
While we were sure on Mulchscum from the way he was acting, especially after the self-hammer, it should have been up to us to realise he was town. That also makes two games in a row that Priz has mislynched him and they are not going to blame him for that.
(I mean,Ibelieve it's not all us but sharing blame is really not Prism's modus operandi and I'm speaking for both of us here)
Some scumreads as of end of Day:
Aronis's actions end of Day are confused. It looks like he was claiming to sheep Theta because he townread her earlier, but at that point she hadn't posted in like two weeks. Then his comments to Math in 1498 and 1521 offering to lynch Titus come across odd to me because he never expressed a read on Math and I couldn't find much on Moonlight either, so he didn't seem to be sheeping a townread or lynching a scumread. Then he didn't vote anyone and instead parked on mastina. I get that he's being silly but he also doesn't seem to have any kind of town curiosity or interest in who gets lynched. Scumread has not waned here.
Looking at the last minute additions to the Mulch wagon, Smocaine stands out to me. He seemed pretty keen on a Mulch lynch from early on, encouraged it, then switched to Theta even as he called her the "designated policy lynch" and the wagon "halfassed", before returning to Mulch. Disparaging his own vote while encouraging another wagon suggests a kind of dissonance that I'd expect from scum more than town.
And another point of interest that isn't so much a scumread as something I'd like to bring up for discussion is that Creature was scumreading MM4, but all of his posts connected to that were deleted even while he was making them, then he was killed overnight. I don't know if he was the scum kill but it's worth noting that he's not around to advocate for that read anymore. I'd rather that thread didn't get lost.
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I will agree that DiamondSentinel having a reason for his "townslip" makes it seem a lot less ... slippy.
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Still happily townreading Math, Stalfos, Ghostlin. I'm still trying to think about how I feel about RM but I'm not ready to abandon my early townread."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
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Aronis Just here for the Pagetop!
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No stopIn post 1662, Smocaine wrote:I think I'm done feeling out this phase. Anyone still down to flip this? VOTE: camn
That's my only townread-
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Such biased judgements smhIn post 1677, mastina wrote:In post 1652, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Mod: Are we allowed to take pictures of written things and post them in here instead of typing our content?<<< I'm gonna make the judgement call of no. >>>-
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I'm curious what townslip you're talking about.In post 1683, massive wrote:I will agree that DiamondSentinel having a reason for his "townslip" makes it seem a lot less ... slippy.
VOTE: DiamondSentinel
Still happily townreading Math, Stalfos, Ghostlin. I'm still trying to think about how I feel about RM but I'm not ready to abandon my early townread.“Why was I chosen?'
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You thought that was a townslip? I'm confused.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9697658#p9697658]post 1687[/url], massive wrote:The one I asked about and you defending by saying you hadn't actually accidentally left anyone out of your catchup.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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I think i've reached the conclusion that mathblade is town.
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Let me get this straight. You're saying that if I had put everyone in the readlist, I'd be scum, because that's what good scum does. But since I didn't, you're saying that I'm careless town. Except that since it wasn't accidental and just a product of how I did my readlist, now I'm scum?
This logic is ridiculous.
(Sorry for the delayed reply. This was a continuation of 1688 but I had to stop midway through writing it)“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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Bitch, I've had you on town from the start of the day. However, I'm often wrong.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698121#p9698121]post 1693[/url], Aronis wrote:
wow trying to plant that ludicrous idea of doubt about me in people's minds?In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698112#p9698112]post 1692[/url], DiamondSentinel wrote:
You're not obvtown. You're town, but there's room for you to be scum.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698101#p9698101]post 1691[/url], Aronis wrote:that's actually pretty good logic.
like i've only given reads on four people this entire game and i'm obvtown
Furthermore, it's nothing to do with your lack of readlists. It's just that you're transparent.
you must really be scum
I hate it when people say "oh, I'm obvtown". Anyone who says that instantly becomes scum in my book, so that's also why I said there's room for you to be scum. I don't see why nobody else understands that, but the reasoning department in this game has hit the shitter.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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Everyone should be put under scrutiny at all times. No matter how obviously town they may seem, until you have a mod confirmation that they are town, everyone can be a scum. So when you start to think you're above all doubt is when you should eat rope.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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That's not a mod confirmation... are you stupid? You have to be by trying to prove yourself with meta-information.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698147#p9698147]post 1696[/url], Aronis wrote:
But like I'm telling you you're not wrong, so you should trust me on that.In post 1694, DiamondSentinel wrote:Bitch, I've had you on town from the start of the day. However, I'm often wrong.
