i find myself agreeing with cheeky here. this entire interaction just seems to me like zito being intentionally obtuse when it comes to chip's attempts to have a conversation, and then scumreading chip for getting frustrated. there's been an obvious uptick in the frequency of chip's posts and you can call it scum panicing, but i think it's more likely that chip is actually just getting frustrated.
Chip Butty wrote:I think, given recent revelations, PZ is null or null town for now. I feel better now i don't have to resolve what looked like a big gap in townness between SS and PZ.
This weirds me out. I still can't follow the read progressions. He was so insistent that Zito give his reasoning and UC Voyager give a catch-up. Then his thoughts about UCV's catch-up now that it's happened and not gone in his favor are basically "ehh whatever....and oh yeah he should explain his vote on me also". I don't like that he's now moved the player he's voting to null Town. We're back to where we started with him generally complaining about having no scum reads and him continuing to do nothing about it. I like my vote.
In post 592, Chip Butty wrote:I'm familiar with UCV's play. He's sometimes impulsive and logic isn't his forte. I thought giving 12 hours notice of intent was restrained by his standards.
Like, in what world are you holding out on pursuing scumreads so that you can hear from a player who you have this kind of meta opinion on?
Wait. Was that saying I'm not "logical" enough to give 12 hours notice? You think if I didn't do that ever. Someone would have told me that is what you do.
you know, thinking about it it's not actually that big of a deal. well, it's kind of a big deal, but not as much as in a regular game. it's not like anybody is going to die tonight and chip will still be around to talk and scumhunt assuming that he's town, it's just that he won't have a vote.
In post 280, Cabd wrote:For the record, I am reserving my real reads list until everyone else has posted theirs, i don't want "sheep the confotown's reads" being a thing.
[Cabd]
[SS, CT, NSG]
[Micc
[Hopkirk]
[]
*Not enough input: BTD6, Kawso
So here is the readlist which broke Micc's s heart by relegating him to null. Time for an update.
[Cabd]
[CT, Micc, BTD]
[NSG]
[Hopkirk, PZ]
[]
UCV: not enough input.
Micc gets re-promoted because of recent interplay with PZ and Hopkirk (unlikely to be scum with either) but also because all that stuff about him being good by virtue of being a setup designer is off the table now. Bustling town i think.
BTD has joined the game. Seems cautious / non-committal but that's okay for now. Overall, don't really like the wagon he had on him earlier.
Ive put NSG as null, a demotion, but this might be a bit harsh. Mainly to do with interactions with CT. Will get around to that when i have time.
Hopkirk rating is provisional, as i need to do an updated ISO there.
The only reason PZ is not on the bottom tier is I'm waiting to see if Cabd can clear up 518 for me.
These reads don't even make sense. Micc is town because I'm scum and he can't be my partner, but I'm 'provisional' rather than scum like the Micc read would suggest. If you believe part 1 then part 2 makes me scum. You also said you were doing that ISO about a week ago.
In post 593, Chip Butty wrote:@PZ: Okay that's fine, i think. A couple of people here seem to know you, so i guess you're not gonna lie about your playstyle / philosophy. That would seem to explain why nobody but me had a problem with this low info approach of your
I have to say i feel a bit like policy lynching you though, sinply because when you roll scum this low info thing would be great for skating through the first few days..
If you'd policy lynch for 'that' then how would you ever get any real lynching done.
