Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

Tchill13 · Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:59 am

In post 1731, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1571, Havo wrote:
In post 1570, Boonskiies wrote:Tchill’s been semi buddying Havo indirectly all game, so there’s a chance Havo might not be scum. I’d probably through Status in there in that case, due to not having a lot of info on him/POE, with a chance of it being Schadd. But I wouldn’t look into them until a little after. Havo could still just be saying nope because I got one of the three wrong, though.
Yeah bro u got me wrong.

I think LUV / Chill / TSQ is more like it.
LUV/havo seems like a real possibilty now. I'm a believer it's much easier to throw one scum partner in your scum pool lists than it is to distance in other ways.

In post 1732, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1545, Havo wrote:
In post 1543, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1541, Havo wrote:
In post 1539, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1537, Havo wrote:
In post 1534, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Lalendra is Town.
What results did you get from your nite action? Specifically.
Why does it matter?
Because I'm trying to solve the damn game.

Did you get "No Result"?

Why would I get any result if I am Vig?
I've played about 8 or so games here. I've been VT in every one but 1 that I can remember. IDK what results are common but it appears that this site doesn't give jack shit hardly on results at all. Makes it predawn hard to figure out what has happened.

I'm pretty sure you were RB'd.

I'm pretty sure that either LUV, Schadd or Chill is scum. Because of who you said you were gonna shoot.

In post 1571, Havo wrote:
In post 1570, Boonskiies wrote:Tchill’s been semi buddying Havo indirectly all game, so there’s a chance Havo might not be scum. I’d probably through Status in there in that case, due to not having a lot of info on him/POE, with a chance of it being Schadd. But I wouldn’t look into them until a little after. Havo could still just be saying nope because I got one of the three wrong, though.
Yeah bro u got me wrong.

I think LUV / Chill / TSQ is more like it.
Why is schadd town and TSQ scum?

Havo I don't think that berating boon will help here much after the 1v1 with LQ. Any responses to these posts?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:53 am

There’s no slip, Lalendra.

Boon is claiming to be a vanilla cop so the possible outcomes for why he didn’t get killed are:

He was targeted by a doctor
He was targeted by a jail keeper
He’s bulletproof
LQ was role blocked

We can obviously rule out the first two. There could be another doctor but I find that unlikely here especially with Tacos flipping 2-shot. It applies that Lily and whoever reviewed this didn’t want a full doctor in the first place so the chances of their being 2 of them is practically zero.

I explained why there possibly could be no role blocker in the game. I shared two games that are even on my Wiki in which I seen traitor given the bulletproof modifier. LQ was in even one of them. I decided to dig because I could be wrong on Boon and we could also be TvT. It turns out that in Minis, it’s very rare for a traitor to be bulletproof. In fact, it only has happened 1 time. Regular scum have been given the bulletproof modifier a grand total of 6 times! So I was extremely wrong but that explains where Boon is coming from where he states he’s seen it given to scum many times.

So you see, if you’re town here, it’s a simple misunderstanding. My experiences led me to believe that he could be traitor, his led him to assume I’m reaching.

I think I’m at L-1 though so I’m going to claim. I am a

town watcher enabler

.

schadd_ · Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:09 am

lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:03 am

In post 1751, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:There’s no slip, Lalendra.

Boon is claiming to be a vanilla cop so the possible outcomes for why he didn’t get killed are:

He was targeted by a doctor
He was targeted by a jail keeper
He’s bulletproof
LQ was role blocked

We can obviously rule out the first two. There could be another doctor but I find that unlikely here especially with Tacos flipping 2-shot. It applies that Lily and whoever reviewed this didn’t want a full doctor in the first place so the chances of their being 2 of them is practically zero.

I explained why there possibly could be no role blocker in the game. I shared two games that are even on my Wiki in which I seen traitor given the bulletproof modifier. LQ was in even one of them. I decided to dig because I could be wrong on Boon and we could also be TvT. It turns out that in Minis, it’s very rare for a traitor to be bulletproof. In fact, it only has happened 1 time. Regular scum have been given the bulletproof modifier a grand total of 6 times! So I was extremely wrong but that explains where Boon is coming from where he states he’s seen it given to scum many times.

So you see, if you’re town here, it’s a simple misunderstanding. My experiences led me to believe that he could be traitor, his led him to assume I’m reaching.

I think I’m at L-1 though so I’m going to claim. I am a
town watcher enabler
.

Uzi, how do you explain that there was no NK last night?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:14 am

I can’t explain it.