I hate it when people say "oh, I'm obvtown". Anyone who says that instantly becomes scum in my book, so that's also why I said there's room for you to be scum. I don't see why nobody else understands that, but the reasoning department in this game has hit the shitter.
And I do have a mod confirmation?In post 1695, DiamondSentinel wrote:Everyone should be put under scrutiny at all times. No matter how obviously town they may seem, until you have a mod confirmation that they are town, everyone can be a scum. So when you start to think you're above all doubt is when you should eat rope.
Like mastina warned me for trying to get the mod on my side:
Like if I was scum she would already be on my side and I wouldn't need to do that. So the only reasonably answer to this is we aren't on the same side and I'm town.In post 1622, mastina wrote:Aronis has been warned for trying to get the mod on his side.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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(bolding mine)In post 1694, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Bitch,In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698121#p9698121]post 1693[/url], Aronis wrote:
wow trying to plant that ludicrous idea of doubt about me in people's minds?In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698112#p9698112]post 1692[/url], DiamondSentinel wrote:
You're not obvtown. You're town, but there's room for you to be scum.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698101#p9698101]post 1691[/url], Aronis wrote:that's actually pretty good logic.
like i've only given reads on four people this entire game and i'm obvtown
Furthermore, it's nothing to do with your lack of readlists. It's just that you're transparent.
you must really be scumI've had you on town from the start of the day.However, I'm often wrong.
I hate it when people say "oh, I'm obvtown". Anyone who says that instantly becomes scum in my book, so that's also why I said there's room for you to be scum. I don't see why nobody else understands that, but the reasoning department in this game has hit the shitter.
Did you just summon a strong townread on Aronis out of nowhere to suit your argument? Considering 1615, I struggle to see where this came from, and I don't know why it wasn't in your initial list.In post 1554, DiamondSentinel wrote: Readlist:
Town - Camn, Stalfos
Null!Town - Creature (unfortunately now dead)
Null - Ghostlin (note that Nos is in null!scum. The slot changed a bit), Mario (he's done butt fuck nothing with his content and I hate it)
Null!Scum - Nos, Kise, Hebichan (who was replaced and died immediately, which is off, but whatever)
Scum - Theta, Math, Radiant, Grapes, yume-slot (Looks to be Maestro now)
You're giving no reasoning at all and you're positioning yourself as some kind of higher authority instead of genuinely engaging and trying to solve the game.
Like... why townread Aronis? That's a read we directly disagree on, same as the Kise one I asked about.
You claim to townread us, I thought you'd have some interest in discussing things but apparently nah. You seem to be far more interested in defending yourself and discrediting anyone who scumreads you.
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I said grapes are delicious. She deleted nothing.In post 1676, Stalfos wrote:This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.
Off the cuff:
Town: grapes, MB, camn, probably you
Scum (which includes people not playing to a Town wincon): Aronis, smocaine---yes, they could just be shit town, but this is the kind of game where easily scum could be playing delibrately anti-town because LOLS! (No seriously, I'm much less likely to embrace this bullshit this game. And I've got a low tolerance for it anyhow; although smocaine encouraged the mulch lynch and then hopped off to end the day on the mod, which is no lynch and then told us all how Town mulch was seems fucking trying to manufacture holier than thou town cred that it should probably eat rope)
Curious About Because They're The Subject of Discussion: Radiant Moonlight, DS
I'm frankly feeling REALLY off balance right now and having trouble sorting, trying to decide whether or not I just roll with what I have (a lot of gut here) or do a close read of ISOs, mastina be damned.Last edited by mastina on Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:46 pm, edited 1 time in total."You live for the fight when it's all that you've got."--Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer-
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Bleugh, I dunno what I was doing, but I somehow confused him for part of your hydra/your hydra's slot.In post 1698, Stalfos wrote:
(bolding mine)In post 1694, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Bitch,In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698121#p9698121]post 1693[/url], Aronis wrote:
wow trying to plant that ludicrous idea of doubt about me in people's minds?In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698112#p9698112]post 1692[/url], DiamondSentinel wrote:
You're not obvtown. You're town, but there's room for you to be scum.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9698101#p9698101]post 1691[/url], Aronis wrote:that's actually pretty good logic.
like i've only given reads on four people this entire game and i'm obvtown
Furthermore, it's nothing to do with your lack of readlists. It's just that you're transparent.
you must really be scumI've had you on town from the start of the day.However, I'm often wrong.
I hate it when people say "oh, I'm obvtown". Anyone who says that instantly becomes scum in my book, so that's also why I said there's room for you to be scum. I don't see why nobody else understands that, but the reasoning department in this game has hit the shitter.
Did you just summon a strong townread on Aronis out of nowhere to suit your argument? Considering 1615, I struggle to see where this came from, and I don't know why it wasn't in your initial list.In post 1554, DiamondSentinel wrote: Readlist:
Town - Camn, Stalfos
Null!Town - Creature (unfortunately now dead)
Null - Ghostlin (note that Nos is in null!scum. The slot changed a bit), Mario (he's done butt fuck nothing with his content and I hate it)
Null!Scum - Nos, Kise, Hebichan (who was replaced and died immediately, which is off, but whatever)
Scum - Theta, Math, Radiant, Grapes, yume-slot (Looks to be Maestro now)
You're giving no reasoning at all and you're positioning yourself as some kind of higher authority instead of genuinely engaging and trying to solve the game.
Like... why townread Aronis? That's a read we directly disagree on, same as the Kise one I asked about.
You claim to townread us, I thought you'd have some interest in discussing things but apparently nah. You seem to be far more interested in defending yourself and discrediting anyone who scumreads you.
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In that case, let me actually ISO him rather than having my readlist from memory.
Anyways, I will definitely discuss things with you. I discuss whatever seems to be the topic of discussion. When that's me or my reads, then yeah, I defend myself.“Why was I chosen?'
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Spoiler alert, Stalfos: I've no idea what I'm doing and I just fly by the seat of my pants. I'm probably the worst mafia player you'll ever meet, mostly because I don't have the same logical thought processes as you guys and I don't understand them at all. You guys talk about stuff and cross examine it, and all of it's moon logic to me. When you say "X means that they're scum", 95% of the time, I'm thinking "Wait, I took that as a townie thing to do".“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
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I voted Mastina at d2 start, and was voting Mulch at eod. I hopped off the stalled Mulch wagon when deadline was approaching to start the Theta wagon which is when a bunch of people finally got on board with lynching Mulch. Which might be a good indicator that the theta wagon was lit.In post 1699, Ghostlin wrote:
I said grapes are delicious. She deleted nothing.In post 1676, Stalfos wrote:This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.
Off the cuff:
Town: grapes, MB, camn, probably you
Scum (which includes people not playing to a Town wincon): Aronis, smocaine---yes, they could just be shit town, but this is the kind of game where easily scum could be playing delibrately anti-town because LOLS! (No seriously, I'm much less likely to embrace this bullshit this game. And I've got a low tolerance for it anyhow; although smocaine encouraged the mulch lynchand then hopped off to end the day on the mod, which is no lynch and then told us all how Town mulch was seems fucking trying to manufacture holier than thou town credthat it should probably eat rope)
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I'm frankly feeling REALLY off balance right now and having trouble sorting, trying to decide whether or not I just roll with what I have (a lot of gut here) or do a close read of ISOs, mastina be damned.Last edited by mastina on Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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Ha ha I feel the same soooo much of the time.In post 1702, DiamondSentinel wrote: I don't have the same logical thought processes as you guys and I don't understand them at all. You guys talk about stuff and cross examine it, and all of it's moon logic to me.
Maybe you are town after all."if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2
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