Beneath The Mask [Endgame]

[Maki and Kaito]

I've been in the real world this whole time.

Didn't you claim to be in the metaverse on day 1?

[Varsoon]

I claimed that mostly to throw people off my track
I've been in the real world the whole time.

[RationalNumbers]

I'm so fucking confused.

VOTE: Unvote

Talking with Drixx and catching up.

~~Math

[RationalNumbers]

I claimed that mostly to throw people off my track
I've been in the real world the whole time.

The whole time?

~~Math

[RationalNumbers]

Oh right the whole time.

~~Math

[Purple Nurple]

I've read the stuff since daystart though I basically need to read ALL of D2 and over half of D1 still.

I'll get back in touch with my partner soon enough, but basically.
Varsoon is town.
Creature is town.

I'll go check to see who sticks out the most as scum, but topping the charts of suspicion off the top of my head would be RationalNumbers/Brian Skies/Lil Uzi Vert, will cross-reference with our notes in a sec.

[Purple Nurple]

Worth potentially noting from our hydra pt though:

Given a five-scum model, unless you believe the scumteam to be

Kise-Mulch-RationalNumbers-PenguinPower-Smocaine

, you simply MUST conclude that on

at least

one day,

at least

one scum bussed. Likely heavily.

At some point, I'd recommend an ACTUAL-cop and/or vig and/or lynch on both of RationalNumbers/Smocaine just to dispel this possibility. 'Cause lol if scum tried to save scum both days and utterly and completely failed at it. (I specified the highly-improbable nature of the theory specifically because there's no counterwagon to the scum wagon on both days.)

I should say I still consider it

unlikely

that the above would be the scumteam. But we should at some point get some confirmation that it isn't the scumteam.

[Purple Nurple]

Notes I had from last night from the simple stuff:
1-2 scum in LUV/Wheme/Brian/Maki (trusting my partner to narrow it down further than that);
1-2 scum in Chikoritas/Chara(doubtful)/PenguinPower/Smocaine/Ramicus/chesskid/RationalNumbers(yes)

2-3 scum in Chara(doubtful)/Brian/Chikoritas/Ramicus/chesskid;
1-2 scum in WhemeStar/PenguinPower/Maki/LUV/Smocaine/RationalNumbers(yes)

Of course this was on a base assumption scum did in fact at least slightly bus one or both days (most likely both), because of a simple observation: the lack of counterwagon on both scum lynches. If scum really were fighting for their member to survive (i.e., not bussing), then you'd expect them to not be scattered about everywhere; you'd expect one or two clear decisive counterwagons which I didn't see evidence of.

What I'd want now: a cop/lynch/vig on Smocaine/Rational Numbers to get rid of the possibility of no-scum-bussing, to confirm that scum did in fact bus. And with the knowledge of scum having bussed at some point in the game, narrow it down further than that.

[Purple Nurple]

chesskid3
Smocaine
Lil Uzi Vert
ChikoritasInAction

In this list I'd lynch Smocaine expecting it to hit town but allowing it to dispel any possibility of all-scum-off-both-lynches.
In this list I'd lynch LUV, expecting it to hit scum.

[Brian Skies]

PenguinPower is confirmed and unlynchable scum.

[Purple Nurple]

VOTE: Creature

For instance, this is a scumclaim because LUV of all people should be intimately familiar with why Creature's town this game.

[WhemeStar]

Creature who you targeting tonight

[Purple Nurple]

PenguinPower is confirmed and unlynchable scum.

Yes. I know that. Quite aware. Where did I imply otherwise? In my notes which were made before D3 began?

[Brian Skies]

PenguinPower is confirmed and unlynchable scum.

Yes. I know that. Quite aware. Where did I imply otherwise? In my notes which were made before D3 began?

I wasn't given any indication that you did know and wanted to see if you'd adjust your notes.

[ChikoritasInAction]

VOTE: Varsoon
Hold on. I think this is important. Please don't quicklynch before I figure out if I am bring incredibly stupid or not.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Varsoon
Hold on. I think this is important. Please don't quicklynch before I figure out if I am bring incredibly stupid or not.

I think your the only one voting him

[Purple Nurple]

I wasn't given any indication that you did know and wanted to see if you'd adjust your notes.

You were given indication:

I've read the stuff since daystart though I basically need to read ALL of D2 and over half of D1 still.

PenguinPower being confscum is part of the content since daystart.

[ChikoritasInAction]

VOTE: Varsoon
Hold on. I think this is important. Please don't quicklynch before I figure out if I am bring incredibly stupid or not.

I think your the only one voting him

I wasn't referring specifically to Varsoon.

[Brian Skies]

I wasn't given any indication that you did know and wanted to see if you'd adjust your notes.

You were given indication:

I've read the stuff since daystart though I basically need to read ALL of D2 and over half of D1 still.

PenguinPower being confscum is part of the content since daystart.

Yes, but none of the notes you fed to me indicated you were taking it into account.

Are we going to argue about this or are you just going to accept that it's irrelevant and move on?

[RationalNumbers]

Okay it's time to bring your game long hard on for us to an end Eddie. Mulch flipped as a Phantom Thief and obviously was informed that Dave was the MC. For you to even consider us to be scum with Varsoon confirming we're a Phantom Thief, you have to believe that multiple Phantom Thieves would be scum and informed. Go back and look at how I responded to Mulch doing what he did. You have to be confbiased worse than anyone I've ever seen in any game ever to conclude we're scum with the information which is public knowledge. The edge case would be if you wanted to say that Varsoon and us are scum together, but there will be much (friendly) teasing directed your way after the game if you try to argue that.

The reason for that edge case being so improbable as to border on impossible

should

be obvious. I'm pretty certain you either know what I'm talking about or will upon getting fully caught up.

Now ... I've done a lot of re-reading on your slot. Before I come to a conclusion, I need to figure out what to make of your intervention on day one that kept Mulch from being speedily power lynched after he threw his fake tantrum. (Obviously my prior assumption that he was severely screwing up the game was incorrect, given that him flipping scum means scum were informed of who was the MC from the start of the game. There are other implications obviously, but just admitting my assumption was bad on that).

[Purple Nurple]

I don't think there's another godfather, so if Varsoon is claiming an inno on you you're probably town.

Why is Penguin conf scum? Did I miss something?

Also, if you look in my iso, I think my interactions with Mulch makes it pretty damn clear I never defended his lynch, I defended his policy lynch from you people bullying him. I even entered d2 with him as my lynch of choice.

I haven't had a game long hard on for you, despite what you may think. I haven't pushed for your lynch since early-middle d1 at the latest, and even then I was more defending myself. There is a reason for that but we shouldn't go into that.

I need to do another reads thing. Hmph.

[Purple Nurple]

I don't think there's another godfather, so if Varsoon is claiming an inno on you you're probably town.

Why is Penguin conf scum? Did I miss something?

Also, if you look in my iso, I think my interactions with Mulch makes it pretty damn clear I never defended his lynch, I defended his policy lynch from you people bullying him. I even entered d2 with him as my lynch of choice.

I haven't had a game long hard on for you, despite what you may think. I haven't pushed for your lynch since early-middle d1 at the latest, and even then I was more defending myself. There is a reason for that but we shouldn't go into that.

I need to do another reads thing. Hmph.

-Only post today from Eddie other than this one.

[Maki and Kaito]

Did everyone read the crier message? Whemestar, why did you think varsoon was the crier when he was a claimed phantom thief while the crier claimed not phantom thief? Who did you think was lying?

[Purple Nurple]

Reck kill interests me.

[Maki and Kaito]

There's no inno on anyone