I don’t see scum choosing to no kill so whoever scum shot at is either bulletproof, commuter, protected by a doctor, or targeted by a rilestopper. Or whoever did the kill was jail kept. Ton of possibilities.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:15 am

In post 1754, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can’t explain it.

I don’t see scum choosing to no kill so whoever scum shot at is either bulletproof, commuter, protected by a doctor, or targeted by a rolestopper. Or whoever did the kill was jail kept. Ton of possibilities.

EBWOP.

Lalendra · Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:16 am

In post 1752, schadd_ wrote:lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game

I don't really know that it has, but if you think it has I'd like to hear how.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:35 am

In post 1754, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can’t explain it.

I don’t see scum choosing to no kill so whoever scum shot at is either bulletproof, commuter, protected by a doctor, or targeted by a rilestopper. Or whoever did the kill was jail kept. Ton of possibilities.

These are the roles we know about so far:

Doc
Miller
Vanilla Cop
Vig
Watcher enabler

Clearly your claim is the odd one out.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:40 am

Okay..

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:41 am

Or town have an unclaimed PR. Or scum have a watcher.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:44 am

I believe there to be a watcher in one of the low content players but I suspect I may be wrong on one of them.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:51 am

search.php?keywords=Miller&t=29549&sf=msgonly

Check the archives. There’s never been a vanilla cop and a miller in the same game. There’s been a cop, a role cop, and a gunsmith but never a vanilla cop. Either this setup is the first or there’s scum in Boon and tchill.

schadd_ · Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:38 am

In post 1756, Lalendra wrote:
In post 1752, schadd_ wrote:lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game
it seemed like you were getting more comfortable but i looked back and there was some stuff i missed so mostly nevermind
I don't really know that it has, but if you think it has I'd like to hear how.

In post 1761, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:search.php?keywords=Miller&t=29549&sf=msgonly

Check the archives. There’s never been a vanilla cop and a miller in the same game. There’s been a cop, a role cop, and a gunsmith but never a vanilla cop. Either this setup is the first or there’s scum in Boon and tchill.

wh. why do you suppose vanilla cop and miller are specifically unlikely to be together?

schadd_ · Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:39 am

In post 1762, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1756, Lalendra wrote:
In post 1752, schadd_ wrote:lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game
I don't really know that it has, but if you think it has I'd like to hear how.
it seemed like you were getting more comfortable but i looked back and there was some stuff i missed so mostly nevermind

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:50 am

Based on the data Schadd..

schadd_ · Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:02 am

well give us your analysis of the data. we are to suppose it's true that there's some reason in setup design that a mod would be disinclined to put both a vanilla cop and a miller in a setup and thus carcallily probably didn't do that here?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:18 am

Well the only case for is that millers are placed in games are red herrings or to be weaken the power of a cop.

In this case, it doesn’t weaken the power of the vanilla cop at all.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:19 am

In post 1766, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Well the only case for it is that millers are placed in games to either be red herrings or to weaken the power of a cop.

In this case, it doesn’t weaken the power of the vanilla cop at all.

EBWOP.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:20 am

Did you not see my posts about being paranoid of Egg?

Boonskiies · Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:21 am

In post 1766, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Well the only case for is that millers are placed in games are red herrings or to be weaken the power of a cop.

In this case, it doesn’t weaken the power of the vanilla cop at all.

To be fair, I feel my gambit on Tchill was extremely good play, and if Tchill is scum he countered me tremendously. If he’s town, he dealt with it tremendously.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:29 am

In post 1768, Boonskiies wrote:Did you not see my posts about being paranoid of Egg?

I did.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:30 am

At this point, we should probably mass claim. 5 of us are outed anyways basically.

Lalendra, Schadd, status, Havo are up.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:31 am

In post 1770, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1768, Boonskiies wrote:Did you not see my posts about being paranoid of Egg?
I did.

I think it was Havo I was responding to. Could have been you I guess.

Same reason i checked Tchill. Same reason i check Mulch in games. I need to make sure I’m not getting pocketed or it skews my reads.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:32 am

Well history suggests one of you’re scum.

This is all in response to LQ though. I know I’m town and I believe the role I enable exists in the game. I understand enablers are a bit rare but I don’t see why it doesn’t fit given the setup when we haven’t had a scum flip or a mass claim.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:34 am

Vanilla Cop and Miller can work together. Miller would play as a named townie without an action, and give a not Vanilla result to Vanilla cop. It fluffs up Vanilla cop a bit.

I also bring up the game where I had a fake Miller claim gambit and bring it up often and start to say no matter what millers should be taken care of, so I don’t know if Tchill knew that or not. If he did, I can’t see him gambiting that way.