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[Joey_]

Nothing changed my mind. I thought Quick was town before and he was town. There are scum on his wagon. There are scum on Whiskers and Flubbers wagons. Town is making it easy for scum to hide by pushing bad wagons.

Why do you think both are town? You dont think the flub’s lynch resistance from yday was odd?

Be more specific. I think both are town because of the lack of reasoning on both lynches, the scumminess of people on their wagons, that they came up day 1 when there are many mislynches and the lack of consensus on lynches as if scum is trying to split up the town.

You are correct about the lack of consensus, its just curious that you see it implies a town vs town over scum vs town. Do you think thats its fairly weak to individually read two players just because of their wagon composition? You are correct that easywagon that form itself d1 is more pften than not a town, but its not at all what happened especially concerning flub. Flub had like 4 votes along with rah’s (a conf clear) while quick had no votes and then the wagon formed pretty f quickly, thats not more two wagons forming and splitting up, its the basis of a counterwagon 2mill. After quick was voted, whisker’s wagon got killed and everyone voting there moved to quick, many people justified and some overjustified their votes and they all voted with their scumread whiskers. Basically if i remember correctly the people from whisk wagon were roughly the se on quick, not on flub. People like bee and nero who flipflopped between both has actual reasons (nero’s sucked tho) some didnt like gerry who hoped at the end.

If anything, thats is clear to me it felt like a town vs scum

[Flubbernugget]

I thought counter wagon meant wagon scum create to get heat off of their buddy, not just the-only-other-plausible-vote.

That's my point. If I'm a counterwagon to quick, that means scum were trying to get me lynched to prevent a quick lynch, but quick was town so (???)

[TwoInAMillion]

Of course it's weak. There is barely any hard info at this point. But my "weak" analysis is better than all the people on quick's wagon who voted off town, and cabd, who shot towndunk. Nothing in your analysis convinces me that whiskers and flub are scum.

[Nero Cain]

I see Joey is still being a baby about things.

[Joey_]

I reread i mosremembered a few things, anyway

[Joey_]

Of course it's weak. There is barely any hard info at this point. But my "weak" analysis is better than all the people on quick's wagon who voted off town, and cabd, who shot towndunk. Nothing in your analysis convinces me that whiskers and flub are scum.

Games arent decided by hard infos most of the time, you need more than one scumread

[Joey_]

Anyway like i said i reread the vote logs. If whiskers is scum my other reads are prob wrong, if hes town im most likely correct. I read uc’s votes and yea it might be a mefia

[Nero Cain]

If Whiskers is scum what do your reads look like?

[Joey_]

Homestly, id be unsure on math, flub/axe will prob lean town

[TwoInAMillion]

Of course it's weak. There is barely any hard info at this point. But my "weak" analysis is better than all the people on quick's wagon who voted off town, and cabd, who shot towndunk. Nothing in your analysis convinces me that whiskers and flub are scum.

Games arent decided by hard infos most of the time, you need more than one scumread

This is far from true. Most games are decided on hard information.

[Joey_]

Actually more flub than axe, axe could be mafia with both flub or whiskers. I also think that maybe whisk and flub can be mefias, i fail to find the 4th mefia

[Joey_]

Of course it's weak. There is barely any hard info at this point. But my "weak" analysis is better than all the people on quick's wagon who voted off town, and cabd, who shot towndunk. Nothing in your analysis convinces me that whiskers and flub are scum.

Games arent decided by hard infos most of the time, you need more than one scumread

This is far from true. Most games are decided on hard information.

Hm you played 4 games, i played thousands on em and at least 25 here so ill dismiss your opinion

[TwoInAMillion]

Of course it's weak. There is barely any hard info at this point. But my "weak" analysis is better than all the people on quick's wagon who voted off town, and cabd, who shot towndunk. Nothing in your analysis convinces me that whiskers and flub are scum.

Games arent decided by hard infos most of the time, you need more than one scumread

This is far from true. Most games are decided on hard information.

Hm you played 4 games, i played thousands on em and at least 25 here so ill dismiss your opinion

Appeal to authority. Why not ask other people instead of just deciding yourself? This is something that scum would say to dismiss good night actions.

[Joey_]

Yes so what, doesnt mean the authority isnt correct. The fallacy is assuming the authority is correct because its the authority

[Nero Cain]

TBF, you are both right. I side with Joey more but this is a theory discussion. Stop it.

[Joey_]

How am i trying to dismiss good night actions lmao youre fucking hilarious

[gerryoat]

if we can get a UC/Lucky slot lynch going, i'd be all for that

[Nero Cain]

I have to go to work but the opening Whiskers votes are clearly scum motivated. Flubber was clearly the counter wagon to Quick, doing a VCA late tonight should also help us net another.

I mean, all of me, IaI and Axel made it clear we were scumreading Whiskers yesterday. So I don't think its necessarily scummy that we wanted someone that we were scumreading yesterday dead today. At the same time, I'm maybe a little cautious towards IaI since we are sooooooooo in synch and I'm maybe a little worried that he's scum shadowing me. Axe is kinda active lurking a little.

This is the same kind of shallow mechanical discussion that I got onto Flub a little bit for. I think its theoretically possible that Quick/Flub were competing town wagons and Quick over taking Flubb doesn't necessarily mean Flubb is scum.

Why did you even think Flubb was scum yesterday?

[Joey_]

My main reason was heavy ass poe into rxn check into slight meta into overall scummy ass play when pressirized. Town dynamic imo says it was t va s yday too

[Joey_]

Btw just realised you werent asking me soz

[Nero Cain]

You have two very similar questions in the thread to two people. I am happy to answer right now. But would you prefer to hear one or other answer first?

I think it prob makes the most sense for Whiskers to go first as she was the one that argued that we'd have more info on Nauci and I'm interested in her analysis but I'd then like to hear from you.

[Flubbernugget]

Nero is right that it's common for wagons to run from town to town

But whiskers just isn't getting lynched despite not a lot of voices being against it

[Rhah]

VOTE: Lucky2u

[Nero Cain]

Nero is right that it's common for wagons to run from town to town

Just to clarify, I'm not saying you are town b/c of it though.

[pienyan]

